FOX, like NBC, used most of their original programming DURING the strike and then chose late restarts for their other shows.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
FOX is being held up almost entirely by one show: American Idol. You know there is a problem when the Saturday programming is in the top half of the weekly network ratings.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
It isn't like NASCAR did really well, it is just that FOX did really poorly this week (outside of the couple of shows up top). 7.8 million viewers should not be on the top end of the weekly list for one of the 'big 3&1/2' networks.

BUT, the NASCAR race did place in the top 40 shows (#38) from all 6 networks.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
FOX, like NBC, used most of their original programming DURING the strike and then chose late restarts for their other shows

What does that have to do with May sweeps? Are you suggesting that FOX still hasn't restarted their regular schedule? What 'late restarts' are still to come?

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
It isn't like NASCAR did really well, it is just that FOX did really poorly this week (outside of the couple of shows up top). 7.8 million viewers should not be on the top end of the weekly list for one of the 'big 3&1/2' networks.

BUT, the NASCAR race did place in the top 40 shows (#38) from all 6 networks.

Since I commented on the 'big 3&1/2', I'm not sure how you think adding in CW and MNTV is relevant. It doesn't change the fact that FOX is only a few shows deep and has a bunch of mediocrity on the air. Just take away American Idol and FOX loses about 1/3rd of its total viewers/demo for the entire week.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
FOX, like NBC, used most of their original programming DURING the strike and then chose late restarts for their other shows

What does that have to do with May sweeps? Are you suggesting that FOX still hasn't restarted their regular schedule? What 'late restarts' are still to come?

by late restarts, I mean at the begining of the swweps month (3 weeks ago). And they only returned 4 scripted shows plus the animated block (on a semi-regular basis).

CBS has new episodes up between the middle of March and the first week of april for all their shows. They wer up and running at full speed once the May sweeps were here. FOX and NBC were just geting started again and took a couple of weeks in to get "normal" numbers.

HOUSE is a good example. This past mondays episode is back up to normal levels. it was its 3rd episode into the restart.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
It isn't like NASCAR did really well, it is just that FOX did really poorly this week (outside of the couple of shows up top). 7.8 million viewers should not be on the top end of the weekly list for one of the 'big 3&1/2' networks.

BUT, the NASCAR race did place in the top 40 shows (#38) from all 6 networks.

Since I commented on the 'big 3&1/2', I'm not sure how you think adding in CW and MNTV is relevant. It doesn't change the fact that FOX is only a few shows deep and has a bunch of mediocrity on the air. Just take away American Idol and FOX loses about 1/3rd of its total viewers/demo for the entire week.

OK. I'll restate my post

"BUT, the NASCAR race did place in the top 40 shows (#38) from all 3.5 networks"

But seriously, 7.5 million viewers is not as bad now than it was just a couple of seasons ago.

I agree that right now, FOX is totally relying on AI & House to pull it through.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
FOX, like NBC, used most of their original programming DURING the strike and then chose late restarts for their other shows

What does that have to do with May sweeps? Are you suggesting that FOX still hasn't restarted their regular schedule? What 'late restarts' are still to come?

by late restarts, I mean at the begining of the swweps month (3 weeks ago).

I guess I don't understand how you are applying that 'late start' excuse to this discussion (which was about the most recent week's ratings).

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
FOX, like NBC, used most of their original programming DURING the strike and then chose late restarts for their other shows

What does that have to do with May sweeps? Are you suggesting that FOX still hasn't restarted their regular schedule? What 'late restarts' are still to come?

by late restarts, I mean at the begining of the swweps month (3 weeks ago).

I guess I don't understand how you are applying that 'late start' excuse to this discussion (which was about the most recent week's ratings).

I get what TV is saying. By having those weeks where Idol truly was the only thing on Fox, the network had a tougher time getting people to re-find their shows. House is down considerably year to year (Idol attributes somewhat). Bones is still doing modest. The Sunday block has taken the real hit here by the stupid strike scheduling. Fox aired new eps then repeats and so on for months. The best option would've been to air the new eps in a row in Jan./Feb./March (if needed) and then simply go into repeats. There was no real relaunch for them so many fans are just assuming they're still in repeats. Its why numbers for new eps have been virtually the same as repeats. The Friday night lineup is also a problem again.

For the Week Ending May 18, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Wed	9:00	60 min	American Idol                     24.860	9.2
FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	American Idol                     24.770	9.0
FOX	Mon	9:00	60 min	House                             15.020	5.9
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                    11.310	5.1
FOX	Mon	8:00	60 min	Bones                              9.680	3.3

FOX	Thu	8:00	60 min	Smarter Than a 5th Grader          8.420	2.2
FOX	Wed	8:30	30 min	Back to You                        7.060	2.5
FOX	Thu	9:00	60 min	Don't Forget the Lyrics            6.650	2.3
FOX	Sun	8:00	30 min	The Simpsons                       6.190	2.9
FOX	Sun	9:00	30 min	Family Guy [R]                     6.180	3.0

FOX	Wed	8:00	30 min	Til Death                          5.900	2.2
FOX	Sun	9:30	30 min	American Dad                       5.640	2.7
FOX	Sun	8:30	30 min	King of the Hill                   5.400	2.6
FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.870	1.8
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               4.810	1.7

FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               3.940	1.4
FOX	Sun	7:30	30 min	The Simpsons [R]                   3.790	1.8
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: Dodgeball                   2.980	1.2
FOX	Sun	7:00	30 min	King of the Hill [R]               2.680	1.2

For the Week Ending May 25, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Wed	9:00	120 min	American Idol                     31.660	11.4
FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	American Idol                     27.060	10.1
FOX	Mon	9:00	60 min	House                             16.360	5.8
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                    11.440	5.2
FOX	Mon	8:00	60 min	Bones                             10.300	3.4

FOX	Thu	8:00	120 min	So You Thiunk You Can Dance        8.740	3.5
FOX	Sun	7:00	360 min	NASCAR: Coca Cola 600              7.580	2.5
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               4.330	1.3
FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.210	1.4
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: Cheaper By the Dozen        3.980	1.4
FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               3.490	1.1

For the Week Ending June 1, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Thu	8:00	120 min	So You Think You Can Dance         9.560	3.6
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                     9.500	4.4
FOX	Wed	9:00	120 min	So You think You Can Dance         9.360	3.6
FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	Moment of Truth                    7.400	3.0
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               5.450	1.7

FOX	Sun	9:00	30 min	Family Guy [R]                     5.220	2.5
FOX	Mon	8:00	120 min	So You Think You Can Dance [R]     4.910	1.8
FOX	Sun	9:30	30 min	American Dad [R]                   4.600	2.3
FOX	Sun	8:00	30 min	The Simpsons [R]                   4.490	2.0
FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.380	1.5

FOX	Sun	8:30	30 min	King of ther Hill [R]              3.970	1.9
FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               3.740	1.3
FOX	Sun	7:00	60 min	Don’t Forget The Lyrics [R]        2.820	0.9
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: Little Black Book           2.490	0.9

For the Week Ending June 8, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Wed	9:00	120 min	So You think You Can Dance         9.560	3.7
FOX	Mon	9:00	60 min	House [R]                          9.440	3.0
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                     9.360	4.4
FOX	Thu	8:00	120 min	So You Think You Can Dance         9.250	3.3
FOX	Mon	8:00	60 min	Bones [R]                          6.910	1.8

FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	Moment of Truth                    6.760	2.7
FOX	Sun	9:00	30 min	Family Guy [R]                     5.150	2.5
FOX	Sun	9:30	30 min	American Dad [R]                   5.080	2.3
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               4.830	1.7
FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.480	1.7

FOX	Sun	8:00	30 min	The Simpsons [R]                   4.210	1.9
FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               3.980	1.5
FOX	Sun	8:30	30 min	King of ther Hill [R]              3.840	1.8
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: White Chicks                3.360	1.3
FOX	Sun	7:00	60 min	Don’t Forget The Lyrics [R]        2.530	1.0

For the Week Ending June 15, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Wed	9:00	120 min	So You think You Can Dance         8.910	3.4
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                     8.810	4.2
FOX	Thu	9:00	60 min	So You Think You Can Dance         8.020	2.9
FOX	Mon	9:00	60 min	House [R]                          7.970	2.7
FOX	Mon	8:00	60 min	Bones [R]                          7.490	2.2

FOX	Thu	8:00	60 min	Smarter than a 5th grader          6.250	1.8
FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	Moment of Truth	                   6.010	2.4
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               5.190	1.8
FOX	Sun	9:00	30 min	Family Guy [R]                     5.150	2.4
FOX	Sun	9:30	30 min	American Dad [R]                   4.710	2.1

FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.500	1.7
FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               4.020	1.5
FOX	Sun	8:00	30 min	The Simpsons [R]                   3.780	1.8
FOX	Sun	8:30	30 min	King of ther Hill [R]              3.740	1.8
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: Hollywood Homicide          3.500	0.9

FOX	Sun	7:00	60 min	Don’t Forget The Lyrics [R]        2.580	1.0

Who would have thought that the Animation block would become one of the weaker spots of the schedule. Hope it rebounds in the fall

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
For the Week Ending June 15, 2008

Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                         Viewers*	Demo
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FOX	Wed	9:00	120 min	So You think You Can Dance         8.910	3.4
FOX	Tue	9:00	60 min	Hell's Kitchen                     8.810	4.2
FOX	Thu	9:00	60 min	So You Think You Can Dance         8.020	2.9
FOX	Mon	9:00	60 min	House [R]                          7.970	2.7
FOX	Mon	8:00	60 min	Bones [R]                          7.490	2.2

FOX	Thu	8:00	60 min	Smarter than a 5th grader          6.250	1.8
FOX	Tue	8:00	60 min	Moment of Truth	                   6.010	2.4
FOX	Sat	9:00	60 min	Americas Most Wanted               5.190	1.8
FOX	Sun	9:00	30 min	Family Guy [R]                     5.150	2.4
FOX	Sun	9:30	30 min	American Dad [R]                   4.710	2.1

FOX	Sat	8:30	30 min	Cops [R]                           4.500	1.7
FOX	Sat	8:00	30 min	Cops                               4.020	1.5
FOX	Sun	8:00	30 min	The Simpsons [R]                   3.780	1.8
FOX	Sun	8:30	30 min	King of ther Hill [R]              3.740	1.8
FOX	Fri	8:00	120 min	Movie: Hollywood Homicide          3.500	0.9

FOX	Sun	7:00	60 min	Don’t Forget The Lyrics [R]        2.580	1.0