I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
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Originally posted by robert: If you work for CW we're sorry for you whatsonop
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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it is true and it just more logical. They have very limited resources for promotions so they have this season decided to outsource all of this so they can "hopefully" reach their core demographic more effectively.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: Is K-Ville on the CW? FYI... The CW doesnt have an internal promotions department. it's all contracted out.
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators: So I take it you do work for the CW.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: Apparently whoever promoted K-Ville did there job effectively for you. :-)
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators: I hope it's not the CW. If so, you have a lot of work to do. LOL!
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I work in promotions for a network.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I think he wants to know what your job is...
Well that's no secret: computer operator
If that's true it's a bad move.
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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Originally posted by weaklink75: I think it is a burnout concern KV- Silverman was thinking about doing an "All-American Summer" (AG, America's got Talent, and then the Olympics). The Variety article did mention they're going to be making a mega-site for Gladiators after the season is over to keep interest until the next season starts- I know a couple of the Glads are nursing injuries as well, so they'll need time to heal.
Like they can't hire other Gladiators.
Anyway what's an All-american summer got to do with the Olympics? I don't get that.
Well thats what they focus on in the Olympics, the US Athletes stories...
and I know also that the person who plays Crush (Gina Carano) has a cagefight on Showtime late next month, so she's still in training for thatprobably..
But is it forbidden to get new gladiators?
As for the Olympics NBC has already provoked havoc on the Olympic schedul with their absurd demands. I hope they'll get bad results
I don't think anyone was insulting. People tend to joke around a lot.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
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Originally posted by robert: If you work for CW we're sorry for you whatsonop
Originally posted by whatsonpop: I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
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Originally posted by robert: If you work for CW we're sorry for you whatsonop
Computer Support - it's fun. We don't have fun in the forums related to my job though and none of them appreciated the conversations I started about Desperate Housewives or Moonlight.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I work in promotions for a network.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I think he wants to know what your job is...
Originally posted by whatsonpop: I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
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Originally posted by robert: If you work for CW we're sorry for you whatsonop
Well thank you for your "kind" words
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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HaHa. Just for reference, they don't like the Desperate Housewives conversations around here either!
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Computer Support - it's fun. We don't have fun in the forums related to my job though and none of them appreciated the conversations I started about Desperate Housewives or Moonlight.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I work in promotions for a network.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: I think he wants to know what your job is...
Well that's no secret: computer operator
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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Originally posted by bored striker: I'm just curious. A lot of people on this site seem plugged in, but never say what they do. I, as is obvious, currently carry a picket sign for a living. And for the record am not happy about it.p
Bartender. Desk clerk. Packager/shipper. Truck driver. Everyman. Plugged in? The co-creator of "NUMB3RS" thought I worked in television. Does that count?
For the record, any striker who speaks out against the strike is cool by me. So far, I think we've got you... and we've got Rob Long. Anybody else?
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
Should we empathize with the network and studio honchos who made this strike happen with their idiotic refusal to grant reasonable demands that responsible industry observers say would not be any great financial drain on them? Entertainment Weekly just published an opinion piece that says their refusal to talk is mainly rooted in their fear of looking weak. I guess I can understand that, but I don't particularly admire it.
Honestly, can't I save my empathy for people who are actually going hungry? And I don't think there are any people working in television who qualify in that regard.
Strike or no strike, we pity anyone who works for CW.
Originally posted by robert: SCC was a lucky show. The fact that it was a close match helped a lot. You cannot get a better lead-in than that. Of course it was the most watched pilot. You don't get a 40 million lead-in too often
But we really need to see the half hour breakdown. Marc help us!
It's not luck because FOX programs for it -- the last few years, FOX has launched shows or seasons after divisional playoffs to great success: 24,Prison Break, etc. Even CBS did it in the last couple of years. I actually applaud those programming chiefs for recognizing the importance of football ratings -- it is ABC that should be concerned, because myopic vision led them to rid of their own football (MNF), which also meant losing the wild-card playoff games, and, most of all, the Super Bowl, even on a rotational basis. I sure hope ABC is planning on biding for either AFC or NFC rights (currently with CBS and Fox, respectively) next time they are up for negotiations. Like their competitors each found out, they cannot be competitive without them. Each time a network rid themselves of pro football, they took a dive. CBS did it in the 90s, NBC most of this decade, and Fox was not even in the ballgame (no pun intended)as a major network until they took NFC rights from CBS. Each time, the network that lost those rights realized their mistake and aggresively negotiated to get a piece of the pie the next time around...
The difference is, however, that NBC is still taking a dive... even WITH football - and at great expense, no less. Yes, ABC dropped football, and they realized it was going to hurt in some areas - but from a fiscal standpoint, and based on their ratings the past two years - it hasn't turned out badly for them.
ABC dropped football for two reasons, I believe. First, the NFL wanted their biggest showcase game of the week to be on Sunday Nights, so they could institute their flex scheduling, which would not have worked for ABC well. Second, we can not forget that Disney is already paying through their *ss (the highest rights fees of all the nets) for an NFL package with ESPN which as stated by TV- aholic runs another six years.. I think Disney made the decision that the NFL was more beneficial to ESPN than to ABC.
While I think an NFL package would be beneficial for ABC, I don't see them back in the game on the next contract go-round. NBC is not going to let their contract go after one 6 year package. One would have to pry the NFC package out of Rupert Murdock’s "cold dead hands." The only package that conceivably could be vulnerable would be CBS's AFC package. And even then, I don't see CBS giving it up. Remember the Networks usually have an exclusive negotiating period to re-up their own package.
Therefore the earliest I see ABC back in the NFL would be 2019 and 2020, and who knows what we will be watching on a screen by then.
Originally posted by TAYLORJNG: Wow! TAR's rating was pretty damn good, and it had NO football overrun benefit.
I am so proud that "Amazing Race" held its audience against "Terminator." After the debacle of a CBS reality slate announced today, the network needs TAR #13 as soon as possible.
Hmm. What CBS reality slate debacle? What did they do?
Well for me personally how they handled TAR is the debacle. Here they new that a striek was very likely and would need replacement programming, pretty much on all nights. So they have a mainstay that does typically average over 10 milllion viewers and ooes better then average in demos (for CBS that is). And what do they do. Here they could have ordered two cycles (which they have done for the last 3 years) for 26 total episodes.
But nope they renew it for one cycle. One of only 11 episodes.
Their only programming to win Emmy last year.
And what does it do, it is doing very well currently (not counting last night, since we don't have final numbers yet) an average of 11.30 million viewers. Which some of the best ratigns TAR as averaged ever. When you factor in comparisons with the use of DVR's compared to last year (not to mention previous years), it's doing better then all but one season. How many shows out their can say that.
Not many, thats for sure.
Now we might get a 13th cycle (we will its just a question of when), but if we do it will be a rushed to production season.
Well said! Your post sums up CBS incompetence regarding THE AMAZING RACE...perfectly!
SCC will flop without the football lead in. It lost about 18 million with it. I hope it does flop.
As for The CW, it has no hope what so ever.
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Get a clue old-timer. I work with a lot of people who are 1 or 2 paychecks away from losing their homes. I don't work with the studio heads. I work for them, just as the thousands of writers who are striking right now. So save your empathy and your copy of Entertainment Weekly for the people you veiw "worthy" of your empathy and I will save mine for the people I have worked beside for 6 years who are losing their homes, who are worried about how their gonna feed their families. This is not a CW sucks conversation. Have that argument with someone else.
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I dont work for the CW, but amid you're generic insults, don;t forget you should have empathy for anyone working for any major network right now as they are all feeling the effects of this strike.
Should we empathize with the network and studio honchos who made this strike happen with their idiotic refusal to grant reasonable demands that responsible industry observers say would not be any great financial drain on them? Entertainment Weekly just published an opinion piece that says their refusal to talk is mainly rooted in their fear of looking weak. I guess I can understand that, but I don't particularly admire it.
Honestly, can't I save my empathy for people who are actually going hungry? And I don't think there are any people working in television who qualify in that regard.
Strike or no strike, we pity anyone who works for CW.
So does everyone who works for the real networks.
pisherafferty-free since 2008
Posts: 416 | Location: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: 01 December 2006
Originally posted by Riff Rafferty: For the record, any striker who speaks out against the strike is cool by me.
Not being happy with the strike (or wishing for it to end) is not the same as being unable to understand why it is happening or believing that it has to happen for results to ever occur.
