On the Bones thing. This is a huge move for FOX. They are now competitive on a Thursday Night that's no longer as powerful as it used to be. Bones can thrash Ugly Betty and have Survivor as its only competitor.
filmkr27, I'm scared for Christine and Gary too as its audience is the same as the DWtS was for Idol. I hate it b/c I think both shows need the whole year to establish the time period and grow some more. I think Christine and Gary for safety reason are going to have to move. If CBS is really confident with The Mentalist then they can move that to anchor Wednesdays against Idol and move the comedies behind NCIS at 9pm on Tuesdays.
Legends, I totally disagree with you. ER shouldn't have to end just b/c its been out for 15 years. As long as it still contributes in the ratings it should never have to end. Creatively you can do a lot of things with ER b/c its like a soap opera. Its different when you have a show that has actors aging and storylines going soft.
One thing NBC is going to lose is those medical genre viewers that help make GA and House ratings winners. That's why I was saying NBC is in too bad of shape to let ER go completely without resurging it with another medical drama or ER spin-off.
I do agree with you about the cop show LAPD. I think this has a chance at being a winner as the one thing NBC needs a major crime drama drawer outside of SVU. LAPD will need to debut in a slot where there's other procedurals so that it can grab all of that audience.
If 30 Rock is going to claim itself a hit like The Office claims itself to be then lets see how it performs in Earl's timeslot.
If consideration for LOM is going to be taken next week so should consideration for DSM out of Private Practice. It is completely comparable to LOM in terms of what show comes before it and what that show gets ratings wise.
But you would think that us Ratings Hungry members would love to see this data, even if it means having a little fun in the process, by playing the ratings games.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I bet the Football game drew at least 200K and 300K viewers in the Denver area.
From Douglas' Individual Market reports, Denver is one of those Markets that do Support its NFL team by watching the games. The Oct. 12th game Denver posted a 34 HH rating and a 61 share for their game.
Hmm. I wonder if I'll ever post data for the Denver market from last night. I probably won't since the forum won't play any of its games! It's a shame too since the next market posts will also include the actual household count per market. Oh well!
Oh, I agree. the numbers for the show will still be good, by CW standards, but do expect what may look like a big drop once finals come out.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Correct me if I am wrong, but if the Football game aired on the CW affiliate last night, then the Fast Nationals will reflect those inflated numbers, that will be adjusted down once finals are published.
I bet the Football game drew at least 200K and 300K viewers in the Denver area.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Smallville can lose 470,000 viewers and it will still equal its highest rated episode this year.
Originally posted by longliver: If consideration for LOM is going to be taken next week so should consideration for DSM. It is completely comparable to LOM in terms of what show comes before it and what that show gets ratings wise.
It is only fair.
This post makes no sense (I'm not saying it as a personal thing, I just don't understand your logic): aside from the fact that DSM airs after Grey's spinoff, none of the other things I mentioned about LOM exist for DSM... If you know of a reason DSM is not a loser say what those reasons are...
If ABC does this crossover right then Private Practice's ratings should swell to help Dirty Sexy Money get establish. ABC should consider moving Ugly Betty to Wednesdays at 8pm to help establish the Wednesday Night lineup now that PD is a goner.
Denver is a great NFL market on TV and by last night's being a night game it will probably have a 60-70 share last night in the ratings, which means if you live in the Denver metro area then you're more than likely to watch the Broncos.
I remember the days back in the 70s and 80s when ratings were predicated heavily on shares. Like 60 and 70 shares.
CW Thursday ratings will go down alot in the finals.
Originally posted by Douglas: Hmm. I wonder if I'll ever post data for the Denver market from last night. I probably won't since the forum won't play any of its games! It's a shame too since the next market posts will also include the actual household count per market. Oh well!
I love the daily game cause its quick and easy. I remember looking at the other games last year and they seemed a bit confusing. I'll try again, but midterms may have sucked up all my brain power....
Sure, but it doesn't change what I said about it, because I've been comparing fast national trends, not finals. Either way, like mushu said, even the final numbers will be even or up from last week's finals, something the last 4-5 occupants of that timeslot cannot say (at a time when Grey's was considerably stronger)...
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Lets not forget that its numbers will drop come Finals. Grey's always has that 1 or 2 minute over run into the next hour.
Your prob. looking at about an 8.5 million and a 2.8 demo for LOM
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Rounding off the 10 p.m. time period was ABC’s struggling Life on Mars, at 8.92 million viewers (#2) and a third-place 2.9/ 8 among adults 18-49.
I know slamming LOM as a loser has become a habit here, but isn't this the second week it a row where it has either stayed even or gone up slightly from the previous week? With all of ABC's problems almost 9 mil and 3.0 in the demo should be considered a success, regardless of the retention from Grey's: the two shows aren't really compatible, and ABC's demo in general is way down throughout the week this season...
Originally posted by longliver: If consideration for LOM is going to be taken next week so should consideration for DSM. It is completely comparable to LOM in terms of what show comes before it and what that show gets ratings wise.
It is only fair.
This post makes no sense (I'm not saying it as a personal thing, I just don't understand your logic): aside from the fact that DSM airs after Grey's spinoff, none of the other things I mentioned about LOM exist for DSM... If you know of a reason DSM is not a loser say what those reasons are...
The lot of you always talk about lead-ins and such.
DSM does pretty darn good based on it's lead in. Yet LOM (which I still watch even though I am enjoying it less and less with each episode) with under 10 million (not to mention the large drop in 18-49) and one of the nets strongest lead ins is going to get consideration?
DSM has gained viewers over the past two weeks and has kept a good portion of PP low total viewers.
I don't exactly think DSM should be a winner, but again if LOM is going to get consideration in the coming weeks so should DSM.
I agree. Considering ABC's track record with this timeslot, there's no way ABC is disappointed with LOM.
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Originally posted by a-mad: Life on Mars should be retaining more of its lead-in, but on the positive side, it increased from last week and seems to be finding its footing.
After Big Shots and Six Degrees seemed to drop lower every week, LOM could be settling in with a solid 9 million viewers and 3 in the demo... which given ABC's troubles right now - they should be happy with.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: I was not talking about 11th hour or even comapiring it in this conversation. My comment is strictly about LOM in and of itself.
Yes, which is why it makes absolutely no sense for you to point out the timeslot runover this week. LoM had a timeslot runover in prior weeks as well.
Originally posted by Douglas: Hmm. I wonder if I'll ever post data for the Denver market from last night. I probably won't since the forum won't play any of its games! It's a shame too since the next market posts will also include the actual household count per market. Oh well!
I love the daily game cause its quick and easy. I remember looking at the other games last year and they seemed a bit confusing. I'll try again, but midterms may have sucked up all my brain power....
I know what you mean about school.
But quck reference for the Daily Sweeps and the PIFC Weekly games.
PIFC Weekly - Select one show from each level/color. From that, You can only select one show from each of the 5 nets (CW/MyTV combine). Pick the shows you think will do best over the next 4 weeks.
Daily Sweeps Game - You have $20 to bet, each demo ratings point is equal to one dolar. Try to correctly guess the demo rating for some of the shows each night (your choice). If correct, you gain money, if you are off with your guess, money is taken away. Try to end up with more money than you started with.
Originally posted by mswood: Well those are nice numbers for Smallville and Supernatural but expect them to take a hit with finals as they were preempted in Denver for football coverage.
Denver isn't much of a market for Smallville anyway, so I don't think it will drop the numbers much. Smallville seems to have really benefitted from the clock adjustment.
Side note: Marc's 10am numbers seemed to point towards Smallville doing worse that usual and now we have this data showing it doing better than usual. Odd fluctuation, IMO.
Yeah but there are two minuses. One unlike Baseball where both shows did air just far later at night, and thus they still had some live same day viewers, this time (and next week in New York) they didn't. So when finals come in there will be a big fat zero audience result for that market for these two shows. That could hurt anywhere from 100 to 300,000 in viewers depending on how many Bronco fans turn to the CW to watch the game.
Not to channel AL here, but if B&S was labeled as "disappointment" for having a terrible retention from DH, wouldn't LOM be labled the same with its retention out of GA? B&S has also been on the decline in ratings during the last few weeks while LOM is steadily increasing.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: But look how much of the audience it lost from Grey's Anatomy.
