Originally posted by TravisYanan: I'm actually surprised that Top Model stayed at the level it was at last week. It's like all of a sudden between cycles 1.5 million people got tired of it. Next week is the typically high-rated makeover week... who'd have thought the day would come so soon that we'd be wondering if Top Model could break 4 million?
It's the old "tree falling in the forest" adage: there's nothing else on CW pulling in viewers, so there's less overall viewers to tell them that "the tree is falling." The viewers have left the CW forest, so ANTP isn't making much of a sound...
Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Even a small drop means that you are losing some steam. A large drop means that you are losing a lot of steam. Whether a little or a lot, you are still losing it.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Huh? If you're doing worse, you're losing steam. Same thing.
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Originally posted by robert: Well CSI NY is down from last year, CSI Miami is also a little down, while CSI is doing better. Overall the CSI franchise is doing just a little worse than last year, but i wouldn't say that CSI franchise is losing steam.
A small drop does not mean it's losing steam. Losing steam means significant drops year after year.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Agreed. I think the mothership will rebound pretty well, but I've thought NY was just one problem away from losing substantial steam. Could that be happening now? I guess we'll find out. Nevertheless, these are summerlike if not worse repeat numbers for these CBS dramas despite less competition than usual.
How long have you "thought This"??? 12, 18 months now?
Yes, the 3 monts of repeats are starting to take their toll ans I think its is a good compairison with Summer Numbers. But the competition is stronger now than the summer.
The shows will rebound just fine come April. Plus, we are only 17 days away from the return of BBT!!!
With all these droplets, is there a water problem with these shows???
Anyone have a dehumidifier ????
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Even a small drop means that you are losing some steam. A large drop means that you are losing a lot of steam. Whether a little or a lot, you are still losing it.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Huh? If you're doing worse, you're losing steam. Same thing.
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Originally posted by robert: Well CSI NY is down from last year, CSI Miami is also a little down, while CSI is doing better. Overall the CSI franchise is doing just a little worse than last year, but i wouldn't say that CSI franchise is losing steam.
A small drop does not mean it's losing steam. Losing steam means significant drops year after year.
Originally posted by TravisYanan: I'm actually surprised that Top Model stayed at the level it was at last week. It's like all of a sudden between cycles 1.5 million people got tired of it. Next week is the typically high-rated makeover week... who'd have thought the day would come so soon that we'd be wondering if Top Model could break 4 million?
It's the old "tree falling in the forest" adage: there's nothing else on CW pulling in viewers, so there's less overall viewers to tell them that "the tree is falling." The viewers have left the CW forest, so ANTP isn't making much of a sound...
Yeah but still ANTM has pretty much stayed around 5 million for a long time. It's very strange 1-1.5 million individuals got tired all of a sudden of the show.
Originally posted by Jay: Overall, I think that “Big Brother: ‘til Death Do You Part” has held up reasonably well in its first (and hopefully last) foray into the regular traditional season. Thru the first eight episodes, BB9 is averaging roughly 6.06 million viewers and a 2.2 rating in the adults 18-49 demographic.
Comparably, thru the first eight episodes of BB8 last summer (July – Sept.), the series averaged roughly 6.61 million viewers and a 2.5 rating in the young adults demographic.
That means that BB9 has lost only around 500,000 viewers from the summer edition of BB8 – at least thru the first eight installments. Keep in mind that BB9 has faced much stiffer competition than its summer time counterpart last year (i.e. “American Idol” on Fox and the Oscars). Given that fact, and knowing that BB never set ratings records in during its summer runs, CBS has to be relieved that the aging franchise is holding up as well as it has been.
It should be noted that BB8 aired on a Tue/Thu/Sun rotation while BB9 has shifted slightly to a Tue/Wed/Sun airing schedule.
In addition, the ratings will likely increase when Idol reduces to one hour on Tuesday and moves to 9PM on Wednesday.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: I'm actually surprised that Top Model stayed at the level it was at last week. It's like all of a sudden between cycles 1.5 million people got tired of it. Next week is the typically high-rated makeover week... who'd have thought the day would come so soon that we'd be wondering if Top Model could break 4 million?
It's the old "tree falling in the forest" adage: there's nothing else on CW pulling in viewers, so there's less overall viewers to tell them that "the tree is falling." The viewers have left the CW forest, so ANTP isn't making much of a sound...
Yeah but still ANTM has pretty much stayed around 5 million for a long time. It's very strange 1-1.5 million individuals got tired all of a sudden of the show.
Could be burnout from ANTM being on VH1 about every other hour.
Originally posted by TravisYanan: I'm actually surprised that Top Model stayed at the level it was at last week. It's like all of a sudden between cycles 1.5 million people got tired of it.
I think there are 2 main reasons for this. 1. ANTM is going up against Idol female singers this time around. and doing it several episodes earlier in Idol's schedule than last year. 2. Last season's loss by favorite heather and win by Tyra 'plant' left a bitter taste in some viewers' minds.
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Next week is the typically high-rated makeover week...
Yes it is. The makeover episode transforms the cast into 'model looks' and is usually one of the highest (if not the highest) rated episode of the season. If the ratings don't jump to 4.5M+, this cycle is in trouble.
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who'd have thought the day would come so soon that we'd be wondering if Top Model could break 4 million?
CW has the highest percentage of viewers using DVRs. I'd expect that ANTM is going to be adding 20%+ to their viewer numbers when that data comes out.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Agreed. I think the mothership will rebound pretty well, but I've thought NY was just one problem away from losing substantial steam. Could that be happening now? I guess we'll find out. Nevertheless, these are summerlike if not worse repeat numbers for these CBS dramas despite less competition than usual.
How long have you "thought This"??? 12, 18 months now?
Yes, the 3 monts of repeats are starting to take their toll ans I think its is a good compairison with Summer Numbers. But the competition is stronger now than the summer.
The shows will rebound just fine come April. Plus, we are only 17 days away from the return of BBT!!!
I too look forward to the Big Bang Theory but I'm not going to go out of my way to say it will do excellent at 8pm. It really deserved more time in the easier 8:30 slot before being pushed into an 8pm role. As for CSI, I think the overexposure will begin to start taking its toll. And I've only been saying that since the end of last season.
Originally posted by TravisYanan: I'm actually surprised that Top Model stayed at the level it was at last week. It's like all of a sudden between cycles 1.5 million people got tired of it. Next week is the typically high-rated makeover week... who'd have thought the day would come so soon that we'd be wondering if Top Model could break 4 million?
It's the old "tree falling in the forest" adage: there's nothing else on CW pulling in viewers, so there's less overall viewers to tell them that "the tree is falling." The viewers have left the CW forest, so ANTP isn't making much of a sound...
Yeah but still ANTM has pretty much stayed around 5 million for a long time. It's very strange 1-1.5 million individuals got tired all of a sudden of the show.
But the CW has fallen significantly as a network since last Fall, when ANTM had the higher ratings. I'm saying that even by CW standards, there's been a sharp drop off since the Fall, and unlike the big networks, they don't have the huge events to bring them back. ANTM was their best chance, and it has not worked.
FOX: American Idol... enough said. NBC: Deal or no Deal was waaaaay down. CI is just there and Law and Order save the night. ABC: Supernanny and Wifeswap are the only bright spots. Put 20/20 at 10:00 please CBS: Very poor demos. Old skewing like always.
isnt it funny that almost everyone on here predicted abc would go down to last place in everything, even in the demo
but somehow abc, even though they aired the least watched oscar telecast for feb sweeps, and even though all of their shows repeat horribly, has managed to snag the no. 2 slot in the demo and viewers
even though there is a big chance that abc will become 3rd in viewers, it will still win in the demo, which is more valuable to advertisers
Originally posted by lopez: FOX: American Idol... enough said. NBC: Deal or no Deal was waaaaay down. CI is just there and Law and Order save the night. ABC: Supernanny and Wifeswap are the only bright spots. Put 20/20 at 10:00 please CBS: Very poor demos. Old skewing like always.
Last Nights "Old Skewing Percentages"
NBC - only 26.7% Demo to Viewers CBS - only 30.1% Demo to Viewers ABC - only 36.6% Demo to Viewers FOX - only 37.7% Demo to Viewers
Of course, what does this all mean???? Absolutely nothing. Skewing and Percentages mean nothing
Originally posted by Devilz_0: even though there is a big chance that abc will become 3rd in viewers, it will still win in the demo, which is more valuable to advertisers
And advertisers are going to pay sooo much attention to this February sweeps because it's not like there was a strike or anything.
