Originally posted by Devilz_0: isnt it funny that almost everyone on here predicted abc would go down to last place in everything, even in the demo
Not me -- I had them in 2nd in the demo and 3rd in viewers (in dumont's sweeps prediction game). However, I wasn't the only one, and I think there are others that were even closer. I think looking at those predictions, most folks really overestimated on CBS, but many got the other 3 fairly close...
This is what I was talking about, for those unfamiliar with dumont's prediction game:
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Originally posted by dumont: Let the February Sweep begin.
The following are the PIF-15, the 15 predictors of the outcome of the upcoming Sweep, perhaps the most difficult to guage in the history of Sweep measurement due to the paucity of fresh episodes arising from the WGA strike. In our collective wisdom, it will be a FOX romp, with a very tight race for second where it will be 2nd for CBS, 3rd for NBC and 4th for ABC. MyNetworkTV in 6th will continue to pull nearer to 5th place The CW.
Here are the 15 entrants who submitted entries before 8 am this morn:
In scoring the Sweep Predictions Game, I'll use the same methodology as Douglas uses in the Daily Game (ranking top to bottom). Since there are many ties in the demo, the real differences will be in the viewer predictions.
My daily Sweep reporting is based on daily FAST nationals, which are then revised to finals when published by travisyanan / exmalibu / pavanbadal. For viewers, I will round off to a thousand basis points (as above), and for the demo I will round off to a tenth basis point (as above).
Originally posted by robert: Yeah but still ANTM has pretty much stayed around 5 million for a long time. It's very strange 1-1.5 million individuals got tired all of a sudden of the show.
Could be burnout from ANTM being on VH1 about every other hour.
Tyra Banks must really be raking in the dough from the MTV/VH1 'syndication' as well as the 100+ rebroadcast territories and the 15 international versions of the show.
Wouldnt it be better to move it and drop the Monday night one and just put that crappy show Farmer Wants a Wife on?
My Thoughts:
MONDAY: 8- Repeats of Gossip Girl 9- Farmer Wants a Wife
WEDNESDAY: 8- America's Next Top Model 9- Pussycat Dolls (New Episodes)
My answer:
Good idea, but I think their main reason is avoiding Idol, which doesn't air on Mondays. However, Idol's regular results airtime is on Wednesdays @ 9pm, which would be in direct competition with Idol each week. Now, your point is still somewhat valid in that the last couple of weeks the Wednesday rerun did better on Wednesdays following ANTM and oppositve Idol than the original does on Mondays, without the ANTM lead-in, even though it doesn't have to compete with Idol.
It looks like America's Next Top Model, Wife Swap, and Big Brother ended in a 3-way tie at 2.0 for the 18-49 demo. I predict that America's Next top Model will beat both of them next week and likely DoND as well.
Originally posted by Obveeus: It looks like America's Next Top Model, Wife Swap, and Big Brother ended in a 3-way tie at 2.0 for the 18-49 demo. I predict that America's Next top Model will beat both of them next week and likely DoND as well.
You're probably right but I think Top Model is starting to get over the hump and is now on the downhill slide.
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FOX Cleans Up With Record-Breaking Numbers to End the 2008 February Sweep:
After four weeks of the 2008 February Sweep, FOX has cleaned up against the other networks with a record-breaking first place across all key measures.
The FOX victory was generated by the enormous, record-breaking Super Bowl numbers, the powerhouse American Idol numbers, and reliable ratings strength on every other night.
In the young audience A18-49 demo that advertisers crave for ad placement, FOX finished the Sweep with a 6.86 in A18-49, which rounds to 6.9. This level was just a notch under the high mark of 7.0 in A18-49 that FOX previously established in the 2005 February Sweep.
FOX ended the Sweep with the most nightly wins, having beaten the other networks on 18 nights (includes one tie with NBC), followed by ABC and NBC both with five nightly wins (one NBC win was a tie with FOX) and CBS trailing behind with only a single nightly win (The Grammy Awards). The FOX demo domination was so widespread that the network won every single Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday of the Sweep in the A18-49 demo, plus winning one Thursday and one Sunday. The only night on which FOX could not triumph was Monday.
It was a real donnybrook for second place across demo, households and viewership. In the A18-49 demo, ABC ended up in second place with a 2.7, NBC in third with 2.5, CBS fourth with 2.2, The CW fifth with 0.9 and MyNetworkTV is sixth with 0.5. ABC, NBC, CBS and The CW all hit record A18-49 lows for the February Sweep, while MyNetworkTV showed growth over last year.
In households, FOX triumphed with a record-setting 9.6HH, which was above its previous February Sweep high of 9.3HH in 2005. CBS held on to second place throughout the entire Sweep and finished with a 5.3HH average, while ABC was in third with a 5.1HH average, NBC in fourth with a 4.8HH average, The CW fifth with a 1.5HH average, and MyNetworkTV last with a 0.8HH average. CBS, ABC, NBC and The CW all set record lows in households for the February Sweep, while MyNetworkTV was up over last years benchmark number.
In viewership, the fight for second place saw the ranking change several times over the last few days of the Sweep, but in the end, CBS tenaciously hung on to second place with a 8.111 million viewer average, besting ABC by a mere 17,000 viewers. ABC finished third with 8.094 million viewers, while NBC wasn't too far behind in fourth with 7.574 million viewers. The CW ended the Sweep with a 2.338 million viewer average, and MyNetworkTV was last with a 1.202 million viewer average.
At the end of the Sweep, the two News Corporation networks FOX and MyNetworkTV both finished with solid double-digit improvement over their numbers from last year. All the remaining networks are showing significant double-digit year-over-year declines, with NBC showing the least year-over-year slippage (-13% in demo, -11% in households, and -10% in viewers) while CBS, who were last year's Super Bowl broadcaster, is faring worst (-54% in demo, -43% in households, -48% in viewers) due to its large proportion of encore programming as a result of the writers strike.
After four weeks of Sweep, the six networks showed smaller-than-expected (given the combined effect of the writers strike and increased use of DVR's) year-over-year erosion: the young adult demo down by -14%, households are down by -13% on a year-over-year basis, while viewership is down by -11% year-over-year.
nights nights
demo web demo demo % won won
Rank web 2008 2007 chg 2008 2007
1 FOX 6.86 5.15 33% 18 14
2 ABC 2.68 3.75 -28% 5 6
3 NBC 2.47 2.83 -13% 5
4 CBS 2.24 4.88 -54% 1 8
5 CW 0.90 1.31 -31%
6 MNT 0.46 0.27 70%
total 15.61 18.19 -14% 29 28
nights nights
HH web HH HH HH won won
rank web 2008 2007 chg 2008 2007
1 FOX 9.6 7.4 30% 15 9
2 CBS 5.3 9.2 -43% 5 14
3 ABC 5.1 6.4 -20% 5 4
4 NBC 4.8 5.5 -11% 5 2
5 CW 1.5 2.1 -27%
6 MNT 0.8 0.5 46%
total 27.2 31.1 -13% 30 29
nights nights
viewers web viewers viewers viewers won won
rank web 2008 2007 chg 2008 2007
1 FOX 17.816 12.687 40% 15 9
2 CBS 8.111 15.468 -48% 4 14
3 ABC 8.094 10.055 -20% 5 4
4 NBC 7.574 8.373 -10% 4 1
5 CW 2.338 3.276 -29%
6 MNT 1.202 0.790 52%
total 45.14 50.65 -11% 28 28
This years and last years numbers are based upon final Nielsen numbers except for last nights household numbers which are based upon FAST National data.