I have to say. I saw the first hour of OR last nite and thought it was one of the better episodes so far. It was too late so i did not watch the second hour of the finale yet. Anybody else watch? thoughts?
just a few comments, does it ever snow in the Ridge? It always seems to be fall. Maybe I missed it, but where does the title, OR, come from; I don't see how it ties into the show.
Originally posted by vlis: I have to say. I saw the first hour of OR last nite and thought it was one of the better episodes so far. It was too late so i did not watch the second hour of the finale yet. Anybody else watch? thoughts?
just a few comments, does it ever snow in the Ridge? It always seems to be fall. Maybe I missed it, but where does the title, OR, come from; I don't see how it ties into the show.
I only got to see the first hr too, watching the rest tonight. It was really good, from what I saw I really think it deserves another season. I hope Kirstin is right that if ABC doesn't pick OR up that the CW or Lifetime will.
Maybe I missed it, but where does the title, OR, come from; I don't see how it ties into the show.
From what I recall from the series premiere, it refers to an actual road in his hometown, basically separating the "good" and "bad" parts of the neighborhood. I remember his former best friend telling him "you gotta decide which side of October Road you belong..."
Beyond that, I think it's also supposed to bring to mind the New England Autumn season when the leaves turn.
Belatedly responding to somebody who said Marc should be calling for The Simpsons to be canceled, as much as he calls for ER to be canceled.
Leaving aside the fact that The Simpsons is far more profitable for its network than ER, gets better ratings relatively speaking, has all its original characters (well, except Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure--miss ya, Phil), and ER has NONE of its original characters--leaving all that aside, can I just ask--how many ER movies have there been? And if there was an ER movie, does anybody think there's the slightest chance it wouldn't flop?
Probably there was no real necessity for Peanuts to run as long as it did, but does that mean the strip should have folded in the 70's, with Schulz still wanting to draw it, and people still wanting to read it?
The Simpsons isn't like other TV shows. There's no reason to it to end as long as the people who are essential to it still want to do it.
ER, otoh, is just the latest version of Dr. Kildare and Ben Casey--which were canceled a long time ago, and NOBODY CARES.
The Simpsons still scores among adults 18-49 and deserves a spot on the schedule.
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Originally posted by pisher: Belatedly responding to somebody who said Marc should be calling for The Simpsons to be canceled, as much as he calls for ER to be canceled.
Leaving aside the fact that The Simpsons is far more profitable for its network than ER, gets better ratings relatively speaking, has all its original characters (well, except Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure--miss ya, Phil), and ER has NONE of its original characters--leaving all that aside, can I just ask--how many ER movies have there been? And if there was an ER movie, does anybody think there's the slightest chance it wouldn't flop?
Probably there was no real necessity for Peanuts to run as long as it did, but does that mean the strip should have folded in the 70's, with Schulz still wanting to draw it, and people still wanting to read it?
The Simpsons isn't like other TV shows. There's no reason to it to end as long as the people who are essential to it still want to do it.
ER, otoh, is just the latest version of Dr. Kildare--which was canceled a long time ago, and NOBODY CARES.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: The Simpsons still scores among adults 18-49 and deserves a spot on the schedule.
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Originally posted by pisher: Belatedly responding to somebody who said Marc should be calling for The Simpsons to be canceled, as much as he calls for ER to be canceled.
Leaving aside the fact that The Simpsons is far more profitable for its network than ER, gets better ratings relatively speaking, has all its original characters (well, except Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure--miss ya, Phil), and ER has NONE of its original characters--leaving all that aside, can I just ask--how many ER movies have there been? And if there was an ER movie, does anybody think there's the slightest chance it wouldn't flop?
Probably there was no real necessity for Peanuts to run as long as it did, but does that mean the strip should have folded in the 70's, with Schulz still wanting to draw it, and people still wanting to read it?
The Simpsons isn't like other TV shows. There's no reason to it to end as long as the people who are essential to it still want to do it.
ER, otoh, is just the latest version of Dr. Kildare--which was canceled a long time ago, and NOBODY CARES.
Marc,
Here are the ratings for 2 shows from their most recent new airing:
Show #1: Viewers: 8.97 million (#2), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#1) Show #2: Viewers: 7.28 million (#3), A18-49: 3.5/10 (#1t)
Show #1 you constantly berate and say it should be canceled. Show #2, you constantly give your blessing and say it should stay on the air.
Show #1 = ER Show #2 = Simpsons
Could you please explain why one of these shows in your mind performs so badly and should be put to rest, while the other one is doing great?
Can you only create threads for shows AL likes and change the name of this forum to AL's PIFeedback?
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Originally posted by AL: Great! Now quick... everybody make that post you have been waiting to make in the My Dad is Better Than Your Dad show thread... quick...
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Not Marc, but honestly, this is so easy to answer--
1)The Simpsons costs far less to produce. Almost any one hour drama costs more than The Simpsons, but ER, due to the duration of its run, is massively expensive.
2)The Simpsons is worth a fortune in merchandising, licensing fees, and is a valuable (and universally recognized) corporate symbol for the FOX Network. NBC hardly gets the same benefits from ER, particularly given that all its most famous and well-liked stars have long since left the building.
3)Sheesh, with pathetic competition on Thursdays, ER can't even top The Simpsons in the demo?
It's nothing to do with what Marc says. Marc has never argued that The Simpsons should stay on the air. Why would anyone bother to argue that? There's not the slightest chance The Simpsons will be canceled in the next five years. There's not the slightest chance ER won't be.
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Marc,
Here are the ratings for 2 shows from their most recent new airing:
Show #1: Viewers: 8.97 million (#2), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#1) Show #2: Viewers: 7.28 million (#3), A18-49: 3.5/10 (#1t)
Show #1 you constantly berate and say it should be canceled. Show #2, you constantly give your blessing and say it should stay on the air.
Show #1 = ER Show #2 = Simpsons
Could you please explain why one of these shows in your mind performs so badly and should be put to rest, while the other one is doing great?
-Percent Change From the Year-Ago Evening (Monday, March 11, 2007) NBC and Fox: +13 each, CW: -25, CBS: -27, ABC: -34
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-Yesterday’s Winners: Two and a Half Men R (CBS), Deal or No Deal (NBC)
-Promising Start: Canterbury’s Law (Fox)
-Yesterday’s Losers (Excluding Repeats): My Dad is Better Than Your Dad (NBC), October Road (ABC), Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious (CW)
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-Ratings Breakdown: There is not much you can say when the top-rated network averages below a 7-rating in the metered markets. On that note, CBS opened this second Monday of March first in the metered markets, followed by NBC, Fox, ABC and the CW. Dominance among adults 18-49, however, could fall in either CBS, NBC or Fox’s court.
In series-premiere news, Fox legal drama Canterbury’s Law (headlined by the riveting Julianna Margulies) got off to a respectable start, with a first-place 5.7 rating/9 share in the overnights at 8 p.m. One year earlier, however, a repeat of House was stronger at a 6.9/11 on March 12, 2007. Canterbury’s Law led into the time period premiere of New Amsterdam, which rose to 6.1/ 9 at 9 p.m. Comparably, that ranked third in the time period, 27 percent below year-ago occupant 24 (8.4/13).
CBS opened the evening with a repeat of How I Met Your Mother (#3: 4.7/ 7), followed by an 8:30 p.m. installment of The New Adventures of Old Christine (#2t: 5.3/ 8), a repeat of Two and a Half Men (#1: 8.2/12), the regularly scheduled edition of Old Christine (#2: 6.6/10) and a repeat of CSI: Miami (#1: 7.3/12). The Eye net, no doubt, was looking to see if Old Christine would compete at 8:30 p.m. The prognosis: not very positive.
Next Monday on CBS, it is a night of all original sitcoms beginning with addictive The Big Bang Theory now at 8 p.m.
NBC began on a quiet note care of reality/competition My Dad is Better Than Your Dad at a fourth-place 3.8/ 6 at 8 p.m. But Deal or No Deal, now in the Monday 9 p.m. hour, perked up to a second-place 7.3/11 from 9-10 p.m. – 92 percent above My Dad is Better Than Your Dad. Capping off the evening for NBC was drama Medium, with a second-place 6.9/11 at 10 p.m. Considering Medium faced an encore telecast of CSI: Miami, this is disappointing.
ABC 8 p.m. special The Bachelor: Where Are They Now? got some sampling, with a second-place 5.3/ 8 in the overnights. But the final two episodes of drama October Road dipped to a mere 3.3/ 5 from 9-11 p.m., ultimately sealing its fate.
Last was the CW’s combination of a repeat of the already renewed Gossip Girl (1.1/ 2), which the network is hoping will pick up steam next season, and reality/competition Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious (1.4/ 2), which is about to lose this time period to the soon-to-relocate One Tree Hill. Chances are there will not be a third season for Pussycat Dolls.
Originally posted by xwiseguyx: One more request Marc.
Can you only create threads for shows AL likes and change the name of this forum to AL's PIFeedback?
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Originally posted by AL: Great! Now quick... everybody make that post you have been waiting to make in the My Dad is Better Than Your Dad show thread... quick...
wiseguy, I was just poking fun at that show. And I actually have watched that show because my kids enjoy it. Just don't see it as a heavily discussed show on a forum. But hey, maybe I am wrong.
