Originally posted by mushu_jj: What! An NBC lineup that makes sense!? Who's calling the shots around there? Only 2 nights set to see struggling ratings. This is almost shocking.
They call it the L&O&DoND schedule. All they need to do now is toss in some Dateline in the remaining timeslots and they will have the whole scedules flushed out.
Meanwhile, the brain trust writers/producers of ER saved the 300th episode for their worst effort in several seasons. Horribly weak episode.
If I recall correctly, NBC will have football yet the first week of this new lineup. I have a feeling they could finish with one of their strongest weeks in a long time come the week of January 1st.
Originally posted by TravisYanan: Wednesday finals
SHOW HH A18-49 Viewers A18-34
SANTA CLAUS IS COMIN' TO TOWN 5.4/9 3.3/9 9,340,000
PRIVATE PRACTICE 7.0/11 3.8/10 10,399,000
DIRTY SEXY MONEY (10:02pm) 4.8/8 2.3/6 6,745,000
KID NATION 4.4/7 2.2/6 7,098,000
CRIMINAL MINDS (R) 6.0/9 2.5/6 9,201,000
CSI: NY (R) 6.8/12 2.8/8 10,369,000
DEAL OR NO DEAL 7.2/11 2.8/8 11,331,000
LIFE 5.0/8 2.5/7 7,630,000
BACK TO YOU (R) 3.6/6 1.8/5 5,534,000
TIL DEATH (R) 3.2/5 1.8/5 5,012,000
KITCHEN NIGHTMARES (R) 3.3/5 2.6/7 5,324,000
AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL 2.9/5 2.3/6 4,631,000 2.8/9
GOSSIP GIRL 1.7/3 1.2/3 2,435,000 1.8/5
PROJECT RUNWAY 2.0/3 1.7/5 3,102,000
DSM hovering aorund the 6.5 million mark. Would still love to see what the drop off was at 10:30...
How is 6.745 hovering around 6.5m??????
A number is a number it is a season low but it is not 6.5, its closer to 6.8.
You guys are so biased it is silly.
Still won 18-34 and ABC wins 18-49, If the strike ends we will finish 9 more episodes and likely move into season 2. This weeks number is disappointing but it shows the CORE exactly where it has been. Mr, Riff you continue to hate, it is fine, you win today but your shortsightedness is your weakness.
Obveeus, we will be back as long as the strike ends, contracts have already been signed.
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I was just looking at tvguide's tally of remaining episodes for shows. Apparently, DH has 1 episode left to air, and that might not air until the strike is resolved, since the tornado episode is a huge cliffhanger to end with, thereby creating more interest in the show when it eventually returns with a string of new episodes.
However, both B&S and DSM have 3 episodes left. I was thinking that rather than airing the 3 episodes with DH reruns at 9pm, why not move B&S to 9pm in January (or February) and air the fresh DSM episodes at 10pm? B&S seems like a more natural fit with EMHE (which will remain fresh b/c it is not a scripted show), and DSM is a family show like B&S, albeit a raunchier version. That would benefit the timeslots and both shows. Just a thought.
Originally posted by DirtySexyJ: Obveeus, we will be back as long as the strike ends, contracts have already been signed.
Dirty Sexy Money will not be back next season and the people that actually work there have not signed a contract guaranteeing them work on the show for next season.
Originally posted by DirtySexyJ: Obveeus, we will be back as long as the strike ends, contracts have already been signed.
Dirty Sexy Money will not be back next season and the people that actually work there have not signed a contract guaranteeing them work on the show for next season.
Just because contracts have been signed for the "back nine", doesn't mean that they will ever see the light of day, whether or not the strike continues. When the "back nine" is ordered, it is basically a request for more episodes. If the network decides, they can arbitrarily cut or cancel the request.
It remains to be seen what will happen with DSM. It depends on how desperate ABC is. The ratings/revenue in relation to productions costs are really nothing to crow about and the bottom line is always the most important. Right now, DSM's bottom line is just not where it needs to be to merit the show getting a second season or even a guarantee of completing it's first one.
Didn't TV Guid switch formats a couple years back?
Yes, they syill have some listings, but it is more of a tv entertainment 'zine than a tv schedule reminder.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Actually, I didn't realize that people still used TV Guides. The networks change up programming so much that most of the time, the TV Guide is inaccurate and outdated. Especially the past few months with the strike and all.
I let my DVR tell me if the show is new or not, but I know thats not the norm - yet.
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Originally posted by tvchtw: It sort of makes sense though. ABC hasn't had any audience to promote it to this week like it had during DWTS the rest of the fall. So I'm sure at least a percentage of people figured it was a rerun. I expect Grey's and Betty to be lower than average while Survivor will stay the same because fans know its on every week
Have these people ever heard of a TV Guide?? Maybe its just me, but I don't need a promo to let me know if a show is new or a repeat ... I just look at the TV Guide. A promo to me is only helpful to me in that it gives previews of the episode.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: What! An NBC lineup that makes sense!? Who's calling the shots around there? Only 2 nights set to see struggling ratings. This is almost shocking.
They call it the L&O&DoND schedule. All they need to do now is toss in some Dateline in the remaining timeslots and they will have the whole scedules flushed out.
Meanwhile, the brain trust writers/producers of ER saved the 300th episode for their worst effort in several seasons. Horribly weak episode.
If I recall correctly, NBC will have football yet the first week of this new lineup. I have a feeling they could finish with one of their strongest weeks in a long time come the week of January 1st.
The Final Regular Season Sunday Night Football game is December 30th.
NBC usually gets the 2 Saturday Games of the first weekend of the playoffs, so they should have an Afternoon game and a game in Primetime. then they are done for the year.
Hey, that will probably work out fine for them. This schedule is seriously an improvement over current lengths considering what they'll have. Had Medium been launched earlier this year along with Law and Order, allowing Life to perhaps air on Friday, I think NBC would be in a different situation. FNL could then be the show returning now from hiatus and filling a slot on a night like Sunday at 8 where there are few dramas.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: What! An NBC lineup that makes sense!? Who's calling the shots around there? Only 2 nights set to see struggling ratings. This is almost shocking.
They call it the L&O&DoND schedule. All they need to do now is toss in some Dateline in the remaining timeslots and they will have the whole scedules flushed out.
Meanwhile, the brain trust writers/producers of ER saved the 300th episode for their worst effort in several seasons. Horribly weak episode.
If I recall correctly, NBC will have football yet the first week of this new lineup. I have a feeling they could finish with one of their strongest weeks in a long time come the week of January 1st.
The Final Regular Season Sunday Night Football game is December 30th.
NBC usually gets the 2 Saturday Games of the first weekend of the playoffs, so they should have an Afternoon game and a game in Primetime. then they are done for the year.
Just because contracts have been signed for the "back nine", doesn't mean that they will ever see the light of day, whether or not the strike continues. When the "back nine" is ordered, it is basically a request for more episodes. If the network decides, they can arbitrarily cut or cancel the request.
It's amazing how few people realize that, even though orders get canceled or cut all the time.
And if a show gets brought back simply because a network needs something to fill airtime, that doesn't make the show a success.
Private Practice is the only successful drama ABC premiered this fall. And it's not exactly a huge success. It's no Greys Anatomy. But then, neither is Greys Anatomy lately.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Prime-Time Ratings: Wednesday 12/05/07
Encore ABC holiday special Santa Claus is Coming to Town won the 8 p.m. hour among adults 18-49, with a 3.4/ 9 in the demo (and a second-place finish in total viewers, with 9.44 million). Holiday specials to-date have scored unusually well on ABC. That led into original installments of Private Practice (Viewers: #2, 10.36 million; A18-49: #1, 3.8/10), which remains the show to beat among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m., followed by the recent full-season-renewed Dirty Sexy Money (Viewers: #3, 6.91 million; A18-49: #3, 2.4/ 7) at 10 p.m.
To me, the success of the holiday specials on ABC show that ABC has a built-in family-oriented audience that it is not properly utilizing. I mean, I grew up on family-oriented shows on ABC, but in the last 6 or 7 years, they've moved away from men, and moved away from families, and have honed in too narrowly on the young female demo... hey, ABC, we're out here as well!! If you bring us the right family show, we will come [back]...
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Prime-Time Ratings: Wednesday 12/05/07
Encore ABC holiday special Santa Claus is Coming to Town won the 8 p.m. hour among adults 18-49, with a 3.4/ 9 in the demo (and a second-place finish in total viewers, with 9.44 million). Holiday specials to-date have scored unusually well on ABC. That led into original installments of Private Practice (Viewers: #2, 10.36 million; A18-49: #1, 3.8/10), which remains the show to beat among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m., followed by the recent full-season-renewed Dirty Sexy Money (Viewers: #3, 6.91 million; A18-49: #3, 2.4/ 7) at 10 p.m.
To me, the success of the holiday specials on ABC show that ABC has a built-in family-oriented audience that it is not properly utilizing. I mean, I grew up on family-oriented shows on ABC, but in the last 6 or 7 years, they've moved away from men, and moved away from families, and have honed in too narrowly on the young female demo... hey, ABC, we're out here as well!! If you bring us the right family show, we will come [back]...
I agree. A slew of family comedies on Tuesday night would probably fix ABC's Tuesday problem, once and for all. However, I would argue families are still watching ABC with AFV, EXM: Home Edition, Ugly Betty, Dancing with the Stars, and even Pushing Daisies. Not to mention, According to Jim, Wife Swap, and Supernanny are all waiting in the wings and the Oprah series.
Just because contracts have been signed for the "back nine", doesn't mean that they will ever see the light of day, whether or not the strike continues. When the "back nine" is ordered, it is basically a request for more episodes. If the network decides, they can arbitrarily cut or cancel the request.
It's amazing how few people realize that, even though orders get canceled or cut all the time.
And if a show gets brought back simply because a network needs something to fill airtime, that doesn't make the show a success.
Private Practice is the only successful drama ABC premiered this fall. And it's not exactly a huge success. It's no Greys Anatomy. But then, neither is Greys Anatomy lately.
You're right, but no show is likely to see a "full" season as long as the strike lasts. I think these early results will be the keys for several shows- Moonlight, Pushing Daisies, Chuck, and Private Practice in securing renewals. Not to mention, development season will be effected so anything that looks remotely promising will be considered for the open slots.
You're right, but no show is likely to see a "full" season as long as the strike lasts. I think these early results will be the keys for several shows- Moonlight, Pushing Daisies, Chuck, and Private Practice in securing renewals. Not to mention, development season will be effected so anything that looks remotely promising will be considered for the open slots.
Private Practice would have been renewed, strike or no strike. It was never in question. It still is for the other shows. And given how the strike has put the networks right behind the 8-ball (right where the WGA wants 'em), that tells you a lot about how mediocre the reception has been for these shows. It won't be any better next season, for the ones that return. They had little enough momentum to start with.
While all reality all the time was never a workable option, the networks are considering a lot of things, including turning rejected movie scripts into pilots.
It's going to be a mess--one the networks brought on themselves. By letting this strike happen, and by picking up a lot of crappy pilots.
