Originally posted by nyctvdramaqueen: Actually, Jordin Sparks is the only winner not featured in the auditions/hollywood episodes. Kelly Clarkson, Ruben Studdard, Fantasia, Carrie Underwood and Taylor Hicks all had their moments in both auditions and in hollywood.
Um, Jordin was shown several times during the auditions and hollywood rounds. I think it may be time for you to review Season 6.
Originally posted by Chimera: And if people on here are right that no one stood out from the masses of mediocrity, this could be a long season.
A long season is what? Maybe a 21 million average with a 8.0 demo? All the other Nets will surely be laughing at Fox if that were to occur.
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Plus the word is spreading that Taylor Hicks and Ruben were dropped from their label, that Jordin Sparks record is not doing well, etc. Only Kelly Clarkson and the country girl have done well as winners. Daughtry is doing extremely well after 4th, Clay Aiken did good in 2nd, and Jennifer Hudson only shows how the 5th season went so horribly wrong (she finished 7th). Could you imagine if Justin Guirini had won the 1st season instead of Kelly? He would have bombed, and AI may have quickly disappeared after a couple of seasons... The reason it became so huge is that Kelly Clarkson's success validated it, and people took it seriously.
While I agree with your analysis of the successful and unsuccessful Idols, I can't agree with your conclusion. Justin was dropped from the Idol record label before the beginning of the second season and it didn't chase people away from the show.
Granted, when Idol no longer capable of launching a career in music, then I think Simon and Sony BMG will want nothing to do with it anymore. However, I think we are along way away from that. Look at it this way; how much would a record company pay to guarantee that a marketing campaign for new artist could reach 20 million people per week with an initial album offer? No one in their right mind is going to laugh at upwards of twenty million viewers.
Yes, AI will eventually fade (all shows do). But, those of you that have been predicting its demise for going on three or four years now will probably have to wait a few more.
Originally posted by yankeesrj12: WOW! I would of never thought AI would decrease. Thats a first isnt it? Does anyone have the breakdowns for AI? However I only watched an hour of it last night. I felt like watching The Biggest Loser last night instead
Poor Jim, I LOVE that show. I DVR it though
Considering it had reduced competition than previous years, I think Marc is right that it has peaked. And if people on here are right that no one stood out from the masses of mediocrity, this could be a long season. Plus the word is spreading that Taylor Hicks and Ruben were dropped from their label, that Jordin Sparks record is not doing well, etc. Only Kelly Clarkson and the country girl have done well as winners. Daughtry is doing extremely well after 4th, Clay Aiken did good in 2nd, and Jennifer Hudson only shows how the 5th season went so horribly wrong (she finished 7th).
Could you imagine if Justin Guirini had won the 1st season instead of Kelly? He would have bombed, and AI may have quickly disappeared after a couple of seasons... The reason it became so huge is that Kelly Clarkson's success validated it, and people took it seriously.
It may have peaked. But noone should feel sorry for 33.24 mil and a 13.8 in the demo. It's still the biggest force on television and will be for awhile.
Everyone can make their American Idol Wednesday viewer and 18-49 predictions here at the PIFC Daily Game.
And also Kelly Clarkson did not blow up on the music scene until her second album Breakaway.
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Originally posted by Chimera: And if people on here are right that no one stood out from the masses of mediocrity, this could be a long season.
A long season is what? Maybe a 21 million average with a 8.0 demo? All the other Nets will surely be laughing at Fox if that were to occur.
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Plus the word is spreading that Taylor Hicks and Ruben were dropped from their label, that Jordin Sparks record is not doing well, etc. Only Kelly Clarkson and the country girl have done well as winners. Daughtry is doing extremely well after 4th, Clay Aiken did good in 2nd, and Jennifer Hudson only shows how the 5th season went so horribly wrong (she finished 7th). Could you imagine if Justin Guirini had won the 1st season instead of Kelly? He would have bombed, and AI may have quickly disappeared after a couple of seasons... The reason it became so huge is that Kelly Clarkson's success validated it, and people took it seriously.
While I agree with your analysis of the successful and unsuccessful Idols, I can't agree with your conclusion. Justin was dropped from the Idol record label before the beginning of the second season and it didn't chase people away from the show.
Granted, when Idol no longer capable of launching a career in music, then I think Simon and Sony BMG will want nothing to do with it anymore. However, I think we are along way away from that. Look at it this way; how much would a record company pay to guarantee that a marketing campaign for new artist could reach 20 million people per week with an initial album offer? No one in their right mind is going to laugh at upwards of twenty million viewers.
Yes, AI will eventually fade (all shows do). But, those of you that have been predicting its demise for going on three or four years now will probably have to wait a few more.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: And also Kelly Clarkson did not blow up on the music scene until her second album Breakaway.
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Originally posted by Hawk-eye: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Chimera: And if people on here are right that no one stood out from the masses of mediocrity, this could be a long season.
A long season is what? Maybe a 21 million average with a 8.0 demo? All the other Nets will surely be laughing at Fox if that were to occur.
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Plus the word is spreading that Taylor Hicks and Ruben were dropped from their label, that Jordin Sparks record is not doing well, etc. Only Kelly Clarkson and the country girl have done well as winners. Daughtry is doing extremely well after 4th, Clay Aiken did good in 2nd, and Jennifer Hudson only shows how the 5th season went so horribly wrong (she finished 7th). Could you imagine if Justin Guirini had won the 1st season instead of Kelly? He would have bombed, and AI may have quickly disappeared after a couple of seasons... The reason it became so huge is that Kelly Clarkson's success validated it, and people took it seriously.
While I agree with your analysis of the successful and unsuccessful Idols, I can't agree with your conclusion. Justin was dropped from the Idol record label before the beginning of the second season and it didn't chase people away from the show.
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But Justin failing as a runner up is not nearly as damaging as if Justin was the winner and it failed. Especially since it was the first season with no precedent.
Very true. From Justin to Kelly, the movie almost damaged the franchise too. I think this year we may see another Kelly/Carrie. Much more mainstream and pop oriented.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: And also Kelly Clarkson did not blow up on the music scene until her second album Breakaway.
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Originally posted by Hawk-eye: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Chimera: And if people on here are right that no one stood out from the masses of mediocrity, this could be a long season.
A long season is what? Maybe a 21 million average with a 8.0 demo? All the other Nets will surely be laughing at Fox if that were to occur.
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Plus the word is spreading that Taylor Hicks and Ruben were dropped from their label, that Jordin Sparks record is not doing well, etc. Only Kelly Clarkson and the country girl have done well as winners. Daughtry is doing extremely well after 4th, Clay Aiken did good in 2nd, and Jennifer Hudson only shows how the 5th season went so horribly wrong (she finished 7th). Could you imagine if Justin Guirini had won the 1st season instead of Kelly? He would have bombed, and AI may have quickly disappeared after a couple of seasons... The reason it became so huge is that Kelly Clarkson's success validated it, and people took it seriously.
While I agree with your analysis of the successful and unsuccessful Idols, I can't agree with your conclusion. Justin was dropped from the Idol record label before the beginning of the second season and it didn't chase people away from the show.
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But Justin failing as a runner up is not nearly as damaging as if Justin was the winner and it failed. Especially since it was the first season with no precedent.
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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If you purchase the From Justin to Kelly DVD, you can even get the extended version with 2 bonus songs!! Hurry, supplies are limited.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: Very true. From Justin to Kelly, the movie almost damaged the franchise too. I think this year we may see another Kelly/Carrie. Much more mainstream and pop oriented.
Originally posted by xwiseguyx: If you purchase the From Justin to Kelly DVD, you can even get the extended version with 2 bonus songs!! Hurry, supplies are limited.
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Originally posted by whatsonpop: Very true. From Justin to Kelly, the movie almost damaged the franchise too. I think this year we may see another Kelly/Carrie. Much more mainstream and pop oriented.
pisherafferty-free since 2008
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This (1/14-20) will be ABC's lowest rated 18-49 week since the dog days of the early 70's
Samcat, just wondering if you have a source to substantiate this claim?
I am not aware that A18-49 demographic data was collected and reported on a weekly basis in the 70's...I only remember seeing demographic specifics referred to during Sweep periods based on diary sampling.
In my memory, widespread A18-49 measurement during non-Sweep periods only came in with the advent of PeopleMeters, which were first tested in the eighties, and then implemented wider in the nineties.
My memory of ABC during the seventies was that they were always had a younger, large-market-skewed viewership (much stronger in youth and A18-49 demos than in other demographics). The early seventies were strong in youth demo shows such as the numerous shows from Mr. Spelling (The Mod Squad, The Rookies), successful anthology skeins (Movies of the Week across several nights) and youth-focused shows (Brady Bunch, Kung Fu, Six Million Dollar Man). Then, in the era of Mr. Fred Silverman, the A18-49 measures during the Sweep periods went through the roof, reaching a zenith that will perhaps never again be replicated.
