Chuck's momentum has been stopped by Dancing with the Stars. At least it got back over 6 million viewers and improved on its last original showing. Of course, House was in a repeat so that helped. It's a bubble show but I think it's more likely to get canceled. Unfortunately Chuck's best ratings are when most of the bigger hits are in repeat or when Dancing was off the air, so I don't see a big improvement in numbers.
I saw an episode of Castle. It was ok but I won't watch it live regularly. It had good retention last week but not as good this week. Still, with some of the other new shoes debuting to terrible ratings, Castle isn't doing that badly (yet). What ratings do people think it needs to maintain to stay on the air?
I thought HIMYM was ok. I know there is a lot of hype with the Big Bang Theory but I just can't get into it.
Do you just make this stuff up? I think its pretty clear the House and CBS comedy crowd is not the same as BBT and HIMYM went up when House entered the hour. The problem for them has been Dancing and the fact that the night was all screwed up with some shows airing a new ep in a different time slot than normal. What CBS was likely trying to do last night was air the new ep out of time slot so it doesn't count towards season average.
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Originally posted by Twins12: Maybe, maybe not. Do you realize if House was new last night HIMYM would have almost certainly been under 7 million. That is pretty bad.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
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It could not do any worse than HIMYM.
Oh, yes, it could. See Old Christine, which did respectably after 2.5 Men but is clearly not a strong anchor.
Can we please save Heroes from its misery. A 2 hour movie is more than enough
CW should rebound a little with Secret Life out of the picture. Mushu won't agree with me, but despite such a stupid storyline OTH was pretty entertaining last night.
I'm very curious to see what numbers Roommates got last night on ABCFamily. Total Friends rip-off but quite funny actually
It does about as well as anything else has although if I recall correctly, Christine was about the same most weeks and so was Out of Practice. Rules true strength won't really be known until it airs elsewhere but it deserves one more spring behind 2.5 Men before we see that. CBS should really try to pump this show up so they can have a better 8pm lead off next fall. Christine has about a half season left in it if I had to guess so the two shows can simply switch positions again next year.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Last week, ROE was at 83% retention in the demo and 81% in viewers, when both were original episodes.
No one expects ROE to pull the numbers 2.5 Men does, but it is a decent, strong lead out for 2.5 Men.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: The problem is it won't have that sort of retention when 2.5 Men is in originals. Good night for it though considering how poorly 8pm went for CBS.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: And no mention of how ROE kept nearly all the demo leadin from 2.5 Men?
One of NBC's many problems is it long ago lost its status as a network people would "default" to when other nets were in reruns.
I think people are doing less of this kind of viewing anyway with the rise of cable, internet, etc, and really only CBS, and then only with some shows, gets these viewers, along with maybe HOUSE, and BONES to a certain degree.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Chuck's main problem is its on NBC. You can't expect people to automatically sample because something is in repeats. It just doesn't work that way. People aren't going to join a show in the middle. BTW, I think Chuck may have actually been up from some recent installments.
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Originally posted by Twins12: How bad was Chuck last night ? With BBT out of the picture, and House in a repeat all it gets is 6 million viewers ? I think it is now time for Chuck to meet his demise.
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Even SVU and the original L&O have lost that status. NBC really needs to develop some relatable new dramas next year. Hopefully Southland is the first step.
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Originally posted by Bruce: One of NBC's many problems is it long ago lost its status as a network people would "default" to when other nets were in reruns.
I think people are doing less of this kind of viewing anyway with the rise of cable, internet, etc, and really only CBS, and then only with some shows, gets these viewers, along with maybe HOUSE, and BONES to a certain degree.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Chuck's main problem is its on NBC. You can't expect people to automatically sample because something is in repeats. It just doesn't work that way. People aren't going to join a show in the middle. BTW, I think Chuck may have actually been up from some recent installments.
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Originally posted by Twins12: How bad was Chuck last night ? With BBT out of the picture, and House in a repeat all it gets is 6 million viewers ? I think it is now time for Chuck to meet his demise.
I think Twins12 has a very valid point. Had HOUSE been Original, there would have been another 6-8 million viewers and 2-3 full demo points taken by the show. Some of that Audience would have been taken away from HIMYM.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Do you just make this stuff up? I think its pretty clear the House and CBS comedy crowd is not the same as BBT and HIMYM went up when House entered the hour. The problem for them has been Dancing and the fact that the night was all screwed up with some shows airing a new ep in a different time slot than normal. What CBS was likely trying to do last night was air the new ep out of time slot so it doesn't count towards season average.
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Originally posted by Twins12: Maybe, maybe not. Do you realize if House was new last night HIMYM would have almost certainly been under 7 million. That is pretty bad.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
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It could not do any worse than HIMYM.
Oh, yes, it could. See Old Christine, which did respectably after 2.5 Men but is clearly not a strong anchor.
Originally posted by Troxa: CBS made a very bad move by airing an original HIMYM at 8pm at the last minute.
I think mushu_jj hit the nail on the head by saying CBS was likely trying to air the episode out of the time slot so it didn't count towards the season average. So maybe it was a very good move, strategically speaking, rather than having a BBT repeat as lead-in for a new HIMYM that would count in the average?
Will you get your facts straight for just once, please. HIMYM and BBT both dropped over a million viewers when House came in the time slot. Obviously, DWTS hurts more, but do you really think if House was new in the time slot that HIMYM or BBT for that matter, would not have dropped at all ? Come on, get your head out of the sand. There has to be some House viewers that also watch the CBS sitcoms.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Do you just make this stuff up? I think its pretty clear the House and CBS comedy crowd is not the same as BBT and HIMYM went up when House entered the hour. The problem for them has been Dancing and the fact that the night was all screwed up with some shows airing a new ep in a different time slot than normal. What CBS was likely trying to do last night was air the new ep out of time slot so it doesn't count towards season average.
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Originally posted by Twins12: Maybe, maybe not. Do you realize if House was new last night HIMYM would have almost certainly been under 7 million. That is pretty bad.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
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It could not do any worse than HIMYM.
Oh, yes, it could. See Old Christine, which did respectably after 2.5 Men but is clearly not a strong anchor.
OF course, there is. If mushu_jj thinks there aren't some House viewers that also watch the CBS sitcoms then he is clueless. If House were new last night HIMYM would have lost some viewers. How many we cannot say, but most likely it would have lost more than 400,000 viewers which would have put it under 7 million.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I think Twins12 has a very valid point. Had HOUSE been Original, there would have been another 6-8 million viewers and 2-3 full demo points taken by the show. Some of that Audience would have been taken away from HIMYM.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Do you just make this stuff up? I think its pretty clear the House and CBS comedy crowd is not the same as BBT and HIMYM went up when House entered the hour. The problem for them has been Dancing and the fact that the night was all screwed up with some shows airing a new ep in a different time slot than normal. What CBS was likely trying to do last night was air the new ep out of time slot so it doesn't count towards season average.
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Originally posted by Twins12: Maybe, maybe not. Do you realize if House was new last night HIMYM would have almost certainly been under 7 million. That is pretty bad.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
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It could not do any worse than HIMYM.
Oh, yes, it could. See Old Christine, which did respectably after 2.5 Men but is clearly not a strong anchor.
