Count me as one of the ones who only watch a Procedural show once. (And i'm one of the minority per your logic that only am watching CI on NBC) Once I know the ending, I don't really have an interest to see it again. But I'm glad to finally understand why others might want to see these over and over....
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: For me, its the enjoyment of the format and the Characters. I like the process of finding out the "who-Dunnit" as much as the end result of the case. Not to different then being able to watch a favorite movie any & evertime you see it pop up on a cable channel. Or... riding a specific rollercoaster multiple times, each time you visit that amusement park.
Just because you have seen it before and know the ending, doesn't make it any less enjoyable.
But, if you are a fan of the female dramas or primetetime soaps, I can see why watching those shows a 2nd time is not enjoyable.
Originally posted by Hawk-eye: Well, at least Big Brother won't have to do much to improve on POT's numbers.
I think Big Brother will do an easy 7 million on most nights, especially Tuesday with the solid NCIS lead in. It should also do well with limited Sunday night competition. Wednesdays at 8 will be tough at first, but the elimination suspense along with the future lack of a hit in that hour once Idol moves to 9pm could work in its favor (I don't see MoT pulling those sorts of numbers once it goes to 8pm).
You have a point, but my original point was that I don't think it's a fair comparison of a 1st run episode vs. a 2nd run episode. If they both were 1st runs, I think CM would still come out on top, but not by that wide of a margin.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: You're right x. Add 3 million that were watching CI on USA and its a very close race. Not to mention, CM is down about 3 million from what it was pulling this fall, something people tend to forget.
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Next on NBC was Law & Order: Criminal Intent at 9 p.m. (Viewers: #3, 8.27 million; A18-49: #4, 2.2/ 5), which continues to get squashed by CBS’ competing Criminal Intent (Viewers: #2, 12.88 million; A18-49: #2, 3.2/ 8),
Marc should be taking into consideration that Criminal Intent is not new (just on NBC) compared to Criminal Minds since the eps were already run on USA. If you combined both airings, it would be fairly close.
What are we doing NBC (HEROES) Nielson math again?
I'm with x on this one. The main problem with the serialized dramas repeats is ongoing storylines. Its harder to get into the show. Now if a show was repeated from the beginning and all episodes reaired (something that rarely happens), I suspect we'd see better results. Some of the semi-serialized like Greys does no where near as good as the CSI Minnions but much better than the typical serialized show like Housewives or Brothers and Sisters.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Count me as one of the ones who only watch a Procedural show once. (And i'm one of the minority per your logic that only am watching CI on NBC) Once I know the ending, I don't really have an interest to see it again. But I'm glad to finally understand why others might want to see these over and over....
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: For me, its the enjoyment of the format and the Characters. I like the process of finding out the "who-Dunnit" as much as the end result of the case. Not to different then being able to watch a favorite movie any & evertime you see it pop up on a cable channel. Or... riding a specific rollercoaster multiple times, each time you visit that amusement park.
Just because you have seen it before and know the ending, doesn't make it any less enjoyable.
But, if you are a fan of the female dramas or primetetime soaps, I can see why watching those shows a 2nd time is not enjoyable.
I also find myself simply watching a show once. However, I have been buying some shows on DVD and those are usually fun to relive (the OC, Boston Legal, Arrested Development). As for the serialized shows repeating poorly, the main problem is that episodes are aired out of order and not all episodes are shown. If all episodes were reaired or even episodes starting with a recap special encore and then repeats from there on out would probably do better than the jumbled schedule no one can comprehend put out by the ABC and CW chimps.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Count me as one of the ones who only watch a Procedural show once. (And i'm one of the minority per your logic that only am watching CI on NBC) Once I know the ending, I don't really have an interest to see it again. But I'm glad to finally understand why others might want to see these over and over....
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: For me, its the enjoyment of the format and the Characters. I like the process of finding out the "who-Dunnit" as much as the end result of the case. Not to different then being able to watch a favorite movie any & evertime you see it pop up on a cable channel. Or... riding a specific rollercoaster multiple times, each time you visit that amusement park.
Just because you have seen it before and know the ending, doesn't make it any less enjoyable.
But, if you are a fan of the female dramas or primetetime soaps, I can see why watching those shows a 2nd time is not enjoyable.
The question is: do they not remember the last time they saw the show or do they not care that they already know how the 'mystery' will turn out?
I have an older retired friend and her and her husband love all the CSI's and L&O's and don't follow tv enough to know when the episodes are new. They watch and spend the episode debating if they have seen it or not, usually not remebering until the big resolution at the end. We were laugh about it just a few days ago.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: Well, Speaking of TPiR and Drew... CBS will aire The Price is Right for 6 weeks, starting on Friday, Feb. 22.
Moonlight will get a rest and Ghost Wisperer will move to 9pm.
Yes, I know. I posted about that this morning. I have seen one episode of Price is Right with Drew and he was awful. He mumbles, seems bored, and acts as if the games are stupid. his days as host of that show are numbered.
Originally posted by SW: With another game show (1 vs 100) already in the 8 pm slot, would it not make more sense to air TPiR at 9 pm, when HUT levels are higher anyway?
I think the Drama-gameshow-drama set up would be a bad flow for the night on CBS.
Placing TPiR at 8pm allows the other two show to have a nice flow for the remainder of the evening.
I agree. I'll add in that CBS is probably making an intentional attempt to permanently damage 1vs.100 viewership with their temporary Price is Right timing. The goal is simply to get viewers used to sitting on CBS all night, so they are trying to put a gameshow on that will draw viewers away from 1vs.100.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: Well, Speaking of TPiR and Drew... CBS will aire The Price is Right for 6 weeks, starting on Friday, Feb. 22.
Moonlight will get a rest and Ghost Wisperer will move to 9pm.
Yes, I know. I posted about that this morning. I have seen one episode of Price is Right with Drew and he was awful. He mumbles, seems bored, and acts as if the games are stupid. his days as host of that show are numbered.
I've seen two episodes. His premiere episodes and one about a week or two ago. He has gotten better, but you cann see he still a little intimidated by replacing Bob Barker.
Hopefully the Primetime Specials will let him be a little more comedic with his hosting, similar to how he was on Who's Line.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: Well, Speaking of TPiR and Drew... CBS will aire The Price is Right for 6 weeks, starting on Friday, Feb. 22.
Moonlight will get a rest and Ghost Wisperer will move to 9pm.
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Originally posted by Obveeus: Power of 10 may not even be strong enough to come back for Summer. People get sick of Drew Carey in any given format after a time. It will be interesting to see how long he can hold the Price is Right job.
When Grey's Anatomy went head to head against CSI, what the networks showed was that people will record and timeshift as needed to catch shows they really care about. Last night, AI took a bit of a dent to DoND, but both shows are still being watched in high numbers. Power of 10, on the other hand, isn't a show people will go out of their way to see, so the only way it gains an audience is if it is up against 'nothing' as competition.
i wonder if they will eventually move GW to 9pm...? imo, it would be a smart move.
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Like someone else said, with a procedural, I can watch over and over again because I find the process interesting. Knowing who-done-it is almost beside the point. Watching the characters do what they do to find out is the fun part.
With serials, the build up to who is going to get together with whom (for example) isn't as interesting after the fact. The "will they or won't they" tension can be kind of fun when you don't know how it will turn out. But, once you do know how it turns out, that tension is kind of gone, and watching it play out again isn't all that interesting.
For me, the same holds true even when the serial is in syndication, and there is a chance to watch the whole thing play out from beginning to end. If I already know how things are going to go, I don't have much interest in watching.
Well i am a crime shows fan, and i rarely can watch a repeat of an episode i've already saw. I watch procedural show beacause of the whodunit element, so what's the point in watching the show again if i already know who has done it
The only repeats i watch for episodes i've seen are for sitcoms. I think i saw some Married with Childen episodes 10 times
Originally posted by SW: With another game show (1 vs 100) already in the 8 pm slot, would it not make more sense to air TPiR at 9 pm, when HUT levels are higher anyway?
I think the Drama-gameshow-drama set up would be a bad flow for the night on CBS.
Placing TPiR at 8pm allows the other two show to have a nice flow for the remainder of the evening.
I agree. I'll add in that CBS is probably making an intentional attempt to permanently damage 1vs.100 viewership with their temporary Price is Right timing. The goal is simply to get viewers used to sitting on CBS all night, so they are trying to put a gameshow on that will draw viewers away from 1vs.100.
I don't think 1 vs. 100 will be that harmed if at all. TPIR primetime specials have never done that great but modestly successful. 1 vs. 100 will probably win the demo with Price taking the viewers. I do think it will be better for CBS than airing Moonlight repeats.
Originally posted by robert: The only repeats i watch for episodes i've seen are for sitcoms. I think i saw some Married with Childen episodes 10 times
I'm with you here. I watch Seinfeld as much as possible yet. BTW, TV-aholic, good news here as Seinfeld is back on at 9:30. Not sure where they shipped TMZ to but I'm not missing it and I'm guessing not many NW Iowans are either.
