Minds has evolved into a somewhat younger slanting show for CBS as the years have gone on, while NY, which up until a few years ago had the typical younger CSI slant, is starting to look more and more like a WAT, CC type of audience
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Considering it beat Heroes in viewership, I'm not surprised. If NBC wants to keep Trauma around, it must move Wednesdays at 8 PM. It would be perfect counterprogramming, even against Idol. Mercy has too much of an Idol overlap audience.
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Originally posted by lopez: NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled 'Trauma'
Originally posted by pisher: Well, then--this proves Trauma is successful, and NBC is happy with it.
Right?
No, it only means the headline you responded to should have read " Troubled NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled Trauma."
But it will also presumably allow the "why is Mercy picked up when Trauma isn't?" discussion to fade into the darkness, unless of course, I have provoked it all over again
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Originally posted by pisher: Well, then--this proves Trauma is successful, and NBC is happy with it.
Right?
If that's true (it is Nikki Finke) then I congratulate the folks who cherry-picked the one week out of like six or seven that it outdrew Mercy and said that was an overwhelming reason to pick up additional episodes. Shows how much I know.
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No critic will give it a second look. IT's an uneven show... but MOST first year shows are. It's infinitely better than its pilot was.
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Originally posted by Bruce: I would say Mercy is "persisting" and from what little I've seen of it, its quality is improving, but not nearly enough nor getting the kind of attention that would affect the course it is on.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Unfortunately, I don't. I think when American Idol comes in, the momentum will be lost. Looks like to me a temporary spike in the numbers. Last week it was a 1.7.
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Originally posted by Troxa: Wow. Mercy won the hour in viewers and it came quite close to cracking 8 million viewers.
You've made a lot of great analysis and predictions. No need to be hard on yourself over NBC. NBC does loads of crazy things. They are the most unpredictable.
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Originally posted by spotupj: Shows how much I know.
Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Considering it beat Heroes in viewership, I'm not surprised. If NBC wants to keep Trauma around, it must move Wednesdays at 8 PM. It would be perfect counterprogramming, even against Idol. Mercy has too much of an Idol overlap audience.
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Originally posted by lopez: NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled 'Trauma'
I agree with your assessment Wlcm (what do I call you for short?)
Mercy went up this week basically because last week it got crap ratings against the CMA's... which makes sense since both are very female-driven. Last week was basically a sneak peek of what Mercy will be getting against AI... but will be much worse. Put Trauma there for some counterprogramming, and slot in Mercy alongside Chuck somewhere, I guess... (or on Fridays...)
Was there ever an official confirmation of the Chuck episode extension? I don't recall one. Someone at NBC might have (intelligently!) decided to not bring Chuck back until after the Olympics could serve as a promotional platform... which means that there needed to be extra Trauma to fill the January gap?
Anyway, this decision is so painfully obviously tied to NBC's lack of midseason programming and multitude of gaping holes in its schedule that it literally hurts to think about.
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Originally posted by lopez: NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled 'Trauma'
Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: ANTM has been down a lot this year. For some reason, interest is declining.
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Originally posted by trebek: The ANTM finale could not even get over 4 million?
The CW should do a male version of ANTM.
They should have started a male ANTM as a summer series YEARS ago. Now it's too late.
I'm not sure if a male version would have done well even during ANTM's heyday. Men don't cause enough drama and I'm not sure that females would be that interested in it. Bravo tried a male model show that didn't do well. The Bravo model show that has aired the last two seasons does pretty bad ratings. Plus, how could the "fabulous" Tyra be the mentor to a bunch of guys?
Originally posted by pisher: Well, then--this proves Trauma is successful, and NBC is happy with it.
Right?
No, it only means the headline you responded to should have read " Troubled NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled Trauma."
But it will also presumably allow the "why is Mercy picked up when Trauma isn't?" discussion to fade into the darkness, unless of course, I have provoked it all over again
You won't provoke it from me, because I'll never see either show.
Honestly, though--while it's obviously a nice thing for the people making a show when it gets a partial pick-up, or a full season, or gets renewed--it doesn't prove success. Networks make decisions like this based on a lot of factors besides ratings, many of which we are not privy to--and very often they're bad decisions. That's why it never fazes me when people say "That show you hate that I love got picked up--that means it's doing great and the network is happy!"
And a short while later, they're screaming insults at that very same network, and accusing it of never supporting said show. And I'm carving another notch on my belt. Metaphorically, of course.
nbc probably just picking enough episodes to air til the Olympics, and if it ratings go up at all they will bring it back, but it now seems chuck will be back in march
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Originally posted by a-mad:
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Considering it beat Heroes in viewership, I'm not surprised. If NBC wants to keep Trauma around, it must move Wednesdays at 8 PM. It would be perfect counterprogramming, even against Idol. Mercy has too much of an Idol overlap audience.
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Originally posted by lopez: NBC Picks Up Ratings Troubled 'Trauma'
I agree with your assessment Wlcm (what do I call you for short?)
Mercy went up this week basically because last week it got crap ratings against the CMA's... which makes sense since both are very female-driven. Last week was basically a sneak peek of what Mercy will be getting against AI... but will be much worse. Put Trauma there for some counterprogramming, and slot in Mercy alongside Chuck somewhere, I guess... (or on Fridays...)
No surprise there about 2nd looks. The Elizabeth Moss ep which I caught on rerun the other nite was a good news/bad news thing in that there were some very strong moments that only showed how weak the show can be during its uneven moments. One rap from numerous critics that I couldn't understand was that the show was generic. It struck me, as I've posted before, as almost the "anti-nurse" series. I mean, did the nurses on ER act like these women?
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: No critic will give it a second look. IT's an uneven show... but MOST first year shows are. It's infinitely better than its pilot was.
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Originally posted by Bruce: I would say Mercy is "persisting" and from what little I've seen of it, its quality is improving, but not nearly enough nor getting the kind of attention that would affect the course it is on.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Unfortunately, I don't. I think when American Idol comes in, the momentum will be lost. Looks like to me a temporary spike in the numbers. Last week it was a 1.7.
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Originally posted by Troxa: Wow. Mercy won the hour in viewers and it came quite close to cracking 8 million viewers.
I think this show is a grower.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Unfortunately, I don't. I think when American Idol comes in, the momentum will be lost. Looks like to me a temporary spike in the numbers. Last week it was a 1.7.
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Originally posted by Troxa: Wow. Mercy won the hour in viewers and it came quite close to cracking 8 million viewers.
