Does anybody know if Veronica Mars is going to be syndicated in the US? I know that it is in Canada and I think in the UK, but what about the rest of us? It sadly never reached the magic 100, but other shows have been syndicated with less. Summerland is on The N and Roswell was on the Scifi channel. Any chance the Warner owned TNT will pick it up or the coming soon reserection of the WB online will show episodes?
I'm thinking the WB online is where you'll be able to see the eps. The show just doesn't have enough of an audience, regardless of how well it did with women 18-34 (a very tiny demo in the run of things) to warrant syndication, especially on TNT. Maybe the N will pick it up, but since they haven't so far, I'm guessing no one will.
I'm a huge fan of the show, but I think most of the people who would watch it probably already own the entire series on DVD, so there really would be no point in syndication. They should put it up online though.
ABC Family would be my vote. They already air tons on old WB programs; Gilmore Girls, Everwood, 7th Heaven, ect. I'm sure Veronica Mars could find a place in the rotation before their original series like Kyle XY or Greek.
TNT could too, VM especially would go great along side The Closer and Saving Grace. It may not have had the ratings but it had the quality and the fans to back it.
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Originally posted by XLR8: TNT could too, VM especially would go great along side The Closer and Saving Grace. It may not have had the ratings but it had the quality and the fans to back it.
Oh yes, I'm sure TNT would be more than happy to just add a hole to their schedule. Sorry, but fringe nets like G4 and Oxygen are the more likely homes for this failure.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Oh yes, I'm sure TNT would be more than happy to just add a hole to their schedule. Sorry, but fringe nets like G4 and Oxygen are the more likely homes for this failure.
That seems a bit mean spirited. I think that Veronica Mars could pull in modest numbers in syndicated cable repeats and it could fit into several networks.
Lifetime - It's got Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Medium, so a show whose leading character is a teen girl detective could easily fit in
FX - It's got Buffy repeats and some of the story lines (rape, murder, ect) could be an easy transition into repeats of their edgier stuff like Nip/Tuck or the Shield.
TNT - It's got reruns of Charmed, Angel, Alias, and I think it's Warner owned, so go Veronica!
The N - They've got Summerland & Dawson's Creek and while Veronica Mars isn't a relationship teen drama, it could fit in
ABC Family - The show has won and been nominated for several Family Television awards and with Everwood & Gilmore Girls there, Veronica would fit in of being another critically acclaimed drama being repeated
Veronica Mars will be on TheWB.com's streaming video website. Chances are if it does well there, then it might get a physical network to air on in the US.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Oh yes, I'm sure TNT would be more than happy to just add a hole to their schedule. Sorry, but fringe nets like G4 and Oxygen are the more likely homes for this failure.
That seems a bit mean spirited. I think that Veronica Mars could pull in modest numbers in syndicated cable repeats and it could fit into several networks.
Lifetime - It's got Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, Medium, so a show whose leading character is a teen girl detective could easily fit in
FX - It's got Buffy repeats and some of the story lines (rape, murder, ect) could be an easy transition into repeats of their edgier stuff like Nip/Tuck or the Shield.
TNT - It's got reruns of Charmed, Angel, Alias, and I think it's Warner owned, so go Veronica!
The N - They've got Summerland & Dawson's Creek and while Veronica Mars isn't a relationship teen drama, it could fit in
ABC Family - The show has won and been nominated for several Family Television awards and with Everwood & Gilmore Girls there, Veronica would fit in of being another critically acclaimed drama being repeated
The N and ABC Family are the only real options here. Lifetime skews much older than VM's heavy female 18-34 viewership. TNT I'm guessing skews much too male, even with Charmed, Angel, and Alias. FX airs Buffy repeats yet? And since when has VM been edgy? Its ratings stunk on UPN/theCW (not talking quality- strictly ratings) and the repeats tended to do even worse. Plus it only has around 64 episodes or so to syndicate. That's not even three months worth.
Originally posted by Jonathan: Veronica Mars will be on TheWB.com's streaming video website. Chances are if it does well there, then it might get a physical network to air on in the US.
The web is where VM and her small but devoted audience can follow her.
They hadn't been for 26 days until you posted. Now they're gonna come back and start again. Thanks for that.
Syndicated reruns would draw a small percentage of what was already a small audience. And no, a new audience wouldn't magically grow out of nowhere, like what happened with Star Trek reruns in the '70s when people had five or six channels. TV is much different now.
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Originally posted by lambertman: They hadn't been for 26 days until you posted. Now they're gonna come back and start again. Thanks for that.
Syndicated reruns would draw a small percentage of what was already a small audience. And no, a new audience wouldn't magically grow out of nowhere, like what happened with Star Trek reruns in the '70s when people had five or six channels. TV is much different now.
You seem to believe that if a low rated series hits syndication they will never see the light of promotion again. That is highly incorrect, if anything they are better promoted in syndication. If the syndicating net execs were smart, they would place it on a known net [Lifetime, FX, TNT, USA] and behind reruns of their original series or a well rerunning series, it should do well if not better. It is all about promote, placement, and appeal. VM has those, UPN just never used it. Also, UPN was a net hardly anyone watch so it really was not the net to launch any cult show.
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Originally posted by lambertman: They hadn't been for 26 days until you posted. Now they're gonna come back and start again. Thanks for that.
Syndicated reruns would draw a small percentage of what was already a small audience. And no, a new audience wouldn't magically grow out of nowhere, like what happened with Star Trek reruns in the '70s when people had five or six channels. TV is much different now.
You seem to believe that if a low rated series hits syndication they will never see the light of promotion again. That is highly incorrect, if anything they are better promoted in syndication. If the syndicating net execs were smart, they would place it on a known net [Lifetime, FX, TNT, USA] and behind reruns of their original series or a well rerunning series, it should do well if not better. It is all about promote, placement, and appeal. VM has those, UPN just never used it. Also, UPN was a net hardly anyone watch so it really was not the net to launch any cult show.
Here's the problem with all of this. Yes, syndication does actually open up new audiences to some shows. Programs like George Lopez that have a significant audience base to them and get on decent cable channels like Nick at Nite can find new viewers but VM repeated horribly, would be hard to syndicate given its serialized nature (it would basically be playing the eps in order again and again and again), and they would have a very hard time getting a decent cable net like TNT to place it in a decent timeslot besides maybe 5am. VM had oodles of chances to find viewers in first run. Each time it did worse. It even aired on CBS its first summer. You know, America's Most Watched Network.
P.S. Where exactly would a teen sleuth series fit into the cable nets you listed? The best it would fit into is the N or perhaps ABC Family and neither are big hit channels.
Originally posted by lambertman: They hadn't been for 26 days until you posted. Now they're gonna come back and start again. Thanks for that.
Syndicated reruns would draw a small percentage of what was already a small audience. And no, a new audience wouldn't magically grow out of nowhere, like what happened with Star Trek reruns in the '70s when people had five or six channels. TV is much different now.
You seem to believe that if a low rated series hits syndication they will never see the light of promotion again. That is highly incorrect, if anything they are better promoted in syndication. If the syndicating net execs were smart, they would place it on a known net [Lifetime, FX, TNT, USA] and behind reruns of their original series or a well rerunning series, it should do well if not better. It is all about promote, placement, and appeal. VM has those, UPN just never used it. Also, UPN was a net hardly anyone watch so it really was not the net to launch any cult show.
Here's the problem with all of this. Yes, syndication does actually open up new audiences to some shows. Programs like George Lopez that have a significant audience base to them and get on decent cable channels like Nick at Nite can find new viewers but VM repeated horribly, would be hard to syndicate given its serialized nature (it would basically be playing the eps in order again and again and again), and they would have a very hard time getting a decent cable net like TNT to place it in a decent timeslot besides maybe 5am. VM had oodles of chances to find viewers in first run. Each time it did worse. It even aired on CBS its first summer. You know, America's Most Watched Network.
P.S. Where exactly would a teen sleuth series fit into the cable nets you listed? The best it would fit into is the N or perhaps ABC Family and neither are big hit channels.
As I said, VM can fit in many genres, either it be crime/mystery, teen, or even a mixed hearted dramedy.
It could easily follow on TNT, The Closer, and or Saving Grace FX, Damages, and or Dirt USA, Monk, Psych, Burn Notice or even now In Plain Sight
FX and TNT might be more graphic and full of fowl language toned programs but if the a series material is well written and acted, then it would do no worse. You forget that on Cable as long as you can maintain a 3mil you are a money casher especially for reruns. They know reruns are not going to be getting 6/7mil.
One problem I found with the CW and UPN was that it was just creating shows targeting the demos, and yet they wonder why they could not create a show with mass appeal. VM, was a show that had mass appeal but was just aired on the wrong network at the wrong time, which I should say hardly had any viewers to begin with. Reruns on CBS in the summer, I would hardly even call that promotion, I did not even see any promote for it than hearing about it from fans a year later.
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