Blue Collar TV is exactly the type show networks should be looking at if they want to reinvent the variety show. It had a decent sized audeince and did well for the WB.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Actually, Blue Color TV (On the WB) was the best attempt at this in the past decade, or two. It had the Carol Burnet Show feel to it.
The only problems with Blue Collar TV were: A: It was on the WB- the most un-blue collar network around at that time. B: The WB felt the need to air it in several timeslots in just a few seasons. It would be in my opinion, a good revival for MyNetworkTV. Perhaps it would get the smackdown audience to come over.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: Blue Collar TV is exactly the type show networks should be looking at if they want to reinvent the variety show. It had a decent sized audeince and did well for the WB.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Actually, Blue Color TV (On the WB) was the best attempt at this in the past decade, or two. It had the Carol Burnet Show feel to it.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: The only problems with Blue Collar TV were: A: It was on the WB- the most un-blue collar network around at that time. B: The WB felt the need to air it in several timeslots in just a few seasons. It would be in my opinion, a good revival for MyNetworkTV. Perhaps it would get the smackdown audience to come over.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: Blue Collar TV is exactly the type show networks should be looking at if they want to reinvent the variety show. It had a decent sized audeince and did well for the WB.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Actually, Blue Color TV (On the WB) was the best attempt at this in the past decade, or two. It had the Carol Burnet Show feel to it.
I agree with mushu...this series would fit within the MyNetworkTV sked quite nicely, and have good cross-over to their other M18-49 focused series.
It got very good numbers for The WB in the first season, and only fell in the second season because it was thrown to the wolves on Sunday (up against 'Desperate Housewives') and barely promoted.
The first season of 30 episodes averaged 1.4 A18-49 and 3.4 million viewers (its preem got 5.4 million viewers to watch).
The second season of 13 episodes (where it got moved to Sundays at 9 pm) averaged 1.0 A18-49 and 2.4 million viewers.
However, this Sunday at 9 pm performance was not enough, and when The CW was formed, 'Blue Collar' was one of the first series jettisoned by the newly merged network. The new braintrust running the network seemed particularly hell-bent on getting rid of 'Blue Collar' and 'Reba', and 'Reba' was only saved because of that contractual two-season pick-up that The CW couldn't wiggle out of.
I don't think you bring back Blue-Collar TV at all (It had its chance). But you use that tone and feel to create a new Variety show.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: The only problems with Blue Collar TV were: A: It was on the WB- the most un-blue collar network around at that time. B: The WB felt the need to air it in several timeslots in just a few seasons. It would be in my opinion, a good revival for MyNetworkTV. Perhaps it would get the smackdown audience to come over.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: Blue Collar TV is exactly the type show networks should be looking at if they want to reinvent the variety show. It had a decent sized audeince and did well for the WB.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Actually, Blue Color TV (On the WB) was the best attempt at this in the past decade, or two. It had the Carol Burnet Show feel to it.
those chimps were smart enough to program a sweeps win.
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Once again the ABC chimps can't figure out how to program holiday evenings. Pushing Daisies can't hit 5 million. Private Practice original ep that could air on Thursday is wasted again. Barbara saves the evening and probably sweeps. Its not that hard. The Polar Express would've been an easy fix for last night into the news special. Then they could've found a pair of other holiday movies for tonight and Friday.
Originally posted by vlis: those chimps were smart enough to program a sweeps win.
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Once again the ABC chimps can't figure out how to program holiday evenings. Pushing Daisies can't hit 5 million. Private Practice original ep that could air on Thursday is wasted again. Barbara saves the evening and probably sweeps. Its not that hard. The Polar Express would've been an easy fix for last night into the news special. Then they could've found a pair of other holiday movies for tonight and Friday.
Those chimps LUCKED into a sweeps win.
Not even considering the CMA's instead of their Wednesday night crapfest or 5,000 hours of DWTS, take out the ratings for election night and those two college football games, and then let's talk about ABC's great sweeps performance.
oh ok...but we'll be sure to count in those football overruns on CBS.
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Those chimps LUCKED into a sweeps win.
Not even considering the CMA's instead of their Wednesday night crapfest or 5,000 hours of DWTS, take out the ratings for election night and those two college football games, and then let's talk about ABC's great sweeps performance.
The only thing ABC does well yet are sweeps stunt programming, but sweeps are meaning less and less all the time. ABC could've had a better 18-49 demo with the Polar Express on Wed. along with the Walters special. Then the new eps of Private Practice could've aired these next three weeks to higher rated results. If ABC was wise now, they would ship Pushing Daisies to Saturdays and find something to fill that Wed. 8pm hour (perhaps more news specials or something) as long as original episodes of PP are airing on Wed. There's no sense in hurting a show you're trying to save. If ABC were the brilliant sweeps programmers you claim they are, they wouldn't have been airing shows that were canceled at all (as much as I love all three of them). Primetime in place of Eli Stone and other programming in the third week in place of Pushing Daisies would've made much more sense and helped the Tuesday-Wednesday numbers.
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Originally posted by vlis: those chimps were smart enough to program a sweeps win.
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Once again the ABC chimps can't figure out how to program holiday evenings. Pushing Daisies can't hit 5 million. Private Practice original ep that could air on Thursday is wasted again. Barbara saves the evening and probably sweeps. Its not that hard. The Polar Express would've been an easy fix for last night into the news special. Then they could've found a pair of other holiday movies for tonight and Friday.
I don't mind counting football or the CMAs even but ABC really overdid the Dancing this time around. The unnecessary recap specials are only going to dilute the franchise in the long run. As long as ABC is airing Dancing twice a year, it should only have an hour long performance show and a 30 minute results show.
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Originally posted by vlis: oh ok...but we'll be sure to count in those football overruns on CBS.
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Those chimps LUCKED into a sweeps win.
Not even considering the CMA's instead of their Wednesday night crapfest or 5,000 hours of DWTS, take out the ratings for election night and those two college football games, and then let's talk about ABC's great sweeps performance.
Since CBS doesn't feel the need to put Christine up on its website, I didn't see the past two eps of that but Gary was very very enjoyable. ABC should go after these types of comedies to pair with Dancing with the Stars next year as they appear to share a good chunk of similar audience.
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Originally posted by vlis: just watched Thanksgiving episodes of NAOOC and GU....very enjoyable episodes
Primetime - 2008 November Sweep (Based on National Live + Same Day Program Ratings)
ABC Ranks No. 1 for the 4th Straight November in Adults 18-49, The Net's Longest Winning Streak for the Month Since the Early '90s
ABC Airs 2 of the Top 3 Series in November in Adults 18-49 And 4 of the Top 8 Most-Watched Television Shows Overall
Net Claims 7 of the Top 10 Entertainment Telecasts in November '08 in Adults 18-49, And Between "Grey's" and "Housewives" Delivers the Top 7 Telecasts in Key Women
November 2008 (26 of 28 Nights): For the 4th consecutive November Sweep, ABC ranks as the No. 1 network in the key Adult 18-49 sales demo (3.2/8). By ranking No. 1 for the 4th year in a row, the Network is delivering its longest November winning streak since the early 1990s - since a streak going back to the start of the Nielsen electronic database from 1991-1994. ABC also is the No. 1 Net during the month across the key Women demographics: Women 18-34 (3.2/9) Women 18-49 (3.9/10) and Women 25-54 (4.6/11-tie).
2008 November Sweep Program Rankings:
* Series Rankings: In Adults 18-49, ABC aired 2 the Top 3 series during the 2008 November Sweep, with "Grey's Anatomy" - No. 1 and "Desperate Housewives" - No. 3. ABC placed 4 of the Top 8 most-watched TV series overall in November: "Dancing with the Stars" - No. 2, "Desperate Housewives" - No. 5, "DWTS Results" - No. 7, "Grey's Anatomy" - No. 8. Between "Grey's Anatomy" and "Desperate Housewives," ABC placed the Top 2 TV series of the sweep across all key women demographics (W18-34/W18-49/W25-54).
* Individual Telecast Rankings: ABC delivered 7 of the Top 10 individual entertainment telecasts during November 2008 among Adults 18-49: "Grey's Anatomy - 11/20" - No. 1 (tie), "Desperate Housewives - 11/16" - No. 1 (tie), "Grey's Anatomy - 11/6" - No. 4, "Desperate Housewives - 11/9" - No. 5, "Desperate Housewives - 11/2" - No. 6, "Grey's Anatomy - 10/30" - No. 7 (tie) and Grey's Anatomy - 11/13" No. 7 (tie). Additionally, the Network claimed each of the Top 7 telecasts during November across the key Women demographics (W18-34/W218-49/W25-54).
Originally posted by vlis: oh ok...but we'll be sure to count in those football overruns on CBS.
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Those chimps LUCKED into a sweeps win.
Not even considering the CMA's instead of their Wednesday night crapfest or 5,000 hours of DWTS, take out the ratings for election night and those two college football games, and then let's talk about ABC's great sweeps performance.
Ok, here's the thing that gets me about ABC's college football games. Yes, CBS and FOX benefit from NFL overruns, NBC benefits from SNF and the wildcard playoff games, and CBS and NBC benefit when they have SEC and Notre Dame games run into primetime. However, the difference is that each of them paid for the rights to these games, ABC didn't. Disney simply had their legal department work their ESPN contract to allow ABC to air these games.
Oh, and Mushu is right about DWTS. ABC is jeopardizing the chance of the show having a longer shelf-life with all of these expanded editions and recrap shows.
I'm just so curious to see how long ABC goes in January and February without Football and DWTS.
Not even considering the CMA's instead of their Wednesday night crapfest or 5,000 hours of DWTS, take out the ratings for election night and those two college football games, and then let's talk about ABC's great sweeps performance.
It's not ABC's fault that CBS has such a bad news division and 60 minutes with Obama wasnt a sweep stunt?
