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Originally posted by robert:
So what explanation will the networks give now for the declining numbers in viewership?


Don't you know that lots of people record shows for a whole season and then watch them all at once over the summer. Ratings would simply explode if those viewers were properly counted!
 
Posts: 7644 | Registered: 16 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Those are really good numbers for DH. ABC must be happy.

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Originally posted by vlis:
DH is posting nice numbers this season. Last nite was particularly impressive:
 
           Rank	Show	           Viewers	Demo	Network 
WEEK 1	4	DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES	 19,320 	 6.7 	abc
WEEK 2	5	DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES	 17,820 	 6.2 	abc
WEEK 3	??	DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES	 18,550 	 7.3 	abc
 


 
Posts: 3721 | Registered: 17 September 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I wouldn't go that far. We have to see how the numbers play out when it premieres.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Viva Laughlin will do just fine and be a Sunday Night staple for years to come. No need to speculate on anything else unless we are talking about the year 2012.

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Originally posted by eyeluver:
I think the issue for CBS on Sunday night, if all the experts on here and everywhere else are right, is what will CBS do Sunday Nights at 8pm?
If Viva Laughlin is the disaster that everyone says it is, what will they do. Someone mentioned comidies after 60 minutes, that worked well in the early 80's, then again in the early 90's. What no one is talking about today is the terrible number that NBC Sunday Night Football did last night-record low for that franchise. And I too can't wait to see the ratings for Nov.4th's rematch of last year's AFC Championship game between the Colts/Pats.


 
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I agree. Life Is Wild should be given a chance to perform. It isn't a bad show, just a show that no one is watching because no one watches the CW on Sundays.

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Originally posted by dumont:
Adding in the mini-nets:

Originally posted by vlis:
for the week; based on fast nationals:
	viewers	18-49
abc	11.0	3.6
cbs	12.2	3.5
nbc	7.9	2.9
fox	7.7	2.9
cw      3.0     1.2
mnt     0.8     0.3

  


Darned shame about the Life is Wild ratings. It is a great show...well written, superbly cast, and great location lensing in South Aftica.

Before making a final decision on its future, I think The CW should give it a one-off showing behind America's Next Top Model just to give it a wider sampling.


 
Posts: 3721 | Registered: 17 September 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I completely agree. It's been said many times on this board that the CW model of business is flawed. If they don't try to get a wider audience, they won't have a channel in a few years. The audience that they are targeting are not faithful TV watchers.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Exactly! They make no attempts at developing programs that have a mass appeal. You market to a group that doesn't really watch a lot of TV and you really shouldn't be surprised by the results.

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Originally posted by galveston:
The CW reaches too few markets as a free network channel. That's its first, biggest problem in a nutshell. WB and UPN were free but, in too many markets now, you have to have cable or digital cable to pick it up. The CW reaches less markets than its parents did. Network execs need to 'fess up to that.

Factor in ad campaigns that are for shit, and what's the mystery that it's faltering? I'd turn the channel the moment I saw that lime green logo and heard that it was targeted "young people" as a network if I didn't already watch Supernatural. In network speak, that means the shows will likely be shallow and stupid because suppposedly that's what young people want.


 
Posts: 3721 | Registered: 17 September 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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So those were the September 23-30 ratings with DVR added, huh?

Damn, I was worried about Grey's Anatomy. Roll Eyes Glad to see it added the most numbers. Oy vey.
 
Posts: 545 | Registered: 16 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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So far this season i must say DH's numbers are the most impressive.
 
Posts: 3525 | Registered: 11 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Nielsen has obviously screwed up with their numbers. In the spring The Office was gaining 1.8m viewers (31% gain), Lost was gaining 2.5m (22% gain) and 24 was gaining 1.9m (19% gain) and that was with Nielsen tracking only 9% of the audience. Now they're telling us that the increased the DVR sample to 20% and the highest gaining series barely got more then 2 million, yeah right. The delay in putting out these ratings is a sign that there is something wrong with these numbers.
 
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That is true. I forgot Birds of Prey. Dark Angel always struggled on FOX also.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
I never thought about it, but you're right.

Even the woriginal Wonder Woman Series had its troubles. It went from WW II era to modern day FBI agents.

Birds Of Prey didn't do well for the WB
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville:
I don't understand the appeal of Supergirl. If track records hold true, female super hero type characters have a harder time finding an audience. Ultraviolet, Aeon Flux, Elektra, Catwomen all bombed at the box office. Bionic Women is currently underperforming most expectations on TV. The CW doesn't have the resources that NBC does to try to promote a show. CW should try exploring the options of maybe an X-Men/Justice League type TV series. Something that would have more universal appeal and could be more of an ensemble cast.


 
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Originally posted by galveston:
So those were the September 23-30 ratings with DVR added, huh?


Were these ratings posted and I missed it? Was I link to them posted somewhere? Help me out here.
 
Posts: 103 | Registered: 05 October 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I don't know what I was thinking. I was looking forward to seeing SN's DVR'd numbers today, and it didn't even premiere until the 4th. Guess I have to wait another month with the way Nielsen operates. Roll Eyes
 
Posts: 545 | Registered: 16 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Here's another link about DVR numbers .

http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Todays-News/700000044

If the 5% increase is right then we can all forget about taking DVR numbers into account. The same day data are still the numbers you can use for an accurate comentary

So i guess too much fuss about nothing really
 
Posts: 3525 | Registered: 11 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by lost_fan:
Nielsen has obviously screwed up with their numbers. In the spring The Office was gaining 1.8m viewers (31% gain), Lost was gaining 2.5m (22% gain) and 24 was gaining 1.9m (19% gain) and that was with Nielsen tracking only 9% of the audience. Now they're telling us that the increased the DVR sample to 20% and the highest gaining series barely got more then 2 million, yeah right. The delay in putting out these ratings is a sign that there is something wrong with these numbers.


Well you're making an error. It doesn't mean that if you increase the sample the final numbers will increase as well. It means that the data is more accurate. That's all.

Ex: if you make a political poll and you ask 5000 persons and you make another one and you ask 10000 persons the percentages of the candidates will be more or less the same, only that the error margin is smaller
 
Posts: 3525 | Registered: 11 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Interesting article. I find it hilarious that no one DVRed CW Now. Not a single person. Ouch. I'm not suprised that Smallville was the only CW show mentioned in the article as an increasing DVR show. If it's enough of a bump, it could be CW's #1 show. None of the others (except maybe Reaper or Supernatural) will see any noticable increase on the CW lineup. Journeymen got a nice little bump but I don't think it's enough to save it.

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Originally posted by spotupj:
The first article I've seen about the DVR numbers:
Zap2It


 
Posts: 3721 | Registered: 17 September 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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i have always said the nielsen ratings is not acurate. I think there is more homes without the nielsen box then there is homes with the box. And people without the box also watch television so the numbers can never be acurate unless they give a box to each house owner. But that is not the way it works





 
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