Here, slower just for you. Socio-political commentary isn't "protraying real life" on TV. It means referring to certain situations that occur in a familiar social terrain. Thus, for example, a comedy that mocks middle class latent racism is social commentary but not necessarily "protraying real life". Commentary can be made through farce and exaggeration in order to make a point. Next, "protraying real life" situations such as cruelty to animals isn't necessarily social commentary. Do you think last night's DH's ep made any attempt at social commentary, esp with the Gabrielle - Roxy storyline? of course not! I hope it's clear now.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Pretty simple.
One reason you like AiA is for its Social Commentary.
You feel that Just beacuse things happen in real life, they don't need to be seen on TV.
So, where is the line draw between Having Social Commentary and not protraying real life on TV?
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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Originally posted by total eclipse: AiA offers something BBT cannot offer - some degree of social commentary, even critique of American suburban snobbery and middle class racism.
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Originally posted by total eclipse: Just because some things occur in real life, doesn't mean they have to be portrayed on TV. Networks and artists do have responsibility, and like I said, you don't know how other people react to certain images.
How can you champion Social Comentary within a show, but in the same thread, chastise another series for depeicting characters as real people that do bad things?
How can you purposefully misread posts the way you do? One of nature's big mysteries, I guess. Read them all again, maybe then you'll figure out there is no contradiction at all.
Its been crystal clear of your double standard. You only want images that depict what YOU want.
If someone in Middle suburban america watched AiA and was upset by its images ans story line, Isn't is the networks and artists responsibility to know how other people react to those certain images and plots?
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Originally posted by total eclipse: Here, slower just for you. Socio-political commentary isn't "protraying real life" on TV. It means referring to certain situations that occur in a familiar social terrain. Thus, for example, a comedy that mocks middle class latent racism is social commentary but not necessarily "protraying real life". Commentary can be made through farce and exaggeration in order to make a point. Next, "protraying real life" situations such as cruelty to animals isn't necessarily social commentary. Do you think last night's DH's ep made any attempt at social commentary, esp with the Gabrielle - Roxy storyline? of course not! I hope it's clear now.
Apparently, you don't understand what a social commentary is and confuse it with realism. I just explained your error to you. It's ok to be wrong sometimes, not ok to attack those try and help you. Perhaps a second reading will help you, as I think I was clear. Good luck!
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Its been crystal clear of your double standard. You only want images that depict what YOU want.
If someone in Middle suburban america watched AiA and was upset by its images ans story line, Isn't is the networks and artists responsibility to know how other people react to those certain images and plots?
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Originally posted by total eclipse: Here, slower just for you. Socio-political commentary isn't "protraying real life" on TV. It means referring to certain situations that occur in a familiar social terrain. Thus, for example, a comedy that mocks middle class latent racism is social commentary but not necessarily "protraying real life". Commentary can be made through farce and exaggeration in order to make a point. Next, "protraying real life" situations such as cruelty to animals isn't necessarily social commentary. Do you think last night's DH's ep made any attempt at social commentary, esp with the Gabrielle - Roxy storyline? of course not! I hope it's clear now.
Cold Case will have at least one more season, probably 2. They will use it to launch it's sister project, The Tower. I'd expect it on back on Sundays also.
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Originally posted by Walter: Hey Cold Case thats more like it!!!!
NBC is just waiting on football to fix their Sundays. CW needs to radically redo their Sundays. Comedies aren't going to work and nor does their cheap reality. Right now they have given up on the night.
I expected Family Guy's ratings to be kind of low as it has been all over in ratings this year.
CBS is having better luck then NBC with there cable shows being shown on network television. I'm already waiting for the 2 hour (1 hour each; 2 episodes) season finale of Dexter. I hope CBS shows the 2nd season in the summer, then I will order Showtime for season 3.
Next fall, the comedies from The CW belong on Friday's. I bet they could produce better ratings. However I still love Aliens in America. It is a very funny show, but theres no viewers. As a matter a fact I DVR'ed it, so I'm going to go watch it right now.
Posts: 2134 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: 02 January 2008
Originally posted by pisher: Oh and btw, Seeing Eye Dogs are very carefully screened for aggression issues--only the calmest and most unflappable dogs get through the program. Somebody not liking a Seeing Eye Dog would not be nearly enough to cause that dog to reciprocate. So really, it's the DOGS being insulted here.
What about that seeing eye dog on OZ that attacked the prison guard? OZ was real, right?
I've never seen DH, but I think the fake blind guy should get a helper monkey. Everyone loves monkeys.
Originally posted by total eclipse: I agree. Cruelty to animals cannot be charming.
What cruelty to animals?
Did you watch the ep last night at all? Gabrielle's disgusting treatment of Carlos' dog definitely qualifies. I was half surprised the writers didn't go as far as have Gabrielle run over the Roxie or try and poison her.
Seems to me that the dog better than held her own with Gabby. In the Battle of the Bitches, I would say it was, at best, a draw.
YMMV.
Posts: 66 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 25 February 2008
Originally posted by vlis: as a dog owner, what is it that she actually did to the dog?
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I think Gabrielle has become completely unlikable. And the whole dog think only solidifies that. Personally, I was competely uncomfortable with the whole thing.I was flipping channels so maybe i'm wrong, but she basically threw him out, and shw didn't do it very gentle
I was flipping channels so maybe i'm wrong, but she basically threw him out, and shw didn't do it very gentle
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She lured the dog into her car by using a dog biscuit, drove the dog back to the Guide Dog Training Center and returned her (the dog--Roxy) to the Center because Gabby believed that the dog was usurping her place with Carlos. There was no animal cruelty.
The dog broke loose from the trainer and followed Gabby back home, whined and scratched at the door to be let back in. After Edie showed up with dog biscuits and made a short (and entirely sensible) speech to Gabby about taking care of Carlos because he needed to be taken care of now, Gabby acquiesced and the 3 of them are now getting along famously.
Yes, I'm a DH fan. What of it?
Forgot to add, I don't believe that Carlos is faking his blindness. He really is blind. I also believe that when the show flashes forward 5 years during the season finale, Carlos will have regained his sight somehow. Medical miracle? Writer trickery? Major continuity error? Who knows?
Does it matter, really?
The show is a soap opera, people. Not reality.
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Posts: 66 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 25 February 2008
Does anyone have the DVR numbers for a week whent there was a new Lost? I'd guess Lost is a heavily DVRed show.
The last episode before hiatus (March 20th) Ranked 2nd. It also ranked 2nd for the episode on March 13th. March 6th ranked 3rd, so yes it does rank high.
Posts: 2134 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: 02 January 2008
