Originally posted by mushu_jj: Why is Life on Mars still in that time slot? Time to fess up that the Wed. lineup isn't working and move Dateline as counter programming in the 9pm hour on Wed. Life could then just air out its eps on Fridays at 10, which remains a burn off night on NBC.
Jeff Bader, EVP of ABC Primetime Entertainment, stated the show will remain in the timeslot and air all episodes. I think the show is done, especially if The Unusuals performs the same or better.
Woah! Wrong show name on my part lol. Meant Life all along but Life on Mars ratings are bad too (hope ABC airs that out though).
I'm a fan of Life on Mars as well, but I don't belive airing after Lost has helped the show. If you look at the DVR numbers for Lost, almost 50% of people that record the show watch that same day, before 3am. With that in mind, some of that viewing must be occuring right after the Lost thus hurting the 10pm slot.
The Simpsons still has about 5 more additional years to go before it reaches Gunsmoke's episode count. I don't see it lasting that much longer.
Did anyone see it lasting 10 years, let alone 20??? 25 is just as believeable as 30 now.
I'm not sure it will ever go away and that's just fine with me!
The problem is in the way FOX treats the show nowadays. If they promoted it or paired it with something that could pull decent ratings or even moved it to a later hour, I think The Simpsons could pull in a whole new generation of viewers. The problem is that FOX very much treats The Simpsons like a utility player these days. They want it there on Sunday to statr the evening and they don't even seem to care what kind of ratings it gets. With that attitude from FOX, I just don't see the Simpsons pulling in another 5+ years after the 2 that have just been ordered. If FOX wants the show to go on forever, they need to find a way to get the Simpsons onto the radar of the next generation.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: A one hour edition of NBC’s The Biggest Loser (which was the second half of Tuesday’s normally two-hour telecast) was second at 8-9 p.m., with a respectable 8.73 million viewers and a 3.3/ 9 among adults 18-49.
I agree. I suggested that NBC should split "The Biggest Loser" into two halves and have them anchor Tuesday and Wednesday (to fix their sorry Wednesday lineup and compete with "Idol"). Now they know why they should listen to me more often.
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
Only it should have been for lead actor. He's the center of the show, not Jack. Sure as hell not Kate and Sawyer. I don't give a damn what they have to say to each other next week. Not what I'm tuning in for.
And even if Kate and Sawyer were lead roles, they'd still both be played by horrible actors.
The Simpsons still has about 5 more additional years to go before it reaches Gunsmoke's episode count. I don't see it lasting that much longer.
Did anyone see it lasting 10 years, let alone 20??? 25 is just as believeable as 30 now.
I'm not sure it will ever go away and that's just fine with me!
The problem is in the way FOX treats the show nowadays. If they promoted it or paired it with something that could pull decent ratings or even moved it to a later hour, I think The Simpsons could pull in a whole new generation of viewers. The problem is that FOX very much treats The Simpsons like a utility player these days. They want it there on Sunday to statr the evening and they don't even seem to care what kind of ratings it gets. With that attitude from FOX, I just don't see the Simpsons pulling in another 5+ years after the 2 that have just been ordered. If FOX wants the show to go on forever, they need to find a way to get the Simpsons onto the radar of the next generation.
I agree with this. Time to give it a half decent lead in (I vote move American Dad to 7:30 behind Family Guy repeats) and then put the best looking new animated project they have (probably Cleveland Show) at 8:30 next year.
That was an excruciating episode of Idol. The old format (Top 24 all perform every week) was doing well so I'm puzzled over the change of format for semi-finals. I prefer the Top 24 format, since the viewers have 3 weeks to get to know and get attached to all of them. It makes for a more equal playing field, especially for those who didn't get much time during the Auditions or Hollywood episodes.
The performances were all awful tonight. Allison made my ears bleed but she was still the best of the night.
I think the ratings for Idol may possibly drop further next week. A lot of viewers have been underwhelmed for the past 2 weeks. This may possibly be reflected in the ratings next week.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: A one hour edition of NBC’s The Biggest Loser (which was the second half of Tuesday’s normally two-hour telecast) was second at 8-9 p.m., with a respectable 8.73 million viewers and a 3.3/ 9 among adults 18-49.
I agree. I suggested that NBC should split "The Biggest Loser" into two halves and have them anchor Tuesday and Wednesday (to fix their sorry Wednesday lineup and compete with "Idol"). Now they know why they should listen to me more often.
They get near a 5 demo though on Tuesdays at 9 most weeks. I say 2 hours a week should they need it but one night at week is good for next fall unless stuff fails miserably.
The Simpsons still has about 5 more additional years to go before it reaches Gunsmoke's episode count. I don't see it lasting that much longer.
Did anyone see it lasting 10 years, let alone 20??? 25 is just as believeable as 30 now.
I'm not sure it will ever go away and that's just fine with me!
The problem is in the way FOX treats the show nowadays. If they promoted it or paired it with something that could pull decent ratings or even moved it to a later hour, I think The Simpsons could pull in a whole new generation of viewers. The problem is that FOX very much treats The Simpsons like a utility player these days. They want it there on Sunday to statr the evening and they don't even seem to care what kind of ratings it gets. With that attitude from FOX, I just don't see the Simpsons pulling in another 5+ years after the 2 that have just been ordered. If FOX wants the show to go on forever, they need to find a way to get the Simpsons onto the radar of the next generation.
Airing repeats of episodes after only a few weeks of the original airing doesn't help either.
The Simpsons still has about 5 more additional years to go before it reaches Gunsmoke's episode count. I don't see it lasting that much longer.
Did anyone see it lasting 10 years, let alone 20??? 25 is just as believeable as 30 now.
I'm not sure it will ever go away and that's just fine with me!
The problem is in the way FOX treats the show nowadays. If they promoted it or paired it with something that could pull decent ratings or even moved it to a later hour, I think The Simpsons could pull in a whole new generation of viewers. The problem is that FOX very much treats The Simpsons like a utility player these days. They want it there on Sunday to statr the evening and they don't even seem to care what kind of ratings it gets. With that attitude from FOX, I just don't see the Simpsons pulling in another 5+ years after the 2 that have just been ordered. If FOX wants the show to go on forever, they need to find a way to get the Simpsons onto the radar of the next generation.
Airing repeats of episodes after only a few weeks of the original airing doesn't help either.
Every year they pull that crap too. After the initial surge of 9 or 10 episodes in the fall, they need to just schedule 5 or 6 episode increments. I would actually air new eps 2 weeks at least into December and then just go repeats in January unless there's a big NFL lead in available and no competing NFL game. Stuff like the Golden Globes and the Grammys probably wouldn't hurt the Fox shows as much as they do the ABC lineup. Another option would be to go all repeats from mid-December through the Superbowl and then return with non-stop new eps for 7 weeks, air a few repeats, and then finish up with 5 to 6 more originals. It's not that difficult.
The Simpsons has been in the same time slot since it moved back from Thursday years and years and years ago. So, its not like people can't find it. So is promotion really the problem? Plus, a major motion picture was successfully released two years ago that served as huge promotion for the so called next generation.
Rather than looking for the magical solution that would help this show recapture it glory years, you just gotta face a few facts. 1) The avaialable network television audience is much smaller now than it was in the 90s. Comparing the ratings of today to what they were 15 years ago is simply unfair to long running shows since it does not take into account the massive changes in the overall audience that have taken place 2) the quality of the show is simply not what it was, nor should anyone expect it to be. All shows pass their creative shelf life and this one did before the turn of the millenium 3) quality aside, the Simpsons as a pop culture touchstone is long passsed and likely will not come back. More promotion by Fox will not change that. The world has move on. 4) All this being said, the show still does surprising well in today's landscape in the the demo and Fox is obviously happy with it. its back for another two years as a shadow of its former self. Hoorah.
The Simpsons still has about 5 more additional years to go before it reaches Gunsmoke's episode count. I don't see it lasting that much longer.
Did anyone see it lasting 10 years, let alone 20??? 25 is just as believeable as 30 now.
I'm not sure it will ever go away and that's just fine with me!
The problem is in the way FOX treats the show nowadays. If they promoted it or paired it with something that could pull decent ratings or even moved it to a later hour, I think The Simpsons could pull in a whole new generation of viewers. The problem is that FOX very much treats The Simpsons like a utility player these days. They want it there on Sunday to statr the evening and they don't even seem to care what kind of ratings it gets. With that attitude from FOX, I just don't see the Simpsons pulling in another 5+ years after the 2 that have just been ordered. If FOX wants the show to go on forever, they need to find a way to get the Simpsons onto the radar of the next generation.
I agree with this. Time to give it a half decent lead in (I vote move American Dad to 7:30 behind Family Guy repeats) and then put the best looking new animated project they have (probably Cleveland Show) at 8:30 next year.
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Terry O'Quinn IS a good actor, however I couldn't care less about John Locke. In fact, I don't like him. I guess I can see why older people would find him interesting, but his life crisis just bore me!
Here are a few creative things that they need to do and the audience will find the show regardless of promotion...
1. Fast Forward the Show 5 Years - let the damn kids age a bit.
2. Give Marge a permanent makeover - the blue hair is getting old.
3. Have a long lost little bratty cousin come over and stay with them indefinitely.
4. One of Marge's sisters (I vote for the lesbian) needs to have a long bout with Lung Cancer. Have her almost die a few times and create some montages of our favorite moments with her.
5. Ted McGinley should join the cast as another next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by PaulC: The Simpsons has been in the same time slot since it moved back from Thursday years and years and years ago. So, its not like people can't find it. So is promotion really the problem? Plus, a major motion picture was successfully released two years ago that served as huge promotion for the so called next generation.
Rather than looking for the magical solution that would help this show recapture it glory years, you just gotta face a few facts. 1) The avaialable network television audience is much smaller now than it was in the 90s. Comparing the ratings of today to what they were 15 years ago is simply unfair to long running shows since it does not take into account the massive changes in the overall audience that have taken place 2) the quality of the show is simply not what it was, nor should anyone expect it to be. All shows pass their creative shelf life and this one did before the turn of the millenium 3) quality aside, the Simpsons as a pop culture touchstone is long passsed and likely will not come back. More promotion by Fox will not change that. The world has move on. 4) All this being said, the show still does surprising well in today's landscape in the the demo and Fox is obviously happy with it. its back for another two years as a shadow of its former self. Hoorah.
