Originally posted by TV-aholic: That's All??? I know its only 5-5.5 hours of programming, but those numbers will be huge. I would have thought the bump would be bigger than that.
NBC's numbers will be absoluely horrid come may then.
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Originally posted by Zedman2: I think NBC will only gain three tenths of point (.3) in ytd averages after Super Bowl Sunday. They will be ahead of ABC (temporarily), but I think FOX and CBS will still be ahead of NBC when all is said and done come Monday.
I'm expecting a bump closer to .45 for the NBC season to date.
I think if they maintain the 4+ ratings of right now its not out of the question they'll be ahead by 1.5. 2 sounds a little extreme but if Thursdays and Fridays stay strong and they keep Sundays fresh, they'll be just fine.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I would not be surprised if FOX is at least 1.5 points ahead of second place. Could they even push it to 2 points?
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: And that number will continue to get larger and larger for Fox, perhaps as large as a whole ratings point.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Yes, once THIS weeks numbers have been completed, CBS should be about a 0.1 point behind FOX, in 3rd Place. NBC should jump to first on the shoulders of the Super Bowl
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I thought this week with the help of AI, FOX pulled ahead in the 18 to 49 season demos, while CBS was way ahead of the other two. I'll have to re-examine the numbers.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Lets not forget that CBS is currently tied with FOX for the 18-49 Demo lead and is 10% ahead of ABC.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: That's All??? I know its only 5-5.5 hours of programming, but those numbers will be huge. I would have thought the bump would be bigger than that.
NBC's numbers will be absoluely horrid come may then.
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Originally posted by Zedman2: I think NBC will only gain three tenths of point (.3) in ytd averages after Super Bowl Sunday. They will be ahead of ABC (temporarily), but I think FOX and CBS will still be ahead of NBC when all is said and done come Monday.
But your averaging these numbers over the past 19 weeks. And it's only the difference between what NBC averages for the week and what everyone does. I think NBC will only finish the week with a demo rating between 8.0 and 8.3 with FOX the closest at about 4.2, CBS 2.3 and ABC 2.0
Originally posted by TV-aholic: A 2.0 for a displaced repeat, at 8pm, against American idol is Terrible? It was #2 for the hour.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: CM had a 2.0 demo for that repeat. That's terrible.
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Originally posted by Cheetara86: Good numbers for a Criminal Minds repeat..close to 10 million...I think CBS found a replacement, when Survivor is off the air...just put CM repeats ahead of CSI.
And don't forget, no promo at all for that repeat and I mean not one mention. So 2.0 for that repeat is good, actually it is almost as good as what BBT got on 01/01/09 6.51 M 2.2/6. and lets look at what a repeat of 30 rock did 2.2 and that show is skewing much younger than CM and oh look at Grey's 1.7, that is horrible and that show just like 30Rock wasn't out of its usual time slot. So yes CM did as well.
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I think Supernatural should get an honorable mention.
Not only is it (not counting Sports inflated Fast Nationals) its 2nd highest performance this season. It best any performance of last year. It also beat all but one Spring performance in the 2006/2007 season (one episode in April managed a 3.78 Fast National score, but with a worse 18-49 demo number 1.4).
And for January you have to go all the way back to its 1st season (Jan 2006) when it aired on Tuesday to see a January result that is better.
I think that is far and above how most shows scored in direct comparison to their own previous levels of performance.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: A 2.0 for a displaced repeat, at 8pm, against American idol is Terrible? It was #2 for the hour.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: CM had a 2.0 demo for that repeat. That's terrible.
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Originally posted by Cheetara86: Good numbers for a Criminal Minds repeat..close to 10 million...I think CBS found a replacement, when Survivor is off the air...just put CM repeats ahead of CSI.
And don't forget, no promo at all for that repeat and I mean not one mention. So 2.0 for that repeat is good, actually it is almost as good as what BBT got on 01/01/09 6.51 M 2.2/6. and lets look at what a repeat of 30 rock did 2.2 and that show is skewing much younger than CM and oh look at Grey's 1.7, that is horrible and that show just like 30Rock wasn't out of its usual time slot. So yes CM did as well.
I'm sure ABC is happy with Greys 5.0+ demos for original installments. They can handle the the low rated repeats which they'll likely make up for in online views and DVD sales.
They needed to synchronize the eps up for the crossover starting next week. What they could've done is air a 2 hour Ugly Betty last night so they could get that show's season completed before their new Thursday comedies debut.
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Originally posted by little_big_man: Why has ABC aired a PP original after a GA repeat? That's not very clever, is it?
Or did they have to synchronize the shows for the upcoming crossover episodes in February?
Originally posted by TV-aholic: A 2.0 for a displaced repeat, at 8pm, against American idol is Terrible? It was #2 for the hour.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: CM had a 2.0 demo for that repeat. That's terrible.
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Originally posted by Cheetara86: Good numbers for a Criminal Minds repeat..close to 10 million...I think CBS found a replacement, when Survivor is off the air...just put CM repeats ahead of CSI.
And don't forget, no promo at all for that repeat and I mean not one mention. So 2.0 for that repeat is good, actually it is almost as good as what BBT got on 01/01/09 6.51 M 2.2/6. and lets look at what a repeat of 30 rock did 2.2 and that show is skewing much younger than CM and oh look at Grey's 1.7, that is horrible and that show just like 30Rock wasn't out of its usual time slot. So yes CM did as well.
I'm sure ABC is happy with Greys 5.0+ demos for original installments. They can handle the the low rated repeats which they'll likely make up for in online views and DVD sales.
We are not talking about what Grey does when it is an original episode. You said CM did horrible with a 2.0 for a repeat. I pointed to you that no, Grey's did worse, far worse since Grey's was in it's usual timeslot unlike CM.
As for online viewers and DVD's that mean nothing when it comes to demo and ratings, we all know that it is the live+same day DVR viewing that count when the add rates are sets.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: A 2.0 for a displaced repeat, at 8pm, against American idol is Terrible? It was #2 for the hour.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: CM had a 2.0 demo for that repeat. That's terrible.
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Originally posted by Cheetara86: Good numbers for a Criminal Minds repeat..close to 10 million...I think CBS found a replacement, when Survivor is off the air...just put CM repeats ahead of CSI.
And don't forget, no promo at all for that repeat and I mean not one mention. So 2.0 for that repeat is good, actually it is almost as good as what BBT got on 01/01/09 6.51 M 2.2/6. and lets look at what a repeat of 30 rock did 2.2 and that show is skewing much younger than CM and oh look at Grey's 1.7, that is horrible and that show just like 30Rock wasn't out of its usual time slot. So yes CM did as well.
I'm sure ABC is happy with Greys 5.0+ demos for original installments. They can handle the the low rated repeats which they'll likely make up for in online views and DVD sales.
We are not talking about what Grey does when it is an original episode. You said CM did horrible with a 2.0 for a repeat. I pointed to you that no, Grey's did worse, far worse since Grey's was in it's usual timeslot unlike CM.
As for online viewers and DVD's that mean nothing when it comes to demo and ratings, we all know that it is the live+same day DVR viewing that count when the add rates are sets.
You are correct on the ad rates and how they are set and I never said Greys did well in that repeat. I wonder myself why ABC repeats these shows at all sometimes. In terms of that online and DVD sales stuff, they may not affect ad rates, but they're still sources of revenue for the nets.
Originally posted by DEMOS: we all know that it is the live+same day DVR viewing that count when the add rates are sets.
Close. It is the 'C3' ratings that matter for ad rates, but the public doesn't usually get to see the 'C3' data. 'C3' data is a measure of the 18-49 demographic that sees the commercial segments within a TV show either as they air or within 3 days of airing.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: A 2.0 for a displaced repeat, at 8pm, against American idol is Terrible? It was #2 for the hour.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: CM had a 2.0 demo for that repeat. That's terrible.
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Originally posted by Cheetara86: Good numbers for a Criminal Minds repeat..close to 10 million...I think CBS found a replacement, when Survivor is off the air...just put CM repeats ahead of CSI.
And don't forget, no promo at all for that repeat and I mean not one mention. So 2.0 for that repeat is good, actually it is almost as good as what BBT got on 01/01/09 6.51 M 2.2/6. and lets look at what a repeat of 30 rock did 2.2 and that show is skewing much younger than CM and oh look at Grey's 1.7, that is horrible and that show just like 30Rock wasn't out of its usual time slot. So yes CM did as well.
I'm sure ABC is happy with Greys 5.0+ demos for original installments. They can handle the the low rated repeats which they'll likely make up for in online views and DVD sales.
We are not talking about what Grey does when it is an original episode. You said CM did horrible with a 2.0 for a repeat. I pointed to you that no, Grey's did worse, far worse since Grey's was in it's usual timeslot unlike CM.
As for online viewers and DVD's that mean nothing when it comes to demo and ratings, we all know that it is the live+same day DVR viewing that count when the add rates are sets.
You are correct on the ad rates and how they are set and I never said Greys did well in that repeat. I wonder myself why ABC repeats these shows at all sometimes. In terms of that online and DVD sales stuff, they may not affect ad rates, but they're still sources of revenue for the nets.
True, the dvd's sales add to the profit a show makes. As for why does ABC schedule repeat of Grey's at all, I don't know, it doesn't do them any good and it did influenced PP ratings. Why not air some special? I am sure they can come up with something, anything that is better than this.
Originally posted by DEMOS: we all know that it is the live+same day DVR viewing that count when the add rates are sets.
Close. It is the 'C3' ratings that matter for ad rates, but the public doesn't usually get to see the 'C3' data. 'C3' data is a measure of the 18-49 demographic that sees the commercial segments within a TV show either as they air or within 3 days of airing.
