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quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: I personally know people who were on Reality TV and there was no coaching as to how to act. quote: Originally posted by Zitrone: quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Yeah - and all the family members too and none of that information would ever leak to the general public about this highly illegal activity.  . quote: Originally posted by vlis: those people on MoT cannot be for real; they must be actors
They are not actors, but they are acting. Rule 1 of "reality TV". Lost was pretty good last night, but the ending felt rushed.
On what show, cause i don't think there is a single one that doesn't uses C-list actors or at least coached people
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The Amazing Race. It doesn't do any of the stuff you claim and I know that for fact. quote: Originally posted by robert: On what show, cause i don't think there is a single one that doesn't uses C-list actors or at least coached people
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| Posts: 5409 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 |    |
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I would agree with x. I have yet to see people who look like they're "acting" on the Amazing Race. Pure real life drama at its finest! quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: The Amazing Race. It doesn't do any of the stuff you claim and I know that for fact. quote: Originally posted by robert: On what show, cause i don't think there is a single one that doesn't uses C-list actors or at least coached people
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If you need confirmation, then you are not absolutely sure who the shooter is. I'm just saying why do you have to know everything. I thought every true lost fan must realize that all good things come to those who wait. last nights episode revealed a lot. quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan: quote: Originally posted by robert: Lost fans are so easy to please. That was a cliffhanger?
I disliked the execution of the scene (which gets a semi-pass because the script was the last strike script, so did not go through the revisions it normally would have). And, as above, I think it would've been much more cliffhanger-y if they'd shown the shooter (since I think every single viewer knows who it is... no need to keep us in the dark). At the same time, they have been building to that moment, the moment that the freighter people start attacking the Island, since the end of last season with Ben trying to stop Jack from contacting the boat. It's a big, ominous event. Which, again, is why I think it would've been better to show us the shooter so we had confirmation. There's no rabbit to be pulled out of a hat, so why not just show it?
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quote: Originally posted by lambertman: You can't really say "Amazing Race doesn't do it, therefore no reality show does it".
Exactly, and Amazing Race is not even "reality TV" in my opinion, more of a game show.
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| Posts: 578 | Location: NYC | Registered: 02 November 2007 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Zitrone: quote: Originally posted by lambertman: You can't really say "Amazing Race doesn't do it, therefore no reality show does it".
Exactly, and Amazing Race is not even "reality TV" in my opinion, more of a game show.
Huh? Then isn't just about any reality show a gameshow? Next thing you'll tell me Flava Flav is a gameshow. They are competing after all.
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quote: Originally posted by lambertman: You can't really say "Amazing Race doesn't do it, therefore no reality show does it".
I agree that some reality shows look like the people have been coached. Typically they include those childhood stars on VH1, where acting is on their resume so it comes as no surprise.
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quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: Huh? Then isn't just about any reality show a gameshow? Next thing you'll tell me Flava Flav is a gameshow. They are competing after all.
BB, Jerry Springer, TRL, MoT... that's reality TV, the focus is watching a few idiots tearing each other apart on TV under some make-believe premise. Something like AI is a classic gameshow.
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| Posts: 578 | Location: NYC | Registered: 02 November 2007 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Zitrone: quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: Huh? Then isn't just about any reality show a gameshow? Next thing you'll tell me Flava Flav is a gameshow. They are competing after all.
BB, Jerry Springer, TRL, MoT... that's reality TV, the focus is watching a few idiots tearing each other apart on TV under some make-believe premise. Something like AI is a classic gameshow.
I wouldn't call Jerry Springer reality. If anything, that is coaching at its best. AI to me is more variety than anything. The lines today are so blurry for some shows, who knows anymore.
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In the chat room, up for chatting this Good Friday if anyone else is before the fast nationals are posted.
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Oof, my Lost fandom called into question. Here's why I think confirmation was necessary. There are only two elements the shooters could be. One, is the boat people, which was expertly led up to during the episode and over this season. All the elements were put in place for the event to happen, from Frank's disappearance to Ben telling Alex what the boat people know she means to him. Two, is the Others in the Temple, which is what I thought it was for a split second. However, the latter option requires a ton of explanation and, frankly, isn't as dramatically satisfying to have yet another iterations of Ben Linus is Omniscient and Sets People Up To Die. Finally, there is more than one type of cliffhanger. Last night's cliffhanger was a death and people being put in danger, and, by not showing us the shooter, meant to make us as "who is the shooter". There are times when mystery is NOT necessary. The implications of showing us who the shooter is, whether it is one of the boat people deployed on the Island or one of the Others in the Temple, are just as big a doozy of a cliffhanger as the mystery of "who is the shooter". Because if it's one of the Others, then we're asked "WTF!?" and if it's one of the boat people, then there's the ominous cloud of "yeah, the boat people really aren't good, and they really are here to kill us". Both of which are excellent things for an episode to make a viewer think or feel when it ends, and, I think, more powerful than "who is the shooter". Jeez. quote: Originally posted by filmkr27: If you need confirmation, then you are not absolutely sure who the shooter is. I'm just saying why do you have to know everything. I thought every true lost fan must realize that all good things come to those who wait. last nights episode revealed a lot. quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan: quote: Originally posted by robert: Lost fans are so easy to please. That was a cliffhanger?
I disliked the execution of the scene (which gets a semi-pass because the script was the last strike script, so did not go through the revisions it normally would have). And, as above, I think it would've been much more cliffhanger-y if they'd shown the shooter (since I think every single viewer knows who it is... no need to keep us in the dark). At the same time, they have been building to that moment, the moment that the freighter people start attacking the Island, since the end of last season with Ben trying to stop Jack from contacting the boat. It's a big, ominous event. Which, again, is why I think it would've been better to show us the shooter so we had confirmation. There's no rabbit to be pulled out of a hat, so why not just show it?
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| Posts: 3389 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 21 September 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan: Oof, my Lost fandom called into question. Here's why I think confirmation was necessary. There are only two elements the shooters could be. One, is the boat people, which was expertly led up to during the episode and over this season. All the elements were put in place for the event to happen, from Frank's disappearance to Ben telling Alex what the boat people know she means to him. Two, is the Others in the Temple, which is what I thought it was for a split second. However, the latter option requires a ton of explanation and, frankly, isn't as dramatically satisfying to have yet another iterations of Ben Linus is Omniscient and Sets People Up To Die. Finally, there is more than one type of cliffhanger. Last night's cliffhanger was a death and people being put in danger, and, by not showing us the shooter, meant to make us as "who is the shooter". There are times when mystery is NOT necessary. The implications of showing us who the shooter is, whether it is one of the boat people deployed on the Island or one of the Others in the Temple, are just as big a doozy of a cliffhanger as the mystery of "who is the shooter". Because if it's one of the Others, then we're asked "WTF!?" and if it's one of the boat people, then there's the ominous cloud of "yeah, the boat people really aren't good, and they really are here to kill us". Both of which are excellent things for an episode to make a viewer think or feel when it ends, and, I think, more powerful than "who is the shooter". Jeez. quote: Originally posted by filmkr27: If you need confirmation, then you are not absolutely sure who the shooter is. I'm just saying why do you have to know everything. I thought every true lost fan must realize that all good things come to those who wait. last nights episode revealed a lot. quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan: quote: Originally posted by robert: Lost fans are so easy to please. That was a cliffhanger?
I disliked the execution of the scene (which gets a semi-pass because the script was the last strike script, so did not go through the revisions it normally would have). And, as above, I think it would've been much more cliffhanger-y if they'd shown the shooter (since I think every single viewer knows who it is... no need to keep us in the dark). At the same time, they have been building to that moment, the moment that the freighter people start attacking the Island, since the end of last season with Ben trying to stop Jack from contacting the boat. It's a big, ominous event. Which, again, is why I think it would've been better to show us the shooter so we had confirmation. There's no rabbit to be pulled out of a hat, so why not just show it?
Completely agree with you on this TravisYanan. Once the episode ended, I felt let down. I think it would have added more to the suspense and discussion if they showed who the shooter was. Read your blog on this episode. Maybe it was something they would have done if it wasn't for the strike.
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quote: Originally posted by Justin: ABC is smart with their promos for Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy already showing.
I especially like the "start fresh, ABC, start here" thing going on.
The only thing is, they could be a bit more over dramatic. But I assume ABC will change the promos come a week before the returns.
From Sitcomsonline.com http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=3864401#post3864401Posted by: pavanbadal On: 03-21-2008 01:00 AM Did anyone notice The Mole hints tonight during ABC promos? During promos of the return of scripted TV, on each of them you see The Mole logo at the end for a split second. Very cool and interesting! Samantha Who (April 7) promo, Desperate Housewives (April 13), and Grey's Anatomy (April 24) promo had it for sure. I bet The Mole will premiere in May.
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