But worst overall? C'mon now. Actually, I don't see much difference between her acting/character on this show and on Seinfeld. It's almost too similar if I was to get critical.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
IMO, she is not as good on this show as she was on Sienfeld or Watching Ellie. She seems to always have that same expression, like she is in pain. Not hard to act the with same emotions and expressions in almost every episode.

To me, neither she nor Sarah Chalke belonged in the category. I (and perhaps other people) voted for Tia Mowry by default even though I've never seen her show. Same scenario with Mischa Barton in the last category. None of the other nominees seemed so heinous that they should be there, so I picked Mischa Barton, whom I couldn't pick out of a line-up. (I would have voted for Trump or Springer in a heartbeat.)

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
But worst overall? C'mon now. Actually, I don't see much difference between her acting/character on this show and on Seinfeld. It's almost too similar if I was to get critical.

quote:

Originally posted by TV-aholic:
IMO, she is not as good on this show as she was on Sienfeld or Watching Ellie. She seems to always have that same expression, like she is in pain. Not hard to act the with same emotions and expressions in almost every episode.

Ask Marc why Sarah Chalke was a nominee because he suggested her.

I know Alec Baldwin was nominated as Best Actor in that other TV awards show today but I've seen that show - to me, I don't think there really is a lead male actor on that show - just Tina Fey as lead actress. However, next year, I guess I'll have to transfer him over to the lead category.

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Originally posted by SW:
To me, neither she nor Sarah Chalke belonged in the category. I (and perhaps other people) voted for Tia Mowry by default even though I've never seen her show. Same scenario with Mischa Barton in the last category. None of the other nominees seemed so heinous that they should be there, so I picked Mischa Barton, whom I couldn't pick out of a line-up. (I would have voted for Trump or Springer in a heartbeat.)

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I know Alec Baldwin was nominated as Best Actor in that other TV awards show today but I've seen that show - to me, I don't think there really is a lead male actor on that show - just Tina Fey as lead actress. However, next year, I guess I'll have to transfer him over to the lead category.

I wondered about that too. Is it possible that they thought he might stand a better shot at winning in the lead category?

Yes, the people who seeded this Lemon Award bake-off list really have a hate-on for MyNetworkTV.

Unfairly so. I have seen four of the six telenovellas, and they are Brechtian epic theatre compared to the monotonous, crimetime drivel of CBS.

I agree with you, xwiseguyx. Most people who disparage MNT have never watched the network, but they love to toss arrows at it for fun. All MyNetworkTV is lacking is ratings, but even that is beginning to change.

quote:

Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Show of hands, who here has even seen the performances of all of these MNTV actors and actresses nominated?

(noting a few hands raised)

Now if you exclude Bo, Conchita, Morgan and Tatum?

(noting no hands raised)


That's what I thought.

Oh, you'd be wrong, dumont - I watched Fashion House from episode one, so I know I have a right to state it as bad TV. Of course, I have to admit that the show was a delightful, guilty pleasure, but now, you have to admit that it's not Brechtian whatever - it was loaded with bad acting and that's what being "rewarded" here.

And, I've seen most of Wicked Wicked Games and enough of Desire to qualify for an opinion to include them as nominees.

If you don't like the MyNetworkTV nominees here, don't vote for them to win. Out of the 24 nods it received, I think I only voted for 2 to win. Odds are that they may not win, but you have to remember - it's the network's fault for placing such sans-quality entertainment on television in the first place.

By the way, the theme song to this year's Lemons - Chesterwhite's "Good At Being Bad" (Fashion House theme!): fitting title for the nominees here who were VERY good at being bad!

quote:

Originally posted by dumont:
Yes, the people who seeded this Lemon Award bake-off list really have a hate-on for MyNetworkTV.

Unfairly so. I have seen four of the six telenovellas, and they are Brechtian epic theatre compared to the monotonous, crimetime drivel of CBS.

I agree with you, xwiseguyx. Most people who disparage MNT have never watched the network, but they love to toss arrows at it for fun. All MyNetworkTV is lacking is ratings, but even that is beginning to change.

quote:

Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Show of hands, who here has even seen the performances of all of these MNTV actors and actresses nominated?

(noting a few hands raised)

Now if you exclude Bo, Conchita, Morgan and Tatum?

(noting no hands raised)


That's what I thought.

After the God aweful Mere'death' 3-part episode, Grey's Anatomy's nomination for Best Drama seems like a huge waste of a spot. That show really lost its way this season...I really don't see its ratings staying where they were last year for the entire 07-08 season.

Regarding Fashion House, sometimes in the midst of some of the bad acting going on, there were some decent actors that I think were wrongfully nominated. Joel Berti was actually quite good in his evil role. Mike Begovich also did a decent job (and he was wonderful in the independent movie called Hard Pill which I highly recommend). If they were on any other network, you wouldn't be mentioning their names and their only crime was being associated with this show.

On the other hand, Taylor Kinney was deserving of the nomination despite being handsome as hell.

And in the actress category, I could agree with the Mini Anden and Donna Feldman nominations, but Natalie Martinez is another one that was wrongfully thrown in and I'm sure you didn't even see her on Saints & Sinners to warrant her that nomination.

Based on what was posted, I can safely conclude that the actual performances were not taken into consideration when the nominations were posted. The awards are a great idea, but it would be nice if the performances were actually viewed objectively.

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Originally posted by Douglas:
Oh, you'd be wrong, dumont - I watched Fashion House from episode one, so I know I have a right to state it as bad TV. Of course, I have to admit that the show was a delightful, guilty pleasure, but now, you have to admit that it's not Brechtian whatever - it was loaded with bad acting and that's what being "rewarded" here.

And, I've seen most of Wicked Wicked Games and enough of Desire to qualify for an opinion to include them as nominees.

If you don't like the MyNetworkTV nominees here, don't vote for them to win. Out of the 24 nods it received, I think I only voted for 2 to win. Odds are that they may not win, but you have to remember - it's the network's fault for placing such sans-quality entertainment on television in the first place.

By the way, the theme song to this year's Lemons - Chesterwhite's "Good At Being Bad" (Fashion House theme!): fitting title for the nominees here who were VERY good at being bad!

quote:

Originally posted by dumont:
Yes, the people who seeded this Lemon Award bake-off list really have a hate-on for MyNetworkTV.

Unfairly so. I have seen four of the six telenovellas, and they are Brechtian epic theatre compared to the monotonous, crimetime drivel of CBS.

I agree with you, xwiseguyx. Most people who disparage MNT have never watched the network, but they love to toss arrows at it for fun. All MyNetworkTV is lacking is ratings, but even that is beginning to change.

quote:

Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Show of hands, who here has even seen the performances of all of these MNTV actors and actresses nominated?

(noting a few hands raised)

Now if you exclude Bo, Conchita, Morgan and Tatum?

(noting no hands raised)


That's what I thought.

After 35 Votes, the leaders are

Worst Drama - Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (11 votes)

Worst Comedy - The Winner (10 votes)

Worst Hit Show - American Idol (14 votes)

Worst New Show - The Winner (9 votes)

Worst Reality/Game Show - Armed & Famous (9 votes)

Worst Season or Series Finale - 24 (9 votes)

Worst Actor in a Drama - David Caruso, CSI: Miami (17 votes)

Worst Actor in a Comedy - Michael Rapaport, The War at Home (16 votes)

Worst Actress in a Drama - Bo Derek, Fashion House & Teri Hatcher, Desperate Housewives (8 votes each)

Worst Actress in a Comedy - Tia Mowry, The Game (17 votes)

Worst Reality/Game Show Contestant - Sanjaya Malakar, American Idol (15 votes)

Worst TV couple - Combine any one guy and any one woman on Grey's Anatomy (17 votes)

Worst Supporting Actor in a Drama - Eric Dane, Grey's Anatomy (9 votes)

Worst Supporting Actor in a Comedy - David Spade, Rules of Engagement (16 votes)

Worst Supporting Actress in a Drama - Kim Raver, The Nine & 24 (12 votes)

Worst Supporting Actress in a Comedy - Emily Rutherfurd, New Adventures of Old Christine (13 votes)

Worst Guest Star on a Comedy/Drama/Reality Show - Ashley Ferl aka "crying girl for Sanjaya", American Idol & Michael Ausiello, Scrubs (9 votes)

Lifetime Un-Achievement Award and induction into the Lemon Awards Hall of Shame - Mischa Barton, "The O.C." (19 votes)

I did take their performances into consideration and it did warrant nominations.

Also, I was objective; like I wrote before, I enjoyed Fashion House as a guilty pleasure - not being objective is not nominating the "actors" on this show. I also loved to follow Melrose Place but there too, I would have nominated just about everyone in that cast, if this forum were online at that time.

Relax, xwiseguyx - based on these early projections, none of these supporting actors and actresses will win any Lemons... Bo Derek, on the other hand, could possibly win.

quote:

Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Regarding Fashion House, sometimes in the midst of some of the bad acting going on, there were some decent actors that I think were wrongfully nominated. Joel Berti was actually quite good in his evil role. Mike Begovich also did a decent job (and he was wonderful in the independent movie called Hard Pill which I highly recommend). If they were on any other network, you wouldn't be mentioning their names and their only crime was being associated with this show.

On the other hand, Taylor Kinney was deserving of the nomination despite being handsome as hell.

And in the actress category, I could agree with the Mini Anden and Donna Feldman nominations, but Natalie Martinez is another one that was wrongfully thrown in and I'm sure you didn't even see her on Saints & Sinners to warrant her that nomination.

Based on what was posted, I can safely conclude that the actual performances were not taken into consideration when the nominations were posted. The awards are a great idea, but it would be nice if the performances were actually viewed objectively.

quote:

Originally posted by Douglas:
Oh, you'd be wrong, dumont - I watched Fashion House from episode one, so I know I have a right to state it as bad TV. Of course, I have to admit that the show was a delightful, guilty pleasure, but now, you have to admit that it's not Brechtian whatever - it was loaded with bad acting and that's what being "rewarded" here.

And, I've seen most of Wicked Wicked Games and enough of Desire to qualify for an opinion to include them as nominees.

If you don't like the MyNetworkTV nominees here, don't vote for them to win. Out of the 24 nods it received, I think I only voted for 2 to win. Odds are that they may not win, but you have to remember - it's the network's fault for placing such sans-quality entertainment on television in the first place.

By the way, the theme song to this year's Lemons - Chesterwhite's "Good At Being Bad" (Fashion House theme!): fitting title for the nominees here who were VERY good at being bad!

quote:

Originally posted by dumont:
Yes, the people who seeded this Lemon Award bake-off list really have a hate-on for MyNetworkTV.

Unfairly so. I have seen four of the six telenovellas, and they are Brechtian epic theatre compared to the monotonous, crimetime drivel of CBS.

I agree with you, xwiseguyx. Most people who disparage MNT have never watched the network, but they love to toss arrows at it for fun. All MyNetworkTV is lacking is ratings, but even that is beginning to change.

quote:

Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Show of hands, who here has even seen the performances of all of these MNTV actors and actresses nominated?

(noting a few hands raised)

Now if you exclude Bo, Conchita, Morgan and Tatum?

(noting no hands raised)


That's what I thought.

Excellent point. Another case of the academy totally not getting it.

quote:

Originally posted by mrpotato531:
After the God aweful Mere'death' 3-part episode, Grey's Anatomy's nomination for Best Drama seems like a huge waste of a spot. That show really lost its way this season...I really don't see its ratings staying where they were last year for the entire 07-08 season.

Whew! That was a long list. TV was that bad this year? I'll vote just before the deadline. I'll have to think about the choices...

You people have the worst taste in TV. All those Scrubs people as bad actors/actresses? Julia Louis Dreyfus for Worst Comedy Actress? Veronica Mars in Worst Drama? 30 Rock in Worst Comedy?

Wow. That is all I have to say.

After 52 votes, the top 2 vote-getters in each category are:

Worst Drama
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (NBC) 15 votes
What About Brian (ABC) 7 votes

Worst Comedy
(tie) According to Jim (ABC) 11 votes
(tie) The Winner (FOX) 11 votes

Worst Hit Show
American Idol (FOX) 21 votes
Grey's Anatomy (CBS) 15 votes

Worst New Show
(tie) Six Degrees (ABC) 9 votes
(tie) The Winner (FOX) 9 votes

Worst Reality/Game Show
Armed & Famous (CBS) 12 votes
Great American Dream Vote (ABC) 10 votes

Worst Season or Series Finale
24 (FOX) 14 votes
Veronica Mars (CW) 9 votes

Worst Actor in a Drama
David Caruso, CSI: Miami (CBS) 22 votes
Isaiah Washington, Grey's Anatomy (ABC) and during post-Golden Globes press conference 21 votes

Worst Actor in a Comedy
Jim Belushi, According to Jim (ABC) 23 votes
Michael Rapaport, The War at Home (FOX) 22 votes

Worst Actress in a Drama
Bo Derek, Fashion House (MNT) 12 votes
Teri Hatcher, Desperate Housewives (ABC) 11 votes

Worst Actress in a Comedy
Tia Mowry, The Game (CW) 22 votes
(tie) Sarah Chalke, Scrubs (NBC) 15 votes
(tie) Julia Louis Dreyfus, New Adventures of Old Christine (NBC) 15 votes

Worst Reality/Game Show Host/Personality
Donald Trump, The Apprentice (NBC) 24 votes
Paula Abdul, American Idol (FOX) 12 votes

Worst Reality/Game Show Contestant
Sanjaya Malakar, American Idol (FOX) 22 votes
James "Rocky" Reid, Survivor Fiji (CBS) 8 votes

Worst TV couple
(tie) Combine any one guy and any one woman on Grey's Anatomy (ABC) 22 votes
(tie) Rob Mariano and Amber Brkich Mariano, Amazing Race: All Stars (CBS) 22 votes

Worst Supporting Actor in a Drama
Eric Dane, Grey's Anatomy (ABC) 12 votes
Dougray Scott, Desperate Housewives (ABC) 10 votes

Worst Supporting Actor in a Comedy
David Spade, Rules of Engagement (CBS) 22 votes
Oliver Hudson, Rules of Engagement (CBS) 10 votes

Worst Supporting Actress in a Drama
Kim Raver, The Nine (ABC) & 24 (FOX) 16 votes
Eva LaRue, CSI: Miami (CBS) 8 votes

Worst Supporting Actress in a Comedy
Emily Rutherfurd, New Adventures of Old Christine (CBS) 16 votes
Kimberly Williams, According to Jim (ABC) 11 votes

Worst Guest Star on a Comedy/Drama/Reality Show
Ashley Ferl aka "crying girl for Sanjaya", American Idol (FOX) 15 votes
Tori Spelling, Smallville (CW) 14 votes

Lifetime Un-Achievement Award and induction into the Lemon Awards Hall of Shame
Mischa Barton, "The O.C." 26 votes
William Shatner, "Star Trek," "TJ Hooker," etc. 6 votes

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quote:

Originally posted by Douglas:
Worst Hit Show
American Idol (FOX) 21 votes
CSI: Miami (CBS) 15 votes

As much as you don't like CSI: Miami, it is the more deserving Grey's Anatomy in 2nd place with 16 votes. CSI: Miami is a distant 3rd with 9 votes.