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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
ABC won't do any worse than CBS. They have a lot of reality waiting in the wings that are proven winners for them. They won't need to air that many repeats of their regular shows.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
With the strike ongoing, I think FOX has a very good chance at winning both the title in Viewers and Demo.

ABC will be hurt by their hits not having original episodes and not repeating well.

CBS will remain competitive with FOX because of how well their shows repeat.
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Originally posted by Luke:
First time on the site.
Do you think CBS will keep the leadership this year? It was not the most inspired year of it.

Well, cheering for ABC.



All the Networks will suffer because of the strike. Even with Fox winning by a wider margin they will suffer since advertisers don't pay based on how bad you beat the other Net's.

That said, ABC has two shows that generally get above a 7.0 in the demo in first run. If the strike continues along so as that ABC doesn't have those shows in originals in Feb., and even May, there is no way I see them keeping up with Fox or CBS. You just can't replace two hours of 7+ demo numbers that easiliy.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
ABC won't do any worse than CBS. They have a lot of reality waiting in the wings that are proven winners for them. They won't need to air that many repeats of their regular shows.


ABC repeats of their top shows (D, GA, PP, B&S, PD, UB) will all be worth about 1/3rd the viewers of a regular episode. CBS's top shows CSI's, NCIS,CM, sitcoms will pull better than 50% of their regular episode numbers.

Unless ABC has so much reality coming that they can avoid even the standard number of seaso
nal repeats, they will lose ground.



WHAT? It's too much for my head.
 
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The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #2, 9.39 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/ 9),

Almost exactly the same as last week. Hopefully the Strike does not kill the momentum of the show.


Valid question in this case. I say it can be restarted.
 
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Is it the actors and Directors that can strike at the first of June, 2008?
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Originally posted by Luke:
Why can't they pull another DWTS? it's possible, no?


They better not choose any 'stars' that are actors. When do the actors go on strike? Not good if it happens in the middle of a season for a live show.

ABC has a new show called 'Dance Wars' instead.


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The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #2, 9.39 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/ 9),

Almost exactly the same as last week. Hopefully the Strike does not kill the momentum of the show.


I don't see anyway it will...of all the newer CBS comedies (all excluging 2.5 Men), Big Bang has the brightest future.
 
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Fox: After a few weeks of decent retention, K-Ville fell off the cliff last night. I'd say the end could be near if it weren't for the strike. Prison Break remains stable.


Any previous notion that FOX would go out of its way to save K-Ville was destroyed last night.
 
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
ABC won't do any worse than CBS. They have a lot of reality waiting in the wings that are proven winners for them. They won't need to air that many repeats of their regular shows.


ABC repeats of their top shows (D, GA, PP, B&S, PD, UB) will all be worth about 1/3rd the viewers of a regular episode. CBS's top shows CSI's, NCIS,CM, sitcoms will pull better than 50% of their regular episode numbers.

Unless ABC has so much reality coming that they can avoid even the standard number of seaso
nal repeats, they will lose ground.



WHAT? It's too much for my head.


Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, Brothers and Sister, Pushing Daisies, and Ugly Betty: all serial show sthat will have very poor rerun numbers.
 
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Has anyone heard of any "Drop Dead Date" for the writers strike, that will cnacell the rest of the season?

If production of shows could start back up in early March, would the nets still ask for new episodes for the last 7 weeks of the season?

What about an earli April Production restart?


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Is it the actors and Directors that can strike at the first of June, 2008


I just Yahoo'ed and got June 30th as the SAG contract expiration date. So, the actors won't likely be able to walk in the middle of any shows.
 
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Pushing Daisies, while not a flat-out procedural, is a very case-by-case show that you can get into as long as you know the basic concept of how the pie maker's power works and what he does with it.
 
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I agree - FOX will probably win in both viewers and demo with the Super Bowl and American Idol (which they will no doubt stretch out as much as possible now).

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
With the strike ongoing, I think FOX has a very good chance at winning both the title in Viewers and Demo.

ABC will be hurt by their hits not having original episodes and not repeating well.

CBS will remain competitive with FOX because of how well their shows repeat.
quote:
Originally posted by Luke:
First time on the site.
Do you think CBS will keep the leadership this year? It was not the most inspired year of it.

Well, cheering for ABC.
 
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The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #2, 9.39 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/ 9),

Almost exactly the same as last week. Hopefully the Strike does not kill the momentum of the show.


Valid question in this case. I say it can be restarted.


I Don't believe BBT nor SW? will be fighting at 10 million viewers, because BBT will also suffer from the strike, as SW?. they will get much lower numbers.
 
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Fox: After a few weeks of decent retention, K-Ville fell off the cliff last night. I'd say the end could be near if it weren't for the strike. Prison Break remains stable.


Any previous notion that FOX would go out of its way to save K-Ville was destroyed last night.
Should be interesting to see how WelcomToK-Ville spins this later tonight. Wink


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Dancing, Big Bang, and Samantha all with rock-solid performances. The 9-11 hours for NBC ticked up a bit from last week's almost unbelievably low levels, but Journeyman is still just a burnoff at this point despite what will go down as substantial week-to-week growth. K-Ville: can't even claim to be "stable" anymore.

I think we'll probably see Chuck beyond the 13 ordered.


A 3.0 for CHUCK anchoring a net like NBC in a tough hour is reasonably solid.

Comparing it to a game show's performance to me is apples and oranges.

Eager to catch up on two eps of SAM to see how it is doing creatively.
 
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ABC will definitely take the biggest hit. There's no way to cover up 7.0 18-49s turning into 2.0 18-49s for DH and Grey's.

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Originally posted by Hawk-eye:
quote:
Originally posted by mushu_jj:
ABC won't do any worse than CBS. They have a lot of reality waiting in the wings that are proven winners for them. They won't need to air that many repeats of their regular shows.
quote:
Originally posted by TV-aholic:
With the strike ongoing, I think FOX has a very good chance at winning both the title in Viewers and Demo.

ABC will be hurt by their hits not having original episodes and not repeating well.

CBS will remain competitive with FOX because of how well their shows repeat.
quote:
Originally posted by Luke:
First time on the site.
Do you think CBS will keep the leadership this year? It was not the most inspired year of it.

Well, cheering for ABC.



All the Networks will suffer because of the strike. Even with Fox winning by a wider margin they will suffer since advertisers don't pay based on how bad you beat the other Net's.

That said, ABC has two shows that generally get above a 7.0 in the demo in first run. If the strike continues along so as that ABC doesn't have those shows in originals in Feb., and even May, there is no way I see them keeping up with Fox or CBS. You just can't replace two hours of 7+ demo numbers that easiliy.
 
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