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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Obveeus, if anyone is delusional when it comes to the CW's launch, then its you. Everwood was a higher rated property the entire time it was on the air.

No, you are the delusional one. You believe that the dead frog logo had more value and blame CW for getting rid of it when WB already killed it beofre CW ever came along. You believe Everwood had more value than 7th Heaven. You believe that WB ratings were better than UPN's despite numerous offerings of proof to show otherwise.

You are a perfect example that the WB delusion was stronger on the net than anything UPN had to offer, but that delusion did not translate to TV ratings. If Everwood had not been cancelled, the CW would not be in any different a place right now.

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Originally posted by WlcmInPlainSight90210:
Has anyone heard anything about the MRC block besides the tentative titles? If this is actually going to air in September, you would think they would have announced the key players by now.

As a private corporation, they seem to have less need for the daily press releases announcing cast, writers, shoot locations, etc... I also doubt that they will launch their Sunday programming with the rest of the CW Fall schedule. Who knows, given the late start they got, they may not actually start their shows until November sweeps.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Obveeus, if anyone is delusional when it comes to the CW's launch, then its you. Everwood was a higher rated property the entire time it was on the air.

No, you are the delusional one. You believe that the dead frog logo had more value and blame CW for getting rid of it when WB already killed it beofre CW ever came along. You believe Everwood had more value than 7th Heaven. You believe that WB ratings were better than UPN's despite numerous offerings of proof to show otherwise.

You are a perfect example that the WB delusion was stronger on the net than anything UPN had to offer, but that delusion did not translate to TV ratings. If Everwood had not been cancelled, the CW would not be in any different a place right now.

1. I never said anything of the sort about the Frog.
2. Everwood had as much value as that final season of 7th Heaven, perhaps more because it could've lasted more than one season and it would be as strong if not stronger than delusional hits like Gossip Girl.
3. I never mentioned anything about UPN in my post.
4. The CW would not be in better shape overall today with Everwood, but they would have one less timeslot that needed to be filled and perhaps would've had something to pair with Life is Wild, which of all the new Cdub shows this past fall, had the best shot at bringing in the wide skewing audiences that they need (not the minuscule audience they are targeting now).

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
1. I never said anything of the sort about the Frog.
3. I never mentioned anything about UPN in my post.

You have made more than one post here over the last year+. Your misguided belief that WB had a superior product that rated better is well documented.

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4. The CW would not be in better shape overall today with Everwood, but they would have one less timeslot that needed to be filled and perhaps would've had something to pair with Life is Wild, which of all the new Cdub shows this past fall, had the best shot at bringing in the wide skewing audiences that they need (not the minuscule audience they are targeting now).

Of all of CWs Fall programming, Life is Wild was the show least likely to become a hit.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
1. I never said anything of the sort about the Frog.
3. I never mentioned anything about UPN in my post.

You have made more than one post here over the last year+. Your misguided belief that WB had a superior product that rated better is well documented.

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4. The CW would not be in better shape overall today with Everwood, but they would have one less timeslot that needed to be filled and perhaps would've had something to pair with Life is Wild, which of all the new Cdub shows this past fall, had the best shot at bringing in the wide skewing audiences that they need (not the minuscule audience they are targeting now).

Of all of CWs Fall programming, Life is Wild was the show least likely to become a hit.

I'm not the only one to have made the claim the WB was superior to UPN in many aspects (advertisers have made this known as well in articles posted here before), but I have agreed with you that UPN's ratings in many seasons were very close or slightly higher than the WB's (mostly thanks to a few major hits like Smackdown- ya know the show that you claim is worthless, and Top Model). As for Michigan J. Frog, I don't want him to come back to the CW (who wants something to fun to be ruined by Dopestroff ). That was the WB's mistake. As for Life is Wild, much like 7th Heaven, which was perhaps the most successful series to ever launch between both the WB and UPN, the series could've had the widest skewing audiences and perhaps brought in some of those older viewers the CW needs to survive. I didn't say it would be the biggest hit, but it had the potential to draw the widest skewing audiences. Since Everwood wasn't available all season, I was always in favor of pairing it with Everybody Hates Chris and Aliens in America on Mondays last fall and giving Sundays over to B&tG and Supernatural. GG and OTH on Tuesdays. The Game and Girlfriends after Top Model and Smallville and Reaper on Thursdays. It was clear though from the start that the CW was just putting Life is Wild out there to try to appease the family friendly audiences they had all but abandoned and certainly didn't care to target. If they did want Life is Wild to succeed, they wouldn't have put it after Online Nation (which everyone knew would be a disaster).

Here's a few articles on the CW. One of them is just Nikki Finke, who's knows a lot of these people, telling it like it is. The other is from John Consoli on how Warner Brothers is ticked and that's why theWB.com will return this fall.
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/86910193/m/220109011
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-cw-sked/