Originally posted by Douglas: No it's not too early.
Since I'm always comparing Chuck to the much better Alias, the NBC show might be on the same track as the former ABC spy show and air post-Super Bowl XLIII in 2009. But NBC, please don't air it at 11pm on the East Coast (as ABC mistakenly did in 2003, and thus didn't count in the weekly ratings nor Alias' 2002-03 season average).
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Originally posted by Hawk-eye: So is it too early to start wondering what NBC should put in the post Super Bowl slot next year? Naturally, it should be the only show that can live up to the hype ...... nany na nanay na na na .... The Celebrity Apprentice.
Douglas, ditto on the Chuck to Alias comparison -- I guess Chuck is my Alias substitute, and since Alias is gone, Chuck is an okay substitute (better than nothing). I said somewhere that to me it's as if Marshall got his own show, and Sydney was in a supporting role.
In any case, Chuck was also the only one that came to mind when I thought of responding to that NBC post-SB question. However, Chuck is even more mediocre in ratings than Alias was, and is not even a sure bet for renewal. So I'll stick to my original post above that NBC should just use it to launch a new show instead, as they used to do in the not too distant past.
That philosophy has only worked a couple of times. As you can see, having the post Super Bowl slot does not correlate to a sucessful series launch
1983 The A-Team ("Mexican Slayride: Part 1" -- premiere episode) NBC 1984 XVIII Airwolf (premiere episode) CBS 1985 XIX MacGruder and Loud (premiere episode) ABC 1986 XX The Last Precinct (premiere episode) NBC 1987 XXI Hard Copy (premiere episode) CBS 1988 XXII The Wonder Years (premiere episode) ABC 1989 XXIII Brotherhood of the Rose (miniseries) NBC 1990 XXIV Grand Slam (premiere episode) CBS 1991 XXV Davis Rules (premiere episode) ABC 1992 XXVI 60 Minutes (Clintons interview) CBS 1993 XXVII Homicide: Life on the Street (premiere episode) NBC 1994 XXVIII The Good Life NBC 1995 XXIX Extreme (premiere episode) ABC 1996 XXX Friends NBC 1997 XXXI The X-Files FOX 1998 XXXII 3rd Rock from the Sun NBC 1999 XXXIII The Simpsons Family Guy (premiere episode) FOX 2000 XXXIV The Practice ABC 2001 XXXV Survivor (second series premiere) CBS 2002 XXVI Malcolm in the Middle FOX 2003 XXXVII Alias ABC 2004 XXXVIII Survivor (All-Stars premiere) CBS 2005 XXXIX The Simpsons American Dad (premiere episode) FOX 2006 XL Grey's Anatomy ABC 2007 XLI Criminal Minds CBS 2008 XLII House[1] QUOTE]
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well, for NBC, if Heroes drops in numbers next year, they can put it on after the Superbowl.
But, they can also put Chuck in there as well. Get a guest star, a very interesting case (maybe something that has to do with Bryce Larkin), and see if the 30+ million it would get translate into getting 15+ million a week for a great show..
As for the numbers. I thought this would be the highest rated superbowl ever, and it was off from last year. That seems weird to me.
Also, the number for House is slightly disappointing. Considering the show does 20-24 million pre-idol whoch gets 28-35 million usually, to have an 89 mil lead-in and manage to get in the 32 million range has to be a bit disappointing for FOX. I thought it would surely get at least 40 million considering it was arguably the best House episode yet..
Originally posted by whatsonpop: That philosophy has only worked a couple of times. As you can see, having the post Super Bowl slot does not correlate to a sucessful series launch
1983 The A-Team ("Mexican Slayride: Part 1" -- premiere episode) NBC 1984 XVIII Airwolf (premiere episode) CBS 1985 XIX MacGruder and Loud (premiere episode) ABC 1986 XX The Last Precinct (premiere episode) NBC 1987 XXI Hard Copy (premiere episode) CBS 1988 XXII The Wonder Years (premiere episode) ABC 1989 XXIII Brotherhood of the Rose (miniseries) NBC 1990 XXIV Grand Slam (premiere episode) CBS 1991 XXV Davis Rules (premiere episode) ABC 1992 XXVI 60 Minutes (Clintons interview) CBS 1993 XXVII Homicide: Life on the Street (premiere episode) NBC 1994 XXVIII The Good Life NBC 1995 XXIX Extreme (premiere episode) ABC 1996 XXX Friends NBC 1997 XXXI The X-Files FOX 1998 XXXII 3rd Rock from the Sun NBC 1999 XXXIII The Simpsons Family Guy (premiere episode) FOX 2000 XXXIV The Practice ABC 2001 XXXV Survivor (second series premiere) CBS 2002 XXVI Malcolm in the Middle FOX 2003 XXXVII Alias ABC 2004 XXXVIII Survivor (All-Stars premiere) CBS 2005 XXXIX The Simpsons American Dad (premiere episode) FOX 2006 XL Grey's Anatomy ABC 2007 XLI Criminal Minds CBS 2008 XLII House[1] QUOTE]
Well FOX clearly didn't have the best ideas. But the truth is only GA took advantage of thsi spot in the last years
It was very boring untill the last quarter. I've seen better Super Bowls.
I agree. 7-3 at the end of the first half? I don't consider a bunch of stalled drives, short runs and incomplete passes good football. Yeah, part of it was good defense, but part of it was just inept offense. It only picked up at the end of the 3rd Quarter, when both teams started remembering how to move the ball.
Oh well. I wish the Patriots had won, if only so the '72 Dolphins would fade into irrelevance. I'd seen about enough of them this season to last me a lifetime.
Totally incorrect. The Giants offense was actually doing OK in the 1st half, but they could not convert when they got into NE territory. NE offense was inept in the 1st half, but this was completely due to the Giants defense playing incredible. I would say that the Giants probably played the best played defense in Super Bowl history, considering who they were playing against.
Originally posted by Milcus: well, for NBC, if Heroes drops in numbers next year, they can put it on after the Superbowl.
But, they can also put Chuck in there as well. Get a guest star, a very interesting case (maybe something that has to do with Bryce Larkin), and see if the 30+ million it would get translate into getting 15+ million a week for a great show..
As for the numbers. I thought this would be the highest rated superbowl ever, and it was off from last year. That seems weird to me.
Also, the number for House is slightly disappointing. Considering the show does 20-24 million pre-idol whoch gets 28-35 million usually, to have an 89 mil lead-in and manage to get in the 32 million range has to be a bit disappointing for FOX. I thought it would surely get at least 40 million considering it was arguably the best House episode yet..
I would not be surprised to see them put a 1 hour episode of the Office, or an episode of Knight Rider if it makes to to the fall season.
Originally posted by Milcus: well, for NBC, if Heroes drops in numbers next year, they can put it on after the Superbowl.
But, they can also put Chuck in there as well. Get a guest star, a very interesting case (maybe something that has to do with Bryce Larkin), and see if the 30+ million it would get translate into getting 15+ million a week for a great show..
As for the numbers. I thought this would be the highest rated superbowl ever, and it was off from last year. That seems weird to me.
Also, the number for House is slightly disappointing. Considering the show does 20-24 million pre-idol whoch gets 28-35 million usually, to have an 89 mil lead-in and manage to get in the 32 million range has to be a bit disappointing for FOX. I thought it would surely get at least 40 million considering it was arguably the best House episode yet..
I would not be surprised to see them put a 1 hour episode of the Office, or an episode of Knight Rider if it makes to to the fall season.
Originally posted by spotupj: Looks like in addition to CBS, ABC also did the flipping with EM:HE at 7 and AFHV at 8. Just change the rule about in-timeslot repeats counting toward season avgs already.
I agree. Why penalize a show just because its fans don't feel the need to watch the same episodes over and over again?
Repeat ability is a strenght or weakness of a show and should be reflected in the data.
Originally posted by Milcus: well, for NBC, if Heroes drops in numbers next year, they can put it on after the Superbowl.
But, they can also put Chuck in there as well. Get a guest star, a very interesting case (maybe something that has to do with Bryce Larkin), and see if the 30+ million it would get translate into getting 15+ million a week for a great show..
As for the numbers. I thought this would be the highest rated superbowl ever, and it was off from last year. That seems weird to me.
Also, the number for House is slightly disappointing. Considering the show does 20-24 million pre-idol whoch gets 28-35 million usually, to have an 89 mil lead-in and manage to get in the 32 million range has to be a bit disappointing for FOX. I thought it would surely get at least 40 million considering it was arguably the best House episode yet..
I would not be surprised to see them put a 1 hour episode of the Office, or an episode of Knight Rider if it makes to to the fall season.
My bet is Heroes
Its quality has definitely gone down, but I think an hour My Name is Earl may be good. It has very broad appeal. I think he has more potential than the Office of being a mass appeal hit. I think the Office is a better sitcom, but I know some people who just will never watch it or get into it b/c of the format.
My prediction is that NBC will go with a special Super Bowl edition of Deal Or No Deal.
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Originally posted by trebek: Its quality has definitely gone down, but I think an hour My Name is Earl may be good. It has very broad appeal. I think he has more potential than the Office of being a mass appeal hit. I think the Office is a better sitcom, but I know some people who just will never watch it or get into it b/c of the format.
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A Series FINALE? That's crazy, you waste the chance of launching a successful show, that could bloom, and lift them out of their funk. That's a long shot, but to put ER there would be idiotic to ruin that chance
The Office comes to mind at the show NBC will air post Super Bowl next year.
Oh No! Please no more 1 hour episodes of the office the 1 - hour episodes are terrible. It's like they leave in all the stuff that isn't funny that they normally edit out of the half-hour episodes
Wow, House only got 29 million -- couldn't even crack 30 million. That must be disappointing for Fox. To see only such a relatively small increase, they may have been better suited trying SCC there -- it already did very solid numbers in its premiere following a playoff game.