All of Us? Is the CW nuts? I think replacing What I Like About You with George Lopez is good because WILAY only aired like 86 episodes. Reba had 125 and is worthy of another daytime season. So it should just be GL @ 3 and 3:30 and Reba at 4 and 4:30, or if they want to switch it, but don't put AOU on there.
It is interesting to note that both All of Us and George Lopez are Warner Television productions.
If they replace 20th-Fox's Reba (which is probably going wide soon in syndie), together with WILAY, that will be a 2-hour Warner daytime TV block.
If WILAY is out, I'd like to see them strip Veronica Mars in daytime. I think the hour-long drama would do well in the 4-5 pm slot with the W18-34 demographic.
Originally posted by dumont: It is interesting to note that both All of Us and George Lopez are Warner Television productions.
If they replace 20th-Fox's Reba (which is probably going wide soon in syndie), together with WILAY, that will be a 2-hour Warner daytime TV block.
"Reba" off-net is going to Lifetime, a deal made before the kids shows were dropped from what was then WB in the afternoons. Not sure if 20th could sell it into syndication immediately even if they could.
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I mean, was the interest really there for a half-dozen re-runs of WILAY's 86 episodes like they're The Honeymooners or something.
Some comparative facts:
Hours Available for Stripping: VM 63h vs. WILAY 43h (46% more programming) Final Season Avg Viewers: VM 2.5m vs. WILAY 2.2m (14% more viewers) Final Season Avg A18-49: VM 1.1 vs. WILAY 1.0 (10% more young adult demo)
I don't have comparables for WILAY, but on the W18-34 demo, I doubt that WILAY's final season came anywhere near the 2.0+ level numbers that Veronica was pulling through most of the season.
It would pleasure me to see some residual cheques start flowing to the wallets of Mr. Thomas, Ms. Bell and the rest of the creative team.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: No way VM gets a daytime slot Dumont. The interest is not there for the repeats and it only has like 60 some episodes to air.
Dumont its easy to say that there's more hours available for VM when its a drama. Second, WILAY lead off Friday nights, historically low rated for the WB. VM was a massive Tuesday flop after one of the CW's best shows, Gilmore Girls. Fact of the matter is that VM repeated about a whole 5 times during the season last year and this summer's ratings tell you why. The WB actually brought WILAY back into primetime last summer for repeats because its repeat numbers were better than most of the stuff they were airing. VM repeats belong on the minimally sampled cable nets like HDNet and G4. Here's to a GLo/8 Simple Rules/Reba afternoon block.
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Originally posted by dumont: Well mushu_jj, I beg to differ.
I mean, was the interest really there for a half-dozen re-runs of WILAY's 86 episodes like they're The Honeymooners or something.
Some comparative facts:
Hours Available for Stripping: VM 63h vs. WILAY 43h (46% more programming) Final Season Avg Viewers: VM 2.5m vs. WILAY 2.2m (14% more viewers) Final Season Avg A18-49: VM 1.1 vs. WILAY 1.0 (10% more young adult demo)
I don't have comparables for WILAY, but on the W18-34 demo, I doubt that WILAY's final season came anywhere near the 2.0+ level numbers that Veronica was pulling through most of the season.
It would pleasure me to see some residual cheques start flowing to the wallets of Mr. Thomas, Ms. Bell and the rest of the creative team.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: No way VM gets a daytime slot Dumont. The interest is not there for the repeats and it only has like 60 some episodes to air.
One would think they could find something better (rated) than WILAY or VM in daytime. Is there any reason they have to air the shows at the absolute bottom of the ratings tree?
Dumont, you got three seasons, which was at least two more than the ratings warranted.
Elsewhere in pavanbadal's NATPE reporting is a posting that indicates George Lopez enters into syndication this fall, and has been sold to WPIX New York.
For the second season in a row, Reba shall unspool 10 times a week between 4-5 pm weekdays. Her ratings must be quite good to merit such a renewal. If anyone has a CW daytime ratings book, could you please post numbers. Thanks.
Elsewhere in pavanbadal's NATPE reporting is a posting that indicates George Lopez enters into syndication this fall, and has been sold to WPIX New York.
For the second season in a row, Reba shall unspool 10 times a week between 4-5 pm weekdays. Her ratings must be quite good to merit such a renewal. If anyone has a CW daytime ratings book, could you please post numbers. Thanks.
Not that this matters, but for here, at least, or if not everywhere, The CW is also adding Family Guy and Two and a Half Men to their schedule, I believe around 6:00pm, so Local Programming I guess.
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Not that this matters, but for here, at least, or if not everywhere, The CW is also adding Family Guy and Two and a Half Men to their schedule, I believe around 6:00pm, so Local Programming I guess.
Still haven't figured out the difference from Local Programming, Syndication and Network Programming?
Not that this matters, but for here, at least, or if not everywhere, The CW is also adding Family Guy and Two and a Half Men to their schedule, I believe around 6:00pm, so Local Programming I guess.
Still haven't figured out the difference from Local Programming, Syndication and Network Programming?
Oh believe me, it's not that I haven't figured it out, it's that I don't seem to care.
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TV-aholic, here's how I keep things sorted for broadcast network series. I hope you find it helpful.
There are three avenues for additional revenue streams beyond the original network primetime licensing arrangements:
1. network non-primetime encore stripping (like WILAY and Reba currently enjoy on The CW in daytime) 2. off-network cable licensing (like The Black Donnellys to HDnet, or Grey's Anatomy to Lifetime) 3. national syndication (like Family Guy, making its syndication debut this fall).
1. Network Encore Stripping For a privileged few series, the broadcast networks open up out of primetime slots to schedule encores. I remember ABC did The Practice encores on Saturdays at 11:35 pm (against SNL and MadTV) for a number of seasons. UPN ran Veronica Mars encores on Sunday afternoons, as did the WB with its Friday night comedies.
2. Off-Network Cable Licensing When a series goes off-network, there are several avenues to take. Sometimes, a off-network cable deal is cinched, and depending upon the number of episodes produced, the series encores are stripped on a broad-appeal cabler (e.g. USA) or if only a few episodes were produced, it shows up on a niche cabler (SciFi, HDnet). There are 100+ cable networks for such off-network deals.
3. National Syndication The final avenue of revenue stream (and some say the most lucrative) for the studios is national syndication, where large bundles of episodes are packaged together in a daily/weekly strip of a particular show. Sometimes, there are national syndication deals are made on a market-by-market basis, but mostly syndication deals are made with station groups. In national syndication, the distributors hold back some advertising time, which is sold on a national basis and the programs ratings are rolled up in a syndication report that gives HUT, A18-49, viewers just like for the networks.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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Not that this matters, but for here, at least, or if not everywhere, The CW is also adding Family Guy and Two and a Half Men to their schedule, I believe around 6:00pm, so Local Programming I guess.
Still haven't figured out the difference from Local Programming, Syndication and Network Programming?
