Ratings for last night are pretty much what I expected. I expected ER to end up in third, even though I watched most of it. It has lost the characters that draw viewers in. I am a fan of Abby, but how many more men and problems can Neela get involved in. Stamos is supposed to be the savior, but I think it's too little too late.
I watched some of the BS premiere - not bad, not great. Wouldn't make me sad if they cancelled it.
I don't think The Office holds up very well at an hour. Some episodes are worthy of such extensions (The last two finales, the Christmas episode, The Negotiation), but last night felt too stretched. Still, that it posted what according to Medialife is a series high in the Demo up against the biggest show in said Demo is truly amazing. I really hope it holds up.
And Smallville is now the biggest show on The CW. I'd say that's worthy of being a winner.
What's wrong with "Ugly Betty?" Freshman hangover? "The Office" rocks. And "CSI" and "Grey's" continue their spirited battle. And yeah, it's time for "ER: The Next Generation" to go.
Good bye Big Shots hello October Road! I know people want to put Men In Trees there, but it really is a perfect spot for OR as seen last season.
And I think the Reaper numbers might lend credence to the thought that perhaps the CW should have put it after Smallville regardless of people's attachment to Supernatural. However given that there is no other real place for SN on the schedule, probably a smart move to leave it where it was. But it could open it up to a Reaper/SN pairing next season if SV is cancelled (which creators are now leaning towards an 8th season), or if SV is kept for the next season, Reaper move into Thursday if it sustains viewers and move SN off to a new night with a new complimentary partner picked up during development.
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Posts: 912 | Location: Utah | Registered: 21 February 2007
I would say Smallville is definitley a winner as well. Last year's premiere had 4.96 million. Anything like that pr what SV got last night has to be a major plus for the CW. Hopefully, it will stay strong and consistent and Supernatural follows suit.
Posts: 87 | Location: Spokane, WA | Registered: 15 January 2007
Originally posted by JONNYSBRO: Marc I know you are not a big Grey's fan. Remember you cannot compare season premieres. Last season's was so much more hyped. It had a six million dollar marketing, The Fray's How to save a life, the move to Thursday's and much more buzzed. It fell in the ratings. Also CSI's episode was very hyped because of Sara. Marc do you know what ABC used to do before Grey's came along on Thursday's? Does Night Stalker ring a bill or the 2.0 to 4.0 DOA it used to recieve? Grey's has been ABC's savior for the night. Also while Big Shots dropped, it was no different from other series that premiered in the slot. It actually did better then Six Degrees because Grey's was much higher when SD premiered. Big Shots dropped and it was not as bad as I thought it would be. It had promise.
Posts: 409 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 09 November 2006
just saw Reaper -- The best pilot i've seen so far -- too bad that this show is on the CW. More people should see it.
Anyone think that Reaper may suffer due to the loss of Kevin Smith's direction? (Both creatively and viewer-wise.) From what I know, after the pilot, Kevin Smith has no association with the show.
A nice performance from UB (up from late last season) and a good one from The Office too.
UB was fantastic last night and kept marching on, bringing both the funny and the sadness. I didn't see the Santos thing coming at all. As for The Office, it sees to have perfected the idea of the one hour episode for a sitcom. I guess it's because it doesn't rely on set-up + punchline as the humour completely comes from the situation. Fantastic last night - utterly fantastic. I liked how they toned down Angela's bitchiness in lieu of her grief - she is my favorite character. But Michael... I'm really starting to dislike him and he's sort of turning me off the show.
Last night I watched Grey's Anatomy live and DVR'd The Office. I watched The Office immediately after Grey's Anatomy ended.
Both were incredibly good in their own right. That opening sequence on The Office was pure genious! And Grey's Anatomy was great as usual.
Maybe one week I'll watch The Office live and Grey's via DVR. Who knows? But I do know one thing, while you all are bickering over the ratings, I'm going to enjoy two very good series.
Posts: 533 | Location: Ohio | Registered: 22 September 2006
Ugly Betty's numbers were up from last spring. It has settled in these numbers but I loved the premiere last night. Much better then the latter episodes of last season. Glad they tied alot of loose ends. The Hilda dream sequence shocked me. I thought he was alive and then shocked he was not. Also many series after Grey's have faltered in the second half. The shows usually drop at least two to three million. This retention is better then what SD did in it's premiere because Grey's was higher. Also it's demo was almost number 1. One other thing about Big Shots the amazing Rob Thomas is taking over as showrunner. He created the amazing Veronica Mars and is an amazing writer. He might be able to fix Big Shots.
I saw part of the show on tape. I'm not surprised that ratings are down a bit. Yes, it is still funny. However, I feel like every episode is the same. The plot really never goes anywhere but showing how dorky Betty can be. And after a while, that gets old. All the characters are exaggerated stereotypes that pushes believability.
Exactly--it's a telenovela, with a few borrowed trappings from Devil Wears Prada, trying to be a long-running network primetime drama. And it's just not well designed for that.
The show that can sustain itself over a long period of time isn't necessarily the better show--The Prisoner lasted 17 episodes (McGoohan wanted fewer), and it's probably the greatest television series ever. Gunsmoke had more episodes than any other American network show, and is also a classic--but frankly, the majority of its episodes aren't all that memorable, particularly over the last decade or so of its run--the formula was incredibly durable, but to what end? The greatest shows are the ones that remain great from beginning to end--no matter how long or short their runs.
There is no reason for her to be wearing those braces, year after year. She's not a teenager. They've got to come off. She can wear contacts sometimes. She can learn to wear nicer clothes that still express her personality. And she'd still be 'Ugly Betty' in that world.
That's what they did with the original Betty, and people loved it--but they knew how long that story was going to run. That's the problem with the open-ended serialized drama. They're afraid to take chances, afraid to burn story, afraid to develop the characters--but if they don't, it's like a shark that stops swimming. It drowns.
Because last season, Grey's was much more hyped. This past season there really was no cliffhanger so there was no urgency to watch last nights premiere, unlike CSI which hyped the h*ll out of whether Sara would live or die. I dont even watch the show but the previews during survivor made me almost want to record it. I assume this pulled in a few more million viewers than normal. I predict it will be much more even the next few weeks especially with office back to 30 minutes.
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Originally posted by JONNYSBRO: Marc I know you are not a big Grey's fan. Remember you cannot compare season premieres. Last season's was so much more hyped. It had a six million dollar marketing, The Fray's How to save a life, the move to Thursday's and much more buzzed. It fell in the ratings. Also CSI's episode was very hyped because of Sara. Marc do you know what ABC used to do before Grey's came along on Thursday's? Does Night Stalker ring a bill or the 2.0 to 4.0 DOA it used to recieve? Grey's has been ABC's savior for the night. Also while Big Shots dropped, it was no different from other series that premiered in the slot. It actually did better then Six Degrees because Grey's was much higher when SD premiered. Big Shots dropped and it was not as bad as I thought it would be. It had promise.
Watch out Barrybgb, and all others on the site. According to Fred Farrar and gdfriends, no one is supposed to disagree with Marc's winners/losers/etc list. They are keeping a close eye on the board and you will be reported to the PI Police if this continues. Take this as your final warning...
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Originally posted by Barrybgb: I would say Smallville is definitley a winner as well. Last year's premiere had 4.96 million. Anything like that pr what SV got last night has to be a major plus for the CW. Hopefully, it will stay strong and consistent and Supernatural follows suit.
