Personally, I think ES has a shot here. Both WAT and SVU are aging and losing viewers. ES was a character that kind of grew on me at the end of the season. I find his character likable, unlike the other 2 shows. If he retains a certain quirkiness and compassion, it will work. Depends on the storylines, I guess.
It depends on a lot of people responding the same way you did, and that didn't happen this season, now did it?
Originally posted by MadFuSkills: Hrm, from the numbers for WMC it looks like ABC picked with wrong horse with Eli Stone. The season-finale of Eli Stone had 6.13 million viewers and a 2.0/ 6 among adults 18-49. And it looks like WMC is a bit better.
ES skews slightly younger...and Dancing went over the hour, so I'd be looking at the second half hour of 7.6 mil, 1.9/5 for WMC last night as a better measure.
Personally, I'm happy with ABC's decision. I enjoyed ES and tried about 15 mins of WMC before switching channels.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: If you look below, it fell every week, on Thursdays, except the final to airings. Its small bump at the end is directly attributed from airing after Desperate Housewives.
And take a good look at its lead in. The drops were much less for Eli Stone each week than they were for Lost or the repeats ABC aired at 9pm once Lost was done with new eps.
I really love how when people like a show, they say it was picked up because of its ratings, and the network's decision was purely rational and correct, even though they ALSO say the ratings being low is only attributable to poor scheduling decisions made by that same network.
And when they hate a show, the exact opposite is invariably the case.
ES got picked up because the network put a lot of time and money into it, it wasn't on for very long, and they didn't have much to replace it with. Next season, it will get canceled because it will have been on long enough to establish it has zero potential for growth, and because they'll have put a lot of time and money into new shows that will be needing timeslots.
And this will happen over and over again, to one shortlived drama after another, and some people will just never learn, because deep down inside, they believe TV is JUST FOR THEM.
And take a good look at its lead in. The drops were much less for Eli Stone each week than they were for Lost or the repeats ABC aired at 9pm once Lost was done with new eps.
And take a look, if you will, at how many times Marc had Eli Stone down as a loser. But of course he's so BIASED. And you are so objective.
Personally, I think ES has a shot here. Both WAT and SVU are aging and losing viewers. ES was a character that kind of grew on me at the end of the season. I find his character likable, unlike the other 2 shows. If he retains a certain quirkiness and compassion, it will work. Depends on the storylines, I guess.
It depends on a lot of people responding the same way you did, and that didn't happen this season, now did it?
Ahh, maybe some are just a little slower. lol I also think the writer's strike screwed with people's viewing habits; as a new show it is different and has alot of potential. And WAT is just so boooring!
Originally posted by TV-aholic: It will be interesting to see how SVU does against WAT. this springs numbers for SVU was not all that great (Seemed lower than average for the other shows).
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Originally posted by total eclipse: Solid finale for SVU. I was sorry to see Diane Neal go. The numbers, however, not all that solid.
WaT isn't much of a hit anymore. SVU can do just fine, but I'd really want to see an improvement. I need my weekly dose of Mariska for years to come!
Originally posted by total eclipse: WaT isn't much of a hit anymore. SVU can do just fine, but I'd really want to see an improvement. I need my weekly dose of Mariska for years to come!
An I'll take my weekly dose of Poppy Montgomery & Roselyn Sanchez.
Originally posted by total eclipse: WaT isn't much of a hit anymore. SVU can do just fine, but I'd really want to see an improvement. I need my weekly dose of Mariska for years to come!
L&O:SVU will almost certainly come out on top of that battle. Of course, CBS may well move WaT back to Thursday night after a few weeks of Eleventh Hour failing.
Originally posted by Walter: Well in Reality, Eli Stone was not falling each week.
It was staying in the same range.
Thas why it was picked up.
If you look below, it fell every week, on Thursdays, except the final to airings. Its small bump at the end is directly attributed from airing after Desperate Housewives.
Eli Stone 2007-08 Weekly Ratings Track
Date Viewers 18-49
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02/07/08 11.14 M 4.0
02/14/08 8.83 M 3.3
02/21/08 7.46 M 2.6
02/28/08 7.19 M 2.5
03/06/08 7.15 M 2.5
03/13/08 7.14 M 2.4
03/20/08 6.92 M 2.3
03/27/08 6.53 M 1.9
04/03/08 5.15 M 1.6
04/10/08 5.88 M 1.8
04/13/08(S-10pm) 8.81 M 2.8
04/17/08 6.23 M 2.0
Originally posted by Obveeus: Of course, CBS may well move WaT back to Thursday night after a few weeks of Eleventh Hour failing.
Why do you think that the 11th Hour will fail?
It is a very compatible show with CSI and is a Bruckenhimer(sp) Project. I will still wait and reserve judgement untill I actually see it, but the description has me interested in the show.
Ahh, maybe some are just a little slower. lol I also think the writer's strike screwed with people's viewing habits; as a new show it is different and has alot of potential. And WAT is just so boooring!
Most network TV is boring, which is why people are watching less and less of it. Eli Stone is MEGA-boring, which is why it's one of the lowest-rated shows on any major network.
The strike saved it this time. It won't next time. End of story.
Originally posted by saraday: AI is up some from last week. I pray it is David A. that goes. But most of the performances were uninspiring, I agree. I was surprised by SVU season finale numbers. Didn't particularly like how the 2 characters exited, it was somewhat OOC, but I liked how they tied them together at the end. It will be interesting to see how Warrick leaves on Thursday's CSI since he is also accused of killing someone.
Overall, I liked the SVU finale mainly because of the intensity level.
But you make an interesting point esp about Casey Novak. Overall she was a stickler about evidence quality and at the beginning of the ep even barked at Benson and Stabler about not blowing an interrogation so it wouldn't be tossed. Then she pushes the envelope including a facedown with the ME behind closed doors. But her exit was legit enough. On Chester, we never knew him that well and he did tend to be fairly zealous.
Ditto on SVU's ratings as well.
As far as Neal, I thought she performed well in a series that just doesn't place a ton of emphasis on that ADA role. I expect her replacement to get less airtime as the series continues to pour more and more into Stabler and Benson.
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I can't speak on the Income level of the viewers, but as for the DVR viewers, they seem to be basing it on the PERCENATGE, not the raw number of "Eye Balls".
As we all know its easier for a lower rated show to get a higher DVR number when its based on percentages.
And take a good look at its lead in. The drops were much less for Eli Stone each week than they were for Lost or the repeats ABC aired at 9pm once Lost was done with new eps.
And take a look, if you will, at how many times Marc had Eli Stone down as a loser. But of course he's so BIASED. And you are so objective.
I'm not saying ratings were necessarily good. I'm just saying they weren't as bad from an advertisers perspective as say...Women's Murder Club or Men in Trees or October Road. And yes, that is why its back. On a regular year, Eli Stone would be canceled. But on a regular year it would never have aired in that slot, at least not behind Lost either.
