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Originally posted by Zedman2:

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Originally posted by vlis:
My estimate for the week in 18-49:
abc 2.9
cbs 2.5
nbc 2.4
fox 3.0

I think NBC should be about 2.1 and FOX about 3.4.

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Originally posted by robert:

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I wouldn't have a problem with that, as long as they depicted dogfighting as a bad thing, and didn't glamorize it

They did just that, and it was one of the best CSI episodes ever. But still it's hard to watch this kind of stuff even if it's fictional. Somehow it's easier for me to watch people getting tortured and killed

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Cold Case will have at least one more season, probably 2. They will use it to launch it's sister project, The Tower. I'd expect it on back on Sundays also.

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Originally posted by Walter:
Hey Cold Case thats more like it!!!!

11.48 million viewers

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Originally posted by Walter:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Cold Case will have at least one more season, probably 2. They will use it to launch it's sister project, The Tower. I'd expect it on back on Sundays also.

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Originally posted by Walter:
Hey Cold Case thats more like it!!!!

11.48 million viewers

The Tower whats that?

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Originally posted by Zedman2:

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Originally posted by vlis:
My estimate for the week in 18-49:
abc 2.9
cbs 2.5
nbc 2.4
fox 3.0

I think NBC should be about 2.1 and FOX about 3.4.

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Originally posted by tvchtw:
I know, some of these comments i'm really getting a laugh out of. It almost beat Grey's Thursday night episode, it retained 95% of its audience from 1 year ago and ABC has to be ecstatic that it still does so well nearing the end of its 4th (and much improved) season. It also ranked 25% above any other show last night. I agree the gabi/carlos storyline is getting old and they dont really know what to do with poor Edie but the rest of the cast and storylines are pretty strong right now and obviously most viewers agree because they're not running away in droves contrary to popular belief.

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Originally posted by vlis:
say what you want about DH, but it was the #2 scripted show of the week in the demo

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Originally posted by Pats12Fan:

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Originally posted by tvchtw:
I know, some of these comments i'm really getting a laugh out of. It almost beat Grey's Thursday night episode, it retained 95% of its audience from 1 year ago and ABC has to be ecstatic that it still does so well nearing the end of its 4th (and much improved) season. It also ranked 25% above any other show last night. I agree the gabi/carlos storyline is getting old and they dont really know what to do with poor Edie but the rest of the cast and storylines are pretty strong right now and obviously most viewers agree because they're not running away in droves contrary to popular belief.

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Originally posted by vlis:
say what you want about DH, but it was the #2 scripted show of the week in the demo

Didnt it beat Grey's episode last Thurs? I think it did. Grey's estimate was 16.0 and CSI's was 16.7 no? I dont know what Grey's final was but this DH should most likely go up to 16.5 on Tuesday.

And I just wanted to add that this season is NOT awful and has NOT lost "it" at all. Its just wrapping up the fourth season and is no longer the new hit sensation it was in season one. Thats different from being a bad show.

I do agree that the Gaby/Carlos stuff sucks and we are getting way too much of it post-strike, but everyone else's stuff I am loving and the Katherine mystery hasa been pretty good.

I also find it hilarious that still with over 16 million viewers and being the highest rated scripted show(as of now for season tro date numbers I believe) on tv that it's lost it and all this other nonsense, yet Brothers & Sisters is "must see" tv. LOL I think season two is nowhere near as good as season one, and if I'm losing interest fast in any show it's this one and not DH.

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Originally posted by tvfan300:
I enjoyed both DH and B&S last night. I know people are tired of the Gaby/Carlos storyline, but that is her character. Carlos is very limited now with his blindness, so perhaps there is an ending in sight for him. Edie just seems to be floating around, and the producers would have been better of letting her kill herself in last season's finale.

As for Brothers & Sisters, I was highly enthralled with last night's episode. The tension in all of the storylines was gripping. The stage has been set for a Walker family showdown next week.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
I'm glad to see Cold Case finally bouncing back. They had a great episode last night, and for a procedural, this show offers something a little different, with a blend of crime and sentimentality.
Desperate Housewives however can't catch a break. Can't blame the viewers for running for the hills though. This season is just awful!
Shame about AiA. It's definitely the best new comedy this season (and the best show on CW's sked), but no one watches it!

I tottally disagree with you
IMO Cold Case is one of the most boring procedural i've ever watched (and i've watched plenty). I like DH this season, and AIA is decent but better than BBT?

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
I agree. Cruelty to animals cannot be charming. Also, Nathan Fillion was absent last night, but instead we got the non-convincing Gary Cole in a plotline I don't care about. I wonder how long ABC is going to beat the dead horse called DH.

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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
DH just does not have "it" anymore. And Gabrielle has become totally unbearable.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
I'm glad to see Cold Case finally bouncing back. They had a great episode last night, and for a procedural, this show offers something a little different, with a blend of crime and sentimentality.
Desperate Housewives however can't catch a break. Can't blame the viewers for running for the hills though. This season is just awful!
Shame about AiA. It's definitely the best new comedy this season (and the best show on CW's sked), but no one watches it!

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Originally posted by Mredman:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
I'm glad to see Cold Case finally bouncing back. They had a great episode last night, and for a procedural, this show offers something a little different, with a blend of crime and sentimentality.
Desperate Housewives however can't catch a break. Can't blame the viewers for running for the hills though. This season is just awful!
Shame about AiA. It's definitely the best new comedy this season (and the best show on CW's sked), but no one watches it!

I tottally disagree with you
IMO Cold Case is one of the most boring procedural i've ever watched (and i've watched plenty). I like DH this season, and AIA is decent but better than BBT?

I agree with with you Cold case sucks big time. And DH is in its best season right now. And i never saw the appeal of brothers and sisters. i really think that show stinks to high heaven

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Originally posted by pisher:

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Ok, so in today's post strike, increasing DVR, overall viewership dropping like a rock for most shows environment. What kind of numbers should ABC expect for this "awful" show?

It's beside the point what they expect--we're not talking about whether or not they cancel it. We're talking about whether it's realistic to say "ABC is so happy with these numbers" when in fact ABC is looking at a very bleak future (as are all the networks) when they look at these numbers. DVR isn't going away. Dropping viewership isn't going away. Fragmenting audiences isn't going away. Rising production costs aren't going away. People getting increasingly bored with DH, Greys, Ugly Betty, etc, isn't going away.

They can't stay in business by spending more money for lower ratings, year after year. I understand that for you, as a fan, it's all about keeping 'your' show as long as possible. But for ABC, it's about money, and they are making a lot less of it.

And DH is going to do horribly in syndication.

Btw, where did I use the word "awful" in reference to DH in my last post?

For what it is, DH is fairly well done.

And I'd say the same thing about American Idol.

Which I don't watch.

And which is declining a lot more slowly than DH.

Networks also make money of their shows from DVD's and other merchandise and channels in other countries

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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
I think Gabrielle has become completely unlikable. And the whole dog think only solidifies that. Personally, I was competely uncomfortable with the whole thing.