I doubt MyTV's Saturday Numbers are strong enough to over take the CW with its Sunday Numbers.
Now, if MyTV had scheduled a Movie last saturday... who knows.
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Originally posted by dumont: MyNetworkTV Inches Up On The CW
Look how close the two mini-networks ended up last week:
The CW: 1.3HH/2%, 1.940 million viewers, 0.7 A18-49 MyNetworkTV: 0.9HH/1%, 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49
MyNetworkTV hit an all-time network high in its weekly 0.6 A18-49 rating, and its year-over-year growth was up 80% in households, 112% in viewers and 100% in A18-49 demo.
You're right tv-aholic, if MyNetworkTV had skedded a feature as strong as "Big", it would have come much closer to The CW's weekly viewer average.
MyNetworkTV Saturdays: Dec.29 1.760 million viewers (Special MySaturdayNightMovie "Big") Jan.05 0.610 million viewers (Decision House / Control Room Presents)
The CW Sundays: Dec.30 0.825 million viewers (regular line-up) Jan.06 0.790 million viewers (regular line-up)
As it stands, even with regular programming, MNT's Saturday is not that far off from The CW's Sunday night numbers, and the HUT levels are so much lower on Saturday nights.
If The CW didn't have WWE Smackdown last week tg juice its weekly average, MyNetworkTV's six-night average of 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49 ended in a virtual tie with The CW's WWE-excluded five-night average of 1.469 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I doubt MyTV's Saturday Numbers are strong enough to over take the CW with its Sunday Numbers.
Now, if MyTV had scheduled a Movie last saturday... who knows.
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Originally posted by dumont: MyNetworkTV Inches Up On The CW
Look how close the two mini-networks ended up last week:
The CW: 1.3HH/2%, 1.940 million viewers, 0.7 A18-49 MyNetworkTV: 0.9HH/1%, 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49
MyNetworkTV hit an all-time network high in its weekly 0.6 A18-49 rating, and its year-over-year growth was up 80% in households, 112% in viewers and 100% in A18-49 demo.
Originally posted by dumont: That being said, poor October Road. It is now tracking worse than the better series What About Brian did at this point last year. I found last nights episode lame and contrived, with The Cupcake Kid now in charge of municipal contracts, and the corny resolution of it all. Why doesn't this series move Ms. Prepon's character more into the centre is beyond me... the gang of guys and their macho antics is starting to grate on my nerves.
Ut oh. Dumont is turning on the show. I smell a ratings spike next week.
Hogan brings more viewers to the show with his popularity than he takes away with his hosting style. For that reason alone, he will stay.
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators: Yes, the hosts are distracting. Hopefully NBC rethinks them.
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Originally posted by Brian: Too bad for OR. I really dig the show, and at least I can take comfort in knowing that it will run its course because of the writers strike. No way ABC would take off original scripted programming during a strike.
As for AG, I have to agree...get rid of the HORRIBLE hosts and focus on the competition. That eliminator is GRUELING.
Originally posted by dumont: As it stands, even with regular programming, MNT's Saturday is not that far off from The CW's Sunday night numbers, and the HUT levels are so much lower on Saturday nights.
Are you tryingto make a valid comparison between 1st run episodes on MNTV and 'off-season' reruns on CW?
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If The CW didn't have WWE Smackdown last week tg juice its weekly average, MyNetworkTV's six-night average of 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49 ended in a virtual tie with The CW's WWE-excluded five-night average of 1.469 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49.
WWE Smackdown is regular CW programming. Meanwhile, what if MNTV didn't have this Tuesday's highest rated ever on MNTV network 'juiced programming' special of the Magic Awards? How would the numbers compare for CW's 6 nights of regular programming vs. MNTVs 5 nights (not counting the juiced Tuesday)?
Dumont, just a quick question. How did you obtain such a fondness, a love for MNTV? The network really has no identity and has no show that would blow anyone away. And to me, the fact that its numbers are getting so close to CW is more of a sign on how weak the CW is more so than how strong MNTV is doing. UPN and WB were doing far better in their 2nd year than MNTV is doing (I believe). I know that viewing levels are far lower in this day, but still, MNTV's numbers are tiny.
the season-premiere of Medium (Viewers: #2, 9.57 million)
Medium did pretty well. Just think if NBC aired it after Heroes last fall. NBC would of had a much stronger Monday. They wasted so much time with Jounreyman. But I guess it was smarter because Meduim is one of the few scripted series left.
NBC - Medium (9.57 million) CBS - CSI: Miami (9.14 million) [repeat] ABC - October Road (5.00 million)
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
This looks like NBC victory on Monday for once! Deal or No Deal is good, but I can only imagine (and nobody can prove me wrong) how much higher Medium's viewership would have been with Heroes as a lead it!
Originally posted by tvfan300: Hogan brings more viewers to the show with his popularity than he takes away with his hosting style. For that reason alone, he will stay.
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators: Yes, the hosts are distracting. Hopefully NBC rethinks them.
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Originally posted by Brian: Too bad for OR. I really dig the show, and at least I can take comfort in knowing that it will run its course because of the writers strike. No way ABC would take off original scripted programming during a strike.
As for AG, I have to agree...get rid of the HORRIBLE hosts and focus on the competition. That eliminator is GRUELING.
I actually don't understand why anyone is bothered by Hogan. Hogan and Ali play rather small parts in the show. BTW the guy commenting the events is really good
I let my kids (boy 8) & (girl 11) watch AG and they loved it. And like most reality there's an allure to something the whole family can watch. They also really responded to the competitor's sympathetic back stories. And, as clunky as he is, the Hulkster has me fondly remembering my misspent youth - BROTHER!
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Next week is going to be interesting- I have a gut feeling Dance War is going to go down (ABC didn't realize it's the last three words of Dancing With the Stars that makes it popular, not just the first one)...Prison Break has just been a disaster this season (Personally, I think FOX should have tried Sarah Connor Chronicles at 8pm-I saw the pilot this weekend, and it was interesting how they reset the Terminator mythology), and I think AG goes up or at least remains steady, which will be is huge for NBC after the Golden Globes debacle they'll have this weekend..
Originally posted by dumont: As it stands, even with regular programming, MNT's Saturday is not that far off from The CW's Sunday night numbers, and the HUT levels are so much lower on Saturday nights.
Are you tryingto make a valid comparison between 1st run episodes on MNTV and 'off-season' reruns on CW?
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If The CW didn't have WWE Smackdown last week tg juice its weekly average, MyNetworkTV's six-night average of 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49 ended in a virtual tie with The CW's WWE-excluded five-night average of 1.469 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49.
WWE Smackdown is regular CW programming. Meanwhile, what if MNTV didn't have this Tuesday's highest rated ever on MNTV network 'juiced programming' special of the Magic Awards? How would the numbers compare for CW's 6 nights of regular programming vs. MNTVs 5 nights (not counting the juiced Tuesday)?
In response to your first point, on Saturday MNT had a 50/50 original/encore mix (Decision House was an encore, Control Room Presents was original). The CW had exactly the same mix on Sunday, with CW Now / Life is Wild as originals, and Aliens / Crowned as encores.
In response to your second point, you are right about the record-setting encore of The World Magic Awards providing juice to MNT's weekly numbers. My point was that on any given night of the week (excepting Fridays), The CW and MyNetworkTV are now running neck and neck, with no discernable advantage to either network on any night other than Fridays. Of course, this will change when Next Top Model returns (advantaging Wednesday for The CW), but this will likely be offset by the February 4th debut of Paradise Hotel 2 which I expect will put Mondays decisively in MNT's possession.
The biggest a-ha in this past weeks numbers is to look back a year ago, to week 16 (last season started one week earlier):
The CW: 2.0HH/3%, 3.010 million viewers, 1.2 A18-49 MNT: 0.5HH/1%, 0.700 million viewers, 0.3 A18-49
The CW has gone from one year ago having 4x the households, 4.5x the viewership and 4x the young adult demo to being just a little bit ahead of MNT today.
What happened to cause this? Mr. Meidel has re-fashioned MNT away from the telenovellas into Spike-lite, for sure. But give him his due, for he has picked reality series and movie nights that have out-rated the telenovellas across the board.
But Ms. Ostroff has helped make MNT look better as her fall crop of new shows has not set the Nielsen world on fire. Ms. Ostroff has re-cast The CW in a new direction, letting go of Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars, Reba and Eight is Enough in favour of a new crop of shows that have underwhelmed in the Nielsens.
A few weeks back travisyanan wondered whether The CW should have given Veronica Mars: FBI a limited pick-up. By this point last year, Veronica Mars was out-rating in A18-49 every single new series that The CW has programmed as replacement fare this year. Every single new series falls below Veronica's 1.2 young adult demographic (and yes, naysayers, there were repeats averaged into that number too).
As at Week 16 ending Jan.07/07: ------------------------------- Veronica Mars: 2.712 million viewers, 1.2 A18-49 average, 12 airings
As at Week 15 ending Jan.06/08: ------------------------------- Reaper: 2.860 million viewers, 1.1 A18-49 average, 13 airings Gossip Girl: 2.469 million viewers, 1.1 A18-49 average, 15 airings Crowned (originals): 1.954 million viewers, 0.9 A18-49 average, 4 airings Aliens in America (Monday): 1.892 million viewers, 0.7 A18-49 average, 15 airings Life is Wild: 1.200 million viewers, 0.4 A18-49 average, 12 airings CW Now: 0.799 million viewers, 0.3 A18-49 average, 15 airings Online Nation: 0.670 million viewers, 0.2 A18-49 average, 3 airings
Though Mr. Thomas is most gainfully employed over at the House of Mouse, having produced this seasons Big Shots, and readying Cupid for ABC's fall schedule, Ms. Ostroff should call him up to arrange lunch and see if its not too late to greenlight to series that exceptionally good Veronica Mars: FBI pilot that she took a pass on last June. I'm sure that Mr. Thomas, after muttering from behind his napkin something about an increased licensing fee, would only be to happy to help Ms. Ostoff lead her network out of the A18-49 downward spiral that it finds itself caught up in.
Originally posted by weaklink75: Next week is going to be interesting- I have a gut feeling Dance War is going to go down (ABC didn't realize it's the last three words of Dancing With the Stars that makes it popular, not just the first one)...Prison Break has just been a disaster this season (Personally, I think FOX should have tried Sarah Connor Chronicles at 8pm-I saw the pilot this weekend, and it was interesting how they reset the Terminator mythology), and I think AG goes up or at least remains steady, which will be is huge for NBC after the Golden Globes debacle they'll have this weekend..
Originally posted by dumont: As it stands, even with regular programming, MNT's Saturday is not that far off from The CW's Sunday night numbers, and the HUT levels are so much lower on Saturday nights.
Are you tryingto make a valid comparison between 1st run episodes on MNTV and 'off-season' reruns on CW?
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If The CW didn't have WWE Smackdown last week tg juice its weekly average, MyNetworkTV's six-night average of 1.440 million viewers, 0.6 A18-49 ended in a virtual tie with The CW's WWE-excluded five-night average of 1.469 million viewers and 0.6 A18-49.
WWE Smackdown is regular CW programming. Meanwhile, what if MNTV didn't have this Tuesday's highest rated ever on MNTV network 'juiced programming' special of the Magic Awards? How would the numbers compare for CW's 6 nights of regular programming vs. MNTVs 5 nights (not counting the juiced Tuesday)?
In response to your first point, on Saturday MNT had a 50/50 original/encore mix (Decision House was an encore, Control Room Presents was original). The CW had exactly the same mix on Sunday, with CW Now / Life is Wild as originals, and Aliens / Crowned as encores.
In response to your second point, you are right about the record-setting encore of The World Magic Awards providing juice to MNT's weekly numbers. My point was that on any given night of the week (excepting Fridays), The CW and MyNetworkTV are now running neck and neck, with no discernable advantage to either network on any night other than Fridays. Of course, this will change when Next Top Model returns (advantaging Wednesday for The CW), but this will likely be offset by the February 4th debut of Paradise Hotel 2 which I expect will put Mondays decisively in MNT's possession.
The biggest a-ha in this past weeks numbers is to look back a year ago, to week 16 (last season started one week earlier):
The CW: 2.0HH/3%, 3.010 million viewers, 1.2 A18-49 MNT: 0.5HH/1%, 0.700 million viewers, 0.3 A18-49
The CW has gone from one year ago having 4x the households, 4.5x the viewership and 4x the young adult demo to being just a little bit ahead of MNT today.
What happened to cause this? Mr. Meidel has re-fashioned MNT away from the telenovellas into Spike-lite, for sure. But give him his due, for he has picked reality series and movie nights that have out-rated the telenovellas across the board.
But Ms. Ostroff has helped make MNT look better as her fall crop of new shows has not set the Nielsen world on fire. Ms. Ostroff has re-cast The CW in a new direction, letting go of Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars, Reba and Eight is Enough in favour of a new crop of shows that have underwhelmed in the Nielsens.
A few weeks back travisyanan wondered whether The CW should have given Veronica Mars: FBI a limited pick-up. By this point last year, Veronica Mars was out-rating in A18-49 every single new series that The CW programmed has programmed as replacement fare this year. Every single new series falls below Veronica's 1.2 young adult demographic (and yes, naysayers, there were repeats averaged into that number too).
As at Week 16 ending Jan.07/07: ------------------------------- Veronica Mars: 2.712 million viewers, 1.2 A18-49 average, 12 airings
As at Week 15 ending Jan.06/08: ------------------------------- Reaper: 2.860 million viewers, 1.1 A18-49 average, 13 airings Gossip Girl: 2.469 million viewers, 1.1 A18-49 average, 15 airings Crowned (originals): 1.954 million viewers, 0.9 A18-49 average, 4 airings Aliens in America (Monday): 1.892 million viewers, 0.7 A18-49 average, 15 airings Life is Wild: 1.200 million viewers, 0.4 A18-49 average, 12 airings CW Now: 0.799 million viewers, 0.3 A18-49 average, 15 airings Online Nation: 0.670 million viewers, 0.2 A18-49 average, 3 airings
Though Mr. Thomas is most gainfully employed over at the House of Mouse, having produced this seasons Big Shots, and readying Cupid for ABC's fall schedule, Ms. Ostroff should call him up to arrange lunch and see if its not too late to greenlight to series that exceptionally good Veronica Mars: FBI pilot that she took a pass on last June. I'm sure that Mr. Thomas, after muttering from behind his napkin something about an increased licensing fee, would only be to happy to help Ms. Ostoff lead her network out of the A18-49 downward spiral that it finds itself caught up in.
Ohhhhhh!. I know CW is doing very poorly but VM remains a show that needed to be canceled. Others were the mistakes made by Ostroff not VM's cancelation. VM was lucky enough to survive three seasons with those ratings. Not to mention Rob Thomas's idea for the 4th season was absurd. Why not make VM directly the US president?
