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ML always does the same whether it be in repeats or new episodes. It always loses some audience and demo from GW, drags down the 9:00 hour, but then CBS comes back up to GW ratings with Numbers at 10:00. The only reason it always finishes first or second in viewers and demo is strictly because the other networks refuse to program against it. If ABC or FOX had any decent show against ML it would finish third or fourth in it time period. Personally, I think CBS could do much better in that time period between GW and Numbers, but something tells me they will renew it because of the fanatical, loud and outgoing fan base it commands on the internet. They are small, but make their voices heard.
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if this was 1978 ABC would have been the network to beat.. according to my book, *the complete directory to prime time tv* Donny and Marie, and the ABC Friday night movie were the shows to watch on Friday night.... ABC probably wishes it was 1978, with the shows that were on back then (i.e.) Mork and Mindy, Threes Company, Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley.
and Tonight could have been watched by at least 40 million people if The Facts of Life, 227, Golden Girls, Amen, and Hunter were on... but we know tonight is another Harry Potter movie, and procedurials on CBS and Law and Order night on NBC
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Your opinions are inconsistent and make little sense. quote: Originally posted by Walter: 8 p.m. My Name is Earl (NBC) Viewers: 6.77 million (#3), A18-49: 2.6/ 9 (#2)
8:30 p.m. 30 Rock Viewers: 6.42 million (#3), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2) My Name is Earl and 30 rocks are failures and they should be axed.
quote: Originally posted by Walter: Canterbury’s Law (Viewers: #3, 4.68 million; A18-49: #4, 1.0/ 3)
No No!
Canterbury still has a chance.
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| Posts: 5959 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 |    |
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If this were 1978, there would be little competition from Video Games, Cable TV Networks and overall progress in Entertainment Alternatives. quote: Originally posted by tvratingsjunkie: if this was 1978 ABC would have been the network to beat.. according to my book, *the complete directory to prime time tv* Donny and Marie, and the ABC Friday night movie were the shows to watch on Friday night.... ABC probably wishes it was 1978, with the shows that were on back then (i.e.) Mork and Mindy, Threes Company, Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley.
and Tonight could have been watched by at least 40 million people if The Facts of Life, 227, Golden Girls, Amen, and Hunter were on... but we know tonight is another Harry Potter movie, and procedurials on CBS and Law and Order night on NBC
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| Posts: 5959 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 |    |
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When you run a network with a reputation for skewing old and getting little publicity for your shows (Desperate Housewives vs. NCIS - which is written about more?), you tend to listen to the loud and outgoing fan base provided they are in your target demographic. quote: Originally posted by Twins12: ML always does the same whether it be in repeats or new episodes. It always loses some audience and demo from GW, drags down the 9:00 hour, but then CBS comes back up to GW ratings with Numbers at 10:00. The only reason it always finishes first or second in viewers and demo is strictly because the other networks refuse to program against it. If ABC or FOX had any decent show against ML it would finish third or fourth in it time period. Personally, I think CBS could do much better in that time period between GW and Numbers, but something tells me they will renew it because of the fanatical, loud and outgoing fan base it commands on the internet. They are small, but make their voices heard.
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| Posts: 5959 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Your opinions are inconsistent and make little sense. quote: Originally posted by Walter: 8 p.m. My Name is Earl (NBC) Viewers: 6.77 million (#3), A18-49: 2.6/ 9 (#2)
8:30 p.m. 30 Rock Viewers: 6.42 million (#3), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2) My Name is Earl and 30 rocks are failures and they should be axed.
quote: Originally posted by Walter: Canterbury’s Law (Viewers: #3, 4.68 million; A18-49: #4, 1.0/ 3)
No No!
Canterbury still has a chance.
I hate 30 Rock, but if any show would be cancelled, it would be Canterbury, it's demo is wayyyyyy to low and its viewership is quite low.
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| Posts: 2282 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: 02 January 2008 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Walter: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: OK numbers for Moonlight, though slightly (but inconclusively) lower than the last two repeats back in February. The demo is slightly low as well, but then again, it's a repeat, therefore inconclusive. Hard to tell what will happen next week with a new episode, the first in three months! Shame about CL. I think it has zero chances of coming back now. No justice - CL (and perhaps NA) not coming back, but pure crap like Prison Break will.
No No! Canterbury still has a chance.
Keep dreamin. Maybe George Bush will win the next election too.
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And that's the problem with Moonves. He doesa great job of getting shows that out there that his established audience loves. He just doesn't seem to get that this sort of stuff, which probably would be an instant hit on other nets, will only hit the mediocre category here. I won't lose any sleep over it coming back though and unless it collapses next week, it has a better chance than Shark, which was thrown to the dogs and the Unit, which was never given a post-strike shot. quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: When you run a network with a reputation for skewing old and getting little publicity for your shows (Desperate Housewives vs. NCIS - which is written about more?), you tend to listen to the loud and outgoing fan base provided they are in your target demographic. quote: Originally posted by Twins12: ML always does the same whether it be in repeats or new episodes. It always loses some audience and demo from GW, drags down the 9:00 hour, but then CBS comes back up to GW ratings with Numbers at 10:00. The only reason it always finishes first or second in viewers and demo is strictly because the other networks refuse to program against it. If ABC or FOX had any decent show against ML it would finish third or fourth in it time period. Personally, I think CBS could do much better in that time period between GW and Numbers, but something tells me they will renew it because of the fanatical, loud and outgoing fan base it commands on the internet. They are small, but make their voices heard.
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CBS's problem is that it can't find a non-procedural hit to save its life. Virtually all of it's hour-longs that do well are procedurals. Granted, CBS has done very well with them, but as the appetite wanes for procedurals (and it is - the numbers are down for almost all of them), CBS will be in trouble.
Same goes for ABC with dramedies. Fox, out of all of the networks, surprisingly seems to have the most balances schedule. It has two hit procedurals (House & Bones), two hit reality series (AI and MoT), a hit serial (24), and several hit 1/2 hours (The Simpsons, FG). If viewer tastes turn from any one of these types of series, Fox is well prepared to weather the storm.
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quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: And that's the problem with Moonves. He doesa great job of getting shows that out there that his established audience loves....
Plus, by keeping one show in particular on the air he increases his chance of getting a little "nookie" at home.
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quote: Originally posted by Twins12: ML always does the same whether it be in repeats or new episodes. It always loses some audience and demo from GW, drags down the 9:00 hour, but then CBS comes back up to GW ratings with Numbers at 10:00. The only reason it always finishes first or second in viewers and demo is strictly because the other networks refuse to program against it. If ABC or FOX had any decent show against ML it would finish third or fourth in it time period. Personally, I think CBS could do much better in that time period between GW and Numbers, but something tells me they will renew it because of the fanatical, loud and outgoing fan base it commands on the internet. They are small, but make their voices heard.
No, This is NOT Moonlight's doings. When GW reran at 9p after TPiR, the same thing happened. The numbers for 9 tanked compared to 8, then spiked again for 10. It's not the show, it's the time. And having a dedicated fandom is a PLUS. Every network wishes its shows had such following. Other try to generate a similar buzz, but fail (Heroes comes to mind).
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quote: Originally posted by DB108: CBS's problem is that it can't find a non-procedural hit to save its life.
DB108, may I introduce to you How I met your Mother, Two and Half Men and The Big Bang Theory.
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FOX sending a show to Friday is the first step in a two-step process. The next step: cancellation. quote: Originally posted by Walter: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: OK numbers for Moonlight, though slightly (but inconclusively) lower than the last two repeats back in February. The demo is slightly low as well, but then again, it's a repeat, therefore inconclusive. Hard to tell what will happen next week with a new episode, the first in three months! Shame about CL. I think it has zero chances of coming back now. No justice - CL (and perhaps NA) not coming back, but pure crap like Prison Break will.
No No! Canterbury still has a chance.
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| Posts: 7644 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 19 November 2006 |    |
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And Rules of Engagement as well. Survivor and TAR also pull in decent numbers. quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: quote: Originally posted by DB108: CBS's problem is that it can't find a non-procedural hit to save its life.
DB108, may I introduce to you How I met your Mother, Two and Half Men and The Big Bang Theory.
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| Posts: 7644 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 19 November 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Your opinions are inconsistent and make little sense. quote: Originally posted by Walter: 8 p.m. My Name is Earl (NBC) Viewers: 6.77 million (#3), A18-49: 2.6/ 9 (#2)
8:30 p.m. 30 Rock Viewers: 6.42 million (#3), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2) My Name is Earl and 30 rocks are failures and they should be axed.
quote: Originally posted by Walter: Canterbury’s Law (Viewers: #3, 4.68 million; A18-49: #4, 1.0/ 3)
No No!
Canterbury still has a chance.
Ok well for your info is retarted.
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