Originally posted by Twins12: Well, all this talk about the FOX shows, but how about CBS ? CBS basically won the night with repeats. Hopefully, this means people will be showing up for the premiere of the sitcoms next week in big numbers.
With the exception of Worst Week.
Worst Week will get a huge sampling next week, probably holding the entire Two and a Half Men audience. CBS has promoted it constantly, and it is getting terrific reviews from the critics. Its fate will be determined on how it does after its initial sampling. We have to see the trend if it is going down or holding steady after several weeks.
Terminator doesn't have a big budget as you make it out to be. Stop spreading false information.
By which you mean "Only repeat what the show's producers tell us, as if they had no motive to lie, and ignore all the articles and that NPR segment on TV budgets that say it's a big-budget show. Or else."
I think Worst Week will initially hold 80% of the 2 1/2 Men lead-in...that's it.
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Originally posted by Twins12: Well, all this talk about the FOX shows, but how about CBS ? CBS basically won the night with repeats. Hopefully, this means people will be showing up for the premiere of the sitcoms next week in big numbers.
With the exception of Worst Week.
Worst Week will get a huge sampling next week, probably holding the entire Two and a Half Men audience. CBS has promoted it constantly, and it is getting terrific reviews from the critics. Its fate will be determined on how it does after its initial sampling. We have to see the trend if it is going down or holding steady after several weeks.
PB numbers are declining week-to-week . I hope FOX decides to air a full season of PB or air a wrap-up movie. I hate it when networks cancel shows without giving closure to the show's fans. FOX can maybe work something out with an international network since the show is immensely popular abroad.
This is proof that the nielsen raitings is messed up and there needs to be a different way to track ratings. Because it is just plain weird that a rerun is getting that much and 10 and a halv man is really getting boring. It seems like those damn nielsen boxes are with the wrong people. Why not give a Nielsen box to each family then the ratings would be much more fair. because the system now is really messed up big time
Originally posted by Marc Berman: I think Worst Week will initially hold 80% of the 2 1/2 Men lead-in...that's it.
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Originally posted by Twins12:
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Originally posted by Twins12: Well, all this talk about the FOX shows, but how about CBS ? CBS basically won the night with repeats. Hopefully, this means people will be showing up for the premiere of the sitcoms next week in big numbers.
With the exception of Worst Week.
Worst Week will get a huge sampling next week, probably holding the entire Two and a Half Men audience. CBS has promoted it constantly, and it is getting terrific reviews from the critics. Its fate will be determined on how it does after its initial sampling. We have to see the trend if it is going down or holding steady after several weeks.
After the promotional push it got holding just 80% of the Men audience for its sampling would be terrible. ROE or Old Christine could do that. What would they need a new show to just hold 80% when you know it will be sampled next week, and go down the next week ? I am expecting much more for a sampling, and then for it to drop.
Originally posted by pisher: If FOX has to cancel something, and can't axe both Monday dramas, SCC is the one that should go. It didn't earn this season with its ratings--it was given a tremendous push last season (and again this season)--it had a huge football game as a lead-in for its pilot. It had every possible advantage. And it just kept dropping.
FOX only renewed it because they were so invested in it. But it was a mistake. And they can pretend otherwise for the rest of this season, but it'll always be a mistake.
PB at least USED to be a hit.
FOX didn't have much to choose from with the writers strike and all. It essentially had to bring back one drama and it's choices were Sarah Connor, New Amsterdam and Canterbury's Law. I think given their options, the made the right choice. Now for choosing Do Not Disturb over Back to You......
Both Sarah and Prison I think should write episode 13 as one that can be a season or series final in the event they don't get picked up for 9 more.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY MADE THE WRONG CHOICE WHEN THE PICKED SCC. THEY SHOULD HAVE PICKED CANTERBURYS LAW. IT WAS WAY BETTER. I MISS THAT SHOW SO MUCH.
T:SCC is relying on its name alone. The plot is absolutely terrible, its overacted, and they are hoping that they can cover it all with special effects and things that go boom. America is smarter than that and that is why the show is doing horrible. It plays like a bad sci fi movie of the week.
Overacting? What acting? Summer Glau does a great deadpan and that's about it. It's SO cheesetastic.
Originally posted by SoundWaveV: Yes, as I said before, I know DVD and DVR don't help Fox..
What they do show is that there are a many more people watching the show then reported. To me that is a big problem.
Obviously a restructuring of how things work between the networks and the studios will have to come into play when dealing with Serialized Dramas... Stranger things have happened.
Shows will keep coming and going as long as "It's never going to work", attitude is there.
Right. The TV industry appears to be in quite a dilemma. They're using a system that works when they want to determine how many George and Martha Landlines are watching--precisely the people they don't care about.
Meanwhile, The Young and the Restless, the cream, are watching MNF, DVR-ing, and being young and restless; and the Young and the Sluggish, the dregs, are breathing through their mouths and watching "Deal." Live.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Compared to a lot of the crap airing on broadcast TV though, it is better. I still would rather watch the so-far fairly bland Raising the Bar than ever watch another hour of the CSI's or their wretched clones on CBS. Sadly, the two best dramas on CBS in the past 3 years, Jericho and Swingtown, are both gone.
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Originally posted by ynot716: Perhaps but as far as quality of the story and acting compared to other cable shows it is very far behind. Or perhaps it's MPG hair? I can't really tell.
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Originally posted by ynot716: Cable is where the standard of high quality TV dramas are (don't take any credit Raising The Bar...you are not included in this list)
Raising the Bar improved big time in week two. I think in the long run it may become a respectable drama. I will continue to watch for now.
Swingtown has still not been canned. So there is hope.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Compared to a lot of the crap airing on broadcast TV though, it is better. I still would rather watch the so-far fairly bland Raising the Bar than ever watch another hour of the CSI's or their wretched clones on CBS. Sadly, the two best dramas on CBS in the past 3 years, Jericho and Swingtown, are both gone.
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Originally posted by ynot716: Perhaps but as far as quality of the story and acting compared to other cable shows it is very far behind. Or perhaps it's MPG hair? I can't really tell.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
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Originally posted by ynot716: Cable is where the standard of high quality TV dramas are (don't take any credit Raising The Bar...you are not included in this list)
Raising the Bar improved big time in week two. I think in the long run it may become a respectable drama. I will continue to watch for now.
Swingtown has still not been canned. So there is hope.
Originally posted by SoundWaveV: Shows like SCC and PB have way more fans then what the numbers show… From what I’ve read, I gather that a lot of people DVR them.
Also, people like to have the episodes to go back to, so watch it live and DVR it. (Don’t know if that affects the numbers negatively)
Until they find a way to incorporate DVR viewing into the numbers that advertisers care about, we will be stuck with more and more bad TV
Yeah that is what i have been saying something must be done about that damn outdated nielsen rating. Or we will see repeat of House, Oh another repeat of House. oh another one and then it will say Monday House Tuesday House Wednesday House Thursday House Friday Bones Saturday House Sunday House
Something must be done about that damn nielsen ratings. Because i know for a fact i know many who watch the shows like PB or SCC. So something is definetely rotten here. And the networks needs to wake up and smell the damn coffee allready
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Compared to a lot of the crap airing on broadcast TV though, it is better. I still would rather watch the so-far fairly bland Raising the Bar than ever watch another hour of the CSI's or their wretched clones on CBS. Sadly, the two best dramas on CBS in the past 3 years, Jericho and Swingtown, are both gone.
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Originally posted by ynot716: Perhaps but as far as quality of the story and acting compared to other cable shows it is very far behind. Or perhaps it's MPG hair? I can't really tell.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
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Originally posted by ynot716: Cable is where the standard of high quality TV dramas are (don't take any credit Raising The Bar...you are not included in this list)
Raising the Bar improved big time in week two. I think in the long run it may become a respectable drama. I will continue to watch for now.
Swingtown has still not been canned. So there is hope.
It took them 5 months to "officially" cancel Cane, so that doesn't mean much.
Also, the last bracket in your signature should say /IMG You need the / for the tag to work.
Originally posted by DonJ1973: Does anyone think FOX could move Bones to Monday's at 8pm for now and see if Terminator can survive on Wednesday at 8pm?
I think Bones has a strong enough fanbase where it can survive FOX Monday's. Hell, it's better than the proposed midseason move to Friday's once American Idol starts.
Oh they always say they're going to move "Bones" to Friday, but they never do--for first run episodes anyhow.
. I hope FOX decides to air a full season of PB or air a wrap-up movie. I hate it when networks cancel shows without giving closure to the show's fans. FOX can maybe work something out with an international network since the show is immensely popular abroad.
