I just wish they would stay away from all the Robin stuff... she's not the mother... and it starts getting creepy that he is telling his kids so much about their (s)exploits....
Creepier than an unseen documentary crew spending years omnisciently chronicling the personal lives and oddball minituiae of a branch office for an obscure paper company?
They're just framing gimmicks, and should not be taken remotely seriously. Obviously no such dad ever existed, and no such documentary crew ever existed.
Robin isn't the mother to be met, no. Query--does Ted ever explicitly refer to the kids' mother as his wife?
I mean, if you're going to get all persnickety, don't you think any wife and mother would have objected by now to her husband talking to their kids about his sex life for what must have been weeks by now? Seriously, where IS this woman?
The show is just not worth that kind of analysis, IMO. A good chuckle, yes. Serious analysis, no.
The creators have said we will meet the mother this season... but we ( and Ted ) may not know she is the mother this season... of course they said that prior to the strike
As far as Robin goes... He has called her Aunt Robin to the kids....
And for anyone who watched last night... Didn't Marshall and Lilly buy a condo last week? Did I miss something.... why are they still living with Ted?
Originally posted by Philo: Message of what? Where do you get this stuff? Prady is leading location picket teams and is on the line every day. He's extremely pro-strike and pro-guild.
"This is heart-wrenching. I've worked 22 years and I finally with Chuck Lorre have my very first show, and we are at our most vulnerable, just as audiences are starting to discover us."
Mmm, yeah, real pro-strike alright.
Greg Garcia is on the picket lines, too. All the while he's being quoted as saying he wants to "throw up" while other people are working on his show without him.
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And if you really think it would have been smarter to keep a live-audience sitcom in production without writers to continually polish and punch-up the script, you've probably never tried it.
At what price, glory? "Big Bang's" production was moving about as fast as a turtle, and as such was the first new prime-time show (second overall) to run out of new episodes. On one hand, they can be first in line to have their momentum grind to a screeching halt but with every episode perfect. On the other, they can have the momentum going a couple extra weeks (through November sweeps at least) but with slightly less perfect episodes. And if they're slightly less perfect, so what? That's what laugh tracks are for. Just ask Bill. I'm sure he mastered the art of them on "Good Morning, Miami."
So, yeah, actually, I do think it would have been smarter. "How I Met Your Mother" doesn't have the benefit of last-minute polishing and punching up. For whatever reason, people watch it. So it doesn't seem to have hurt the show.
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
As pisher said, probably not worth the analysis... though the show is typically EXTREMELY good with continuity... that's a fair point. Did I miss a tag or something where they gave the Dowisetrepla condo up?
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Originally posted by pisher:
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I just wish they would stay away from all the Robin stuff... she's not the mother... and it starts getting creepy that he is telling his kids so much about their (s)exploits....
Creepier than an unseen documentary crew spending years omnisciently chronicling the personal lives and oddball minituiae of a branch office for an obscure paper company?
They're just framing gimmicks, and should not be taken remotely seriously. Obviously no such dad ever existed, and no such documentary crew ever existed.
Robin isn't the mother to be met, no. Query--does Ted ever explicitly refer to the kids' mother as his wife?
I mean, if you're going to get all persnickety, don't you think any wife and mother would have objected by now to her husband talking to their kids about his sex life for what must have been weeks by now? Seriously, where IS this woman?
The show is just not worth that kind of analysis, IMO. A good chuckle, yes. Serious analysis, no.
The creators have said we will meet the mother this season... but we ( and Ted ) may not know she is the mother this season... of course they said that prior to the strike
As far as Robin goes... He has called her Aunt Robin to the kids....
And for anyone who watched last night... Didn't Marshall and Lilly buy a condo last week? Did I miss something.... why are they still living with Ted?
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"This is heart-wrenching. I've worked 22 years and I finally with Chuck Lorre have my very first show, and we are at our most vulnerable, just as audiences are starting to discover us."
Mmm, yeah, real pro-strike alright.
Feeling pain at the effects of the strike is not the equivalent of opposing it.
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Originally posted by Riff Rafferty: So, yeah, actually, I do think it would have been smarter. "How I Met Your Mother" doesn't have the benefit of last-minute polishing and punching up. For whatever reason, people watch it. So it doesn't seem to have hurt the show.
HIMYM does not shoot in front of an audience. BBT has consistently higher ratings (demo and household) than HIMYM.
How I met your mother has become really funny again -- after a ho-hum second season. It's as good as the first season -- the apt episode was hilarious as anything the show has ever done.
i want to like Chuck and continue to watch it because I like the concept, I'm just wondering if Adam Brody would do better instead of Zachary Levi in the lead role -- but can't do anything about that now.
I would prefer Lost at 8P so that more people can see it. I'm surprised that abc is not going with the 8P Tuesday slot.
Originally posted by Philo: HIMYM does not shoot in front of an audience.
FROM THE BOOK OF DUH! Why else would I bring it up? It's hardly the first multi-cam sitcom in history to shoot without an audience, either. Funny how they seem to be able to do just fine without rewriting every joke a dozen times over when the crowd doesn't burst into hysterics every time the "laugh" sign goes up. Maybe they do it by magic.
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BBT has consistently higher ratings (demo and household) than HIMYM.
Not last night, dear. And, I'm guessing, not for the foreseeable future. Remind me what my point was again?
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You really don't know what you're talking about.
Maybe I don't. I think I know what you're talking about, though. What you're talking about seems to be that "TBBT's" first drafts are appalling unfunny and are unfit for the airwaves, and if it weren't for stony silence from the studio audience, none of the writing staff would be able to tell a funny joke from an unfunny one. Fair enough.
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
Originally posted by Seat42f: And for anyone who watched last night... Didn't Marshall and Lilly buy a condo last week? Did I miss something.... why are they still living with Ted?
Considering that it takes a month or two or more to close on a house from the time when you say 'we will take it', the show should be able to have a few more episodes with them all living together. In fact, it would make perfect sense for them to have Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's together before the dreaded move.
Originally posted by Riff Rafferty: I would've expected "Big Bang" to repeat a lot better than that.
It repeated very well. How much higher did you expect it to repeat vs. when it originally aired?
It's not a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. when it originally aired. It's a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. the new episode of "How I Met Your Mother." Who watches that, anyway?
Oh, ok. So, Big Bang Theory had a very good rating for a rerun and you are going to disparage it based upon a complete and total lack of understanding of HIMYM's audience size? Got it.
BBT has consistently higher ratings (demo and household) than HIMYM.
Not last night, dear. And, I'm guessing, not for the foreseeable future. Remind me what my point was again?
Only because Big Bang is in repeats. Once originals resume, it will resume its domination in first run over overrated HIMYM. You see, unlike HIMYM, Big Bang has potential to become a mass appealing hit.
Originally posted by Riff Rafferty: I would've expected "Big Bang" to repeat a lot better than that.
It repeated very well. How much higher did you expect it to repeat vs. when it originally aired?
It's not a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. when it originally aired. It's a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. the new episode of "How I Met Your Mother." Who watches that, anyway?
Oh, ok. So, Big Bang Theory had a very good rating for a rerun and you are going to disparage it based upon a complete and total lack of understanding of HIMYM's audience size? Got it.
Agreed. Once repeats hit HIMYM, it will fall below Big Bang.
The creators have said we will meet the mother this season... but we ( and Ted ) may not know she is the mother this season... of course they said that prior to the strike
Right, and they said it as if we CARE.
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As far as Robin goes... He has called her Aunt Robin to the kids....
Yes, she's not the mother, we KNOW that. But do we know for a fact he married the mother? Or that they're still married? No, and there's a reason we don't know that. Because they don't WANT us to know. Because parenthood and spousehood are two entirely different 'hoods, man. Keeping their options open, and keeping the Ted/Robin shippers hopin'.
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And for anyone who watched last night... Didn't Marshall and Lilly buy a condo last week? Did I miss something.... why are they still living with Ted?
Because building new sets is even more expensive than buying a condo?
Originally posted by Riff Rafferty: I would've expected "Big Bang" to repeat a lot better than that.
It repeated very well. How much higher did you expect it to repeat vs. when it originally aired?
It's not a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. when it originally aired. It's a question of how much higher I expected it to repeat vs. the new episode of "How I Met Your Mother." Who watches that, anyway?
Oh, ok. So, Big Bang Theory had a very good rating for a rerun and you are going to disparage it based upon a complete and total lack of understanding of HIMYM's audience size?
"Every show was an hour long, yet look how much higher the second half hour is. That is a perfect example of HUT levels in action during the first hour of primetime. Fans of shows like Big Bang Theory need to think twice before bragging about a few hundred thousand viewer increase over the lead-in when the networks average a million viewer gain from the top to the bottom of the hour."
"Big Bang Theory has a tiny lead over HIMYM, but I'd call that a HUT lead. It has lost any real ratings advantage. I still think the biggest problem is that the female lead isn't interesting, funny, attractive, etc..."
"Now, when this fall comes and their only 'successful' new show is Big Bang Theory performing near TNAoOC levels, then we can revisit the 'CBS is failing' topic."
"The negative news is that last week they had a 1.3million viewer lead and a 15.5% demo growth. Expect HIMYM to continue to close this gap; not good for CBS since HIMYM has the harder (lower HUT) timeslot."
"I have not said that BBT was about to be cancelled. What I have said is that given the current ratings (and ratings trends) between the two shows, CBS would be more likely to keep HIMYM. What I have said is that going into next season, CBS will not likely keep both of them."
Obnoxeeus, don't be a hypocrite. It's not becoming.
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
HIMYM always has the same share as BBT (in fact, it's beaten it a couple times). That means it's the same percentage of viewers, and that the number of viewers simply increases in the second half hour (note that this even happens to Chuck, building on itself, and Chuck is not doing nearly as well as either BBT or HIMYM). So it's actually kind of a moot point.
If more people turn on the TV, but the same percentage of that larger group watches BBT, there's kind of not a big difference there.
The larger point is, in the context of sitcoms in 2007, BBT and HIMYM are forming a solid hour (they both beat Earl, 30 Rock and Scrubs every week).
Although it hasn't really worked out for them, I do give NBC credit for having the best slate of new shows this season. Though going into the fall season if someone would have said that Bionic Woman would be my least favorite of the 4 I would have thought they were crazy. Right now in terms of favorites I would rank them
1. Life (if you aren't watching this show, you have been missing out...sooooo good. Hadn't even planned on watching it but gave the first episode a DVR and have loved it since the first episode) 2. Chuck (escapism fun for the nerd in us all) 3. Journeyman (much better than I expected it would be, the ratings are horrible, I just hope that the strike works in its favor since the less material NBC has the better chance we get to see all the finished episodes). 4. Bionic Woman (didn't work for me at all...I have stuck with it and the bright spots have been very few and far between. NBC could have probably snagged a few viewers if they played up the "we got Dr. Burke from Grey's Anatomy!!" card a little more).
I certainly hope Chuck and Life get second seasons. Ratings aren't great for Chuck but looks to have leveled off to a consistent range, and im not sure that Charlie Crews could find enough snark in him to put some positive spin on the ratings for his show.
