Originally posted by robert: No arguments, against Idol Losts' demos are good. But the viewing numbers are really bad
I'm sorry. How are mid 10s and probably close to 11 in the finals "really bad"? Just curious as to your reasoning. Both numbers are a little above last week, when AI was 2hrs, and a little below 2 weeks ago. Lost has its audience. It's not changing a whole lot except for shifts between live and recorded/web viewing. What more can ABC expect at this point?
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: If there is a lesson to be learned, it is to stop remaking old classic series. They don’t work! Remember the remakes of Family Affair, Little House on the Prairie, The Love Boat, Fantasy Island and Get Smart?
Stop making stupid remakes of classic shows might be better advice.
Yep. A TV show remake can be great if it's well made. Unfortunately, few of them are. Often, the execs seem to think the familiar title and characters with familiar names are all they need to be big hits. (The actual writing, storylines and such being secondary...if that.) And, no matter how often this has proven not to be true, they keep doing it.
I think the TV execs have caught whatever disease studio execs have had for years. It is "safe" to greenlight remakes of old TV shows (ie: "I won't get fired if they fail").
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ABC hasn't even been promoting "Lost" during its other primetime shows in the past 3 weeks or so. I guess they're using the space to promote their probable upcoming flops.
But what was 4-year-old (ish) Charlotte doing in 1974 when last season Ben gave her birth year as 1979? And it can't be one of her sisters because Charlotte was the oldest.
Faraday was still clearly destraught over her death when he saw a red-head girl who he assumed was Charlotte. That's not to say that that was Charlotte.
There was a Get Smart and Little House remake? When?
FOX did a 'Get Smart' re-make in the early '90s that had Mr. Don Adams and Miss Barbara Feldon reprising their roles, even though the series focused on their klutzy son.
ABC did a re-make of 'Little House on the Prairie' just a few seasons back that ran in May on Saturday nights for 5 or 6 episodes. It was a little grittier than the original, but as I remember, the Nielsens were not auspicious, especially for original programming on a Saturday night.
Originally posted by Sorcerer8605: I didn't understand what was happening on LOST at first, but when I got it, it was brilliant! :-)
SPOILERY!
We start where we left off TWO weeks ago (LAST week was a flashback). Locke has just gone into the well, and the island has shifted again, sealing the well; Locke has then turned the wheel and escaped the island.
Meanwhile, the rest of the islanders are still there, outside the well, and they realize that Locke succeeded (he got the island to stop shifting). But they come to find out they are trapped in 1974. Charlotte is dead, her body gone. They pick up the pieces with Faraday, because he's distraught about Charlotte, then run across the 1974 Dharma Initiative and The Others. They help the Dharma Initiative woman escape, and she double-crosses them.
But our heroes ultimately gain the trust of the Dharma Initiative, and they live with them, become part of them. They live in that 1974 timeline for 3 years (because essentially, for THEM, it has only been a few days since the Oceanic 6 escaped, so they are still "3 years ago," and now they are even further back). This means that, when the Oceanic 6 finally return, it has been 3 years, and for most of those 3 years, those left behind have been trapped in 1974-7, because the island stopped shifting when it landed on 1974.
Now, the question is if they all leave the island now, will they return to the present, or will they be in the 1977 world?
I thought it was awesome. :-)
Here's another attempt at explanation:
1974 to 1977- The islanders shift to this timeline just before Locke turns the wheel and makes the time shifts stop permanently, just before he leaves the island. So they're stuck there. After gaining the Darhma Initiative's trust, they live here from 1974 to 1977, which is when some of the Oceanic 6 return (they have come FROM 2007, having left the island in 2004). This is where we end the episode, still stuck in the past from the last time shift. Basically, what it boils down to, and what makes things so confusing, is that we have only seen a FRACTION of what the islanders went through after the Oceanic 6 left them for 3 years. It has been a few days of skipping around in time, and then they have landed in 1974, living there for the 3 years until the Oceanic 6 return in 2007, which is 1977 for them.
2007- The episode two weeks ago had the Oceanic 6 getting on a plane and winding up back on the island. It has been 3 years since they left the island in 2004. When they arrive at the island, they are in 1977, 3 full years after those left behind stopped moving around (because, as I said above, they really only shifted times for a few days, I think).
Grr. It hurts my brain, but I love this show!
I don't believe everyone that was on the plane are in the same timeline. The folks on the smaller island (which would include Locke and Ben) where the Hydra Station is located may still be in 2007.
Speaking of re-makes, I'm surprised that CBS hasn't tried to revive their 'Dallas'/'Knots Landing' franchise with a series focused on the next generation.
I would love to see a series that fused together these two CBS classics into 'The Ewings', and focused on John Ross, Christopher, James Richard, Betsy and Bobby (and Lucy too, as she's the eldest of the next generation...I wonder if she'd still be written as a hosebag?). They could invite back all the original cast members as occasional guest stars.
This is the sort of series that could do well for CBS, pulling in the A18-34s for the new generation stories, but still draw the A35+'s for the little plot extensions out of the original 'Dallas'/'Knots Landing' storylines.
J.R. perhaps wondering just what was to become of John Ross?
Originally posted by SayWhat12: ABC hasn't even been promoting "Lost" during its other primetime shows in the past 3 weeks or so. I guess they're using the space to promote their probable upcoming flops.
There's been lots of promos for LOST and they even have aired had 10 second teasers before commercials (LOST Wednesday nights at 9pm showing just the cast members).
ABC did a re-make of 'Little House on the Prairie' just a few seasons back that ran in May on Saturday nights for 5 or 6 episodes. It was a little grittier than the original, but as I remember, the Nielsens were not auspicious, especially for original programming on a Saturday night.
I thought that was based on the original books, but I may be mistaken.
But what was 4-year-old (ish) Charlotte doing in 1974 when last season Ben gave her birth year as 1979? And it can't be one of her sisters because Charlotte was the oldest.
Faraday was still clearly destraught over her death when he saw a red-head girl who he assumed was Charlotte. That's not to say that that was Charlotte.
There was a Get Smart and Little House remake? When?
FOX did a 'Get Smart' re-make in the early '90s that had Mr. Don Adams and Miss Barbara Feldon reprising their roles, even though the series focused on their klutzy son.
ABC did a re-make of 'Little House on the Prairie' just a few seasons back that ran in May on Saturday nights for 5 or 6 episodes. It was a little grittier than the original, but as I remember, the Nielsens were not auspicious, especially for original programming on a Saturday night.
Wasn't Max's son played by Andy Dick? That was his first role as far as I know.
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Wow, i guess we oficially only have 3 big networks. NBC's decision to already renew Heroes proves this network won't get very soon out of the barrel in which it has been for the past years. How can you renew already a show that's dropping like a rocket. What will happen if in a month it'll get 2.5 in demos, which is a possibility? Still good for NBC? I would've expected at best a 13 episodes final run. Get this show out of its misery already I cannot wait for next season, with Leno 5 days in primetime and without a true hit on its schedule, NBC might hit a horrific low in its history. Why are these guys still running this network?
The only way CBS would do this these days is if the Ewings gave up the oil business and began solving crimes.
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Originally posted by dumont: Speaking of re-makes, I'm surprised that CBS hasn't tried to revive their 'Dallas'/'Knots Landing' franchise with a series focused on the next generation.
I would love to see a series that fused together these two CBS classics into 'The Ewings', and focused on John Ross, Christopher, James Richard, Betsy and Bobby (and Lucy too, as she's the eldest of the next generation...I wonder if she'd still be written as a hosebag?). They could invite back all the original cast members as occasional guest stars.
This is the sort of series that could do well for CBS, pulling in the A18-34s for the new generation stories, but still draw the A35+'s for the little plot extensions out of the original 'Dallas'/'Knots Landing' storylines.
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