If the numbers were like that in 2005, I'm guessing they will only be in the upper 4's in viewers and a 1.9 in the demo.
BTW, thanks for all these numbers Justin.
You may be right but I don't think it really means anything at all. Supernanny and Wife Swap have been incredibly stable over the years.
Supernanny hit a 4.0 in the demo last January.
That was pretty much a one time only thing against virtually no competition. If it can average around a 2.0 facing Idol, I'd say it can do about a 2.0 against Friday shows.
Given the pendong failures of NBC's Crusoe and Life, and CW's Everybody Hates CHris and The Game, CBS could end up being the only network doing scripted programming on Friday.
If the numbers were like that in 2005, I'm guessing they will only be in the upper 4's in viewers and a 1.9 in the demo.
BTW, thanks for all these numbers Justin.
You may be right but I don't think it really means anything at all. Supernanny and Wife Swap have been incredibly stable over the years.
Supernanny hit a 4.0 in the demo last January.
That was pretty much a one time only thing against virtually no competition. If it can average around a 2.0 facing Idol, I'd say it can do about a 2.0 against Friday shows.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Given the pendong failures of NBC's Crusoe and Life, and CW's Everybody Hates CHris and The Game, CBS could end up being the only network doing scripted programming on Friday.
If the numbers were like that in 2005, I'm guessing they will only be in the upper 4's in viewers and a 1.9 in the demo.
BTW, thanks for all these numbers Justin.
You may be right but I don't think it really means anything at all. Supernanny and Wife Swap have been incredibly stable over the years.
Supernanny hit a 4.0 in the demo last January.
That was pretty much a one time only thing against virtually no competition. If it can average around a 2.0 facing Idol, I'd say it can do about a 2.0 against Friday shows.
and they're not losing money with those ratings? I think the profit is bigger with Supernanny/Wifeswap or gameshows.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Given the pendong failures of NBC's Crusoe and Life, and CW's Everybody Hates CHris and The Game, CBS could end up being the only network doing scripted programming on Friday
An all reality show Friday makes much better sense than the near all-reality Wednesday that went on last spring.
9:00pm Close to Home (season premiere): 12.00, 3.0
Why was this cancelled?
It was a case of CBS having an almost complete schedule of shows that did well. They had to cancel something in order to have room for something new and CBS 'desperately' wants to find some shows that will attract a younger audience. Close to Home got cancelled and Moonlight replaced it. As it turned out, Moonlight wasn't a younger skewing show (or maybe CBS just can't attract a younger audience no matter what they put on the air). This year, CBS will try Ex-List, but they will likely find out that no matter what they program, mostly old people will come since that is how their network is defined. The only really 'young' shows they have are the Monday sitcoms and the NFL overrun (60 Minutes clears out the young people there).
I suggested at the time that CBS move Close to Home to Saturday and build the night about it. But the networks will never program Saturday again.
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9:00pm Close to Home (season premiere): 12.00, 3.0
Why was this cancelled?
It was a case of CBS having an almost complete schedule of shows that did well. They had to cancel something in order to have room for something new and CBS 'desperately' wants to find some shows that will attract a younger audience. Close to Home got cancelled and Moonlight replaced it. As it turned out, Moonlight wasn't a younger skewing show (or maybe CBS just can't attract a younger audience no matter what they put on the air). This year, CBS will try Ex-List, but they will likely find out that no matter what they program, mostly old people will come since that is how their network is defined. The only really 'young' shows they have are the Monday sitcoms and the NFL overrun (60 Minutes clears out the young people there).
Originally posted by Marc Berman: I suggested at the time that CBS move Close to Home to Saturday and build the night about it. But the networks will never program Saturday again
Close to Home would have worked on Saturday, but I'm not sure that it would substantially outperform CSI reruns on Saturday. Sure, CBS would get a small increase in ratings, but would it be worth the added expense?
CBS is probably better off trying to find a 'sport' for Saturday night. That Elite slapfighting didn't do very well over the summer, but I bet its ratings pick up now that Fall is here and more people are home.
I think CBS or NBC should go with a game show night. In CBS' case, they could air two game shows (The Price is Right and something else) into 48 Hours Mystery. NBC could bring back 1 vs. 100.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I suggested at the time that CBS move Close to Home to Saturday and build the night about it. But the networks will never program Saturday again
Close to Home would have worked on Saturday, but I'm not sure that it would substantially outperform CSI reruns on Saturday. Sure, CBS would get a small increase in ratings, but would it be worth the added expense?
CBS is probably better off trying to find a 'sport' for Saturday night. That Elite slapfighting didn't do very well over the summer, but I bet its ratings pick up now that Fall is here and more people are home.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: I think CBS or NBC should go with a game show night. In CBS' case, they could air two game shows (The Price is Right and something else) into 48 Hours Mystery. NBC could bring back 1 vs. 100
That could definitely work and be low cost enough to make sense...assuming CBS can keep TPiR from giving away $1,000,000 too often.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: I think CBS or NBC should go with a game show night. In CBS' case, they could air two game shows (The Price is Right and something else) into 48 Hours Mystery. NBC could bring back 1 vs. 100
That could definitely work and be low cost enough to make sense...assuming CBS can keep TPiR from giving away $1,000,000 too often.
I don't know about that. There was an article from NBC that stated the importance of creating a Saturday that people watched (and one that could compete with FOX's Saturday). NBC had plans for moving all of the Thom Beers shows on Saturday and creating NBC Saturday On Edge. Looks like they are still going to do it. It's not much, but if it takes off, it's a start.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I suggested at the time that CBS move Close to Home to Saturday and build the night about it. But the networks will never program Saturday again.
Yes, its more than likely CW Fridays and Crusoe will come in DOA. Crusoe was an interesting idea, just placed in the wrong timeslot and probably on the wrong network. However, Life might carve out an audience. If Numbers can do it, the much better produced and acted Life may have a chance. NBC sure is trying at least placing it after Heroes to start.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: Given the pendong failures of NBC's Crusoe and Life, and CW's Everybody Hates CHris and The Game, CBS could end up being the only network doing scripted programming on Friday.
The schedule could work. One thing is for sure, FOX needs to change things after baseball. This is as bad as FOX has been in a while. The only three shows posting any sort of numbers worth talking about is House, Fringe, and Bones. The rest is a huge failure.
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Originally posted by Julie: I didn't even know 5th Grader would be on last night. They should have scheduled a repeat of House or something at 8pm - why waste an episode of 5th Grader like that?
Does FOX not see the errors in their schedule? They are really getting hit hard this fall, harder than usual. They need to change Wednesdays-Fridays immediately. Wednesdays at 9pm should be Kitchen Nightmares (it's a good show, it shouldn't be wasted on Thursdays against all the competition). Thursdays need to be 5th Grader/Lyrics again. With 5th Grader at 8pm on Thursdays, my guess is it could easily get back up to 8 million. And Lyrics, while not doing all that bad on Fridays, could easily manage the same thing, if not more, on Thursdays. Fridays for them have been way below what it should be. Get Moment of Truth back - that would be grat on Fridays, along with Til Death or Hole in the Wall.
Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I don't know about that. There was an article from NBC that stated the importance of creating a Saturday that people watched (and one that could compete with FOX's Saturday). NBC had plans for moving all of the Thom Beers shows on Saturday and creating NBC Saturday On Edge. Looks like they are still going to do it. It's not much, but if it takes off, it's a start.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I suggested at the time that CBS move Close to Home to Saturday and build the night about it. But the networks will never program Saturday again.
Below is the article I got the information from. It might be an interesting read. It's dated December 3, 2007, so it's possible plans have changed. If networks were to program on Saturday, this is the type of plan that they would probably have to use to keep costs down.
