Originally posted by xwiseguyx: It's pretty evident that a lot of folks are tuning from Dancing With the Star to King Of Queens (based on it's improved numbers from 2 1/2 Men). While I love the show and am glad to see it do well and get the ratings it deserves, it's kind of a shame they didn't have something else in the slot that was more thought of as a future ratings investment.
Which is why I recommended that ABC have either Traveler or Notes from the Underbelly as the lead-out from DWTS... Both new shows have fit the mold of "future ratings investment."
Originally posted by Remus Lupin: All right, I'm laughing really hard here. There are three shows on Mondays which's ratings I'm looking out for: the appalling Drive (poor Nathan Fillion; I like him), the overrated Heroes and the quite underrater 24. ALL DOWN!! Unbelievable!
First of all, Drive. PATHETIC. From 6.2 million to 5.6 million to 4.6 million? Does it suck that bad? Will it be 3.6 million next week? Then 2.6? 1.6? 0.6? And finally, 0? Because that would be awesome. Poor show, I was kind of hoping that Fillion would get a success from here, but there you go. Goodbye, Drive!
And what exactly has happened to Heroes? It's last episode aired (March 5th) had these ratings:
So, let's see. Viewers: 14.90 -> 11.98 = -2.92 million viewers. Households: 8.5 -> 7.2 = -1.3 HH. A18-49: 6.6 -> 5.3 = -1.3 A18-49. Unbelievable. It's lost HUGE numbers. Is this going to keep up? At least Lost had the excuse of the timeslot change and DVRing and a 13-month-long break with a craptfest like "Day Break" as fill-in. Heroes simply took a break and now this massive fall of ratings? I knew that Heroes' prime wouldn't last long (not that 14 million is a huge "prime"), but already? I was thinking more like Season Two.
Not that it matters though. NBC sucks and Heroes is pretty much their best, so it's standing on extremely firm ground.
Oh, and 24. I know that Season Six hasn't been too high in the quality section and not very eventful, but come on! It almost dropped a million in ONE WEEK. It had 11.15 million last week and now this. Not to mention, that this is a new low; the ratings haven't been this down in a long time. I guess people just gave up on this less-than-good season. They'll probably tune in for next season; new stories, new plots, new characters. That's the joy of 24. It's a new show every year.
Just a bit of advice for the makers of 24: pull a Season Five and KILL OFF HALF OF THE CAST. The show desperately needs new characters. Leave Jack, Chloe and Bill alive and a few others, preferably Karen, Tom and Logan. Maybe Morris. But kill off at least 50%. That'll take the intrigue back.
Hehe, I kind of know how you feel. The only show I was interested in 9drive) did poorly in the ratings. It probably won't last but oh well, i still like it and will enjoy it while it is still on TV.
About serialized vs. episodic--used to be that shows could be both. The X-Files ran nine seasons (four of them watchable)because Chris Carter's original idea of doing all-mythology was vetoed. The standalones kept the show alive long after the 'mytharc' had become a confusing jumble of half-digested ideas, and poorly plotted dead ends. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was certainly serialized, and beautifully so for the first three seasonsa--but it had at least as many standalones as 'mytharcs', I believe.
Right now, we seem to either have 100% serialized, or 100% episodic. Episodic has its virtues, but I'm just not feeling it these days. Serialized is what I love, but when the show is 100% serialized, the writers run out of ideas, and the show rarely stays in top form for more than two seasons, if that.
Either go back to the hybrids, or give the serialized shows a well-defined time limit.
I do hope the HIMYM finds a way to get some more mileage out of the mall music. I also expect that the series finale should rightfully contain the last slap. Therefore, I hope the show gets to know when it will end so that a proper finale can be done.
Right now, we seem to either have 100% serialized, or 100% episodic.
On the major nets? Yep. Though I think that Smallville, Supernatural, and (dare I bring it up ) perhaps even Veronica Mars would qualify as hybrid. Certainly the two CW Thursday shows do.
I miss Buffy S3. I think I'll watch it this weekend.
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On the major nets? Yep. Though I think that Smallville, Supernatural, and (dare I bring it up ) perhaps even Veronica Mars would qualify as hybrid. Certainly the two CW Thursday shows do.
VM started out as a hybrid, then became almost totally serialized, and how it's going to be completely episodic. And it's a flop in all three formats. Some shows just can't be helped.
Gilmore Girls is a decent hybrid as well--pretty much all the successful netlet dramas have been. But nobody's looking to CW as a model these days. Well, except for Dumont Demo, of course.
Btw, Travis. It is a long-standing rule that slap-bet commissioners can neither slap people nor threaten to do so. You are therefore permanently disqualified from that post. Attach the Stone of Shame. Oh wait, that's a Simpsons ref.
Don't forget tbhat Heroes is now facing the last half-hour of DWTS.
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Originally posted by Remus Lupin: All right, I'm laughing really hard here. There are three shows on Mondays which's ratings I'm looking out for: the appalling Drive (poor Nathan Fillion; I like him), the overrated Heroes and the quite underrater 24. ALL DOWN!! Unbelievable!
First of all, Drive. PATHETIC. From 6.2 million to 5.6 million to 4.6 million? Does it suck that bad? Will it be 3.6 million next week? Then 2.6? 1.6? 0.6? And finally, 0? Because that would be awesome. Poor show, I was kind of hoping that Fillion would get a success from here, but there you go. Goodbye, Drive!
And what exactly has happened to Heroes? It's last episode aired (March 5th) had these ratings:
So, let's see. Viewers: 14.90 -> 11.98 = -2.92 million viewers. Households: 8.5 -> 7.2 = -1.3 HH. A18-49: 6.6 -> 5.3 = -1.3 A18-49. Unbelievable. It's lost HUGE numbers. Is this going to keep up? At least Lost had the excuse of the timeslot change and DVRing and a 13-month-long break with a craptfest like "Day Break" as fill-in. Heroes simply took a break and now this massive fall of ratings? I knew that Heroes' prime wouldn't last long (not that 14 million is a huge "prime"), but already? I was thinking more like Season Two.
Not that it matters though. NBC sucks and Heroes is pretty much their best, so it's standing on extremely firm ground.
Oh, and 24. I know that Season Six hasn't been too high in the quality section and not very eventful, but come on! It almost dropped a million in ONE WEEK. It had 11.15 million last week and now this. Not to mention, that this is a new low; the ratings haven't been this down in a long time. I guess people just gave up on this less-than-good season. They'll probably tune in for next season; new stories, new plots, new characters. That's the joy of 24. It's a new show every year.
Just a bit of advice for the makers of 24: pull a Season Five and KILL OFF HALF OF THE CAST. The show desperately needs new characters. Leave Jack, Chloe and Bill alive and a few others, preferably Karen, Tom and Logan. Maybe Morris. But kill off at least 50%. That'll take the intrigue back.
Hehe, I kind of know how you feel. The only show I was interested in 9drive) did poorly in the ratings. It probably won't last but oh well, i still like it and will enjoy it while it is still on TV.
And let's be honest... "these days"? When are they EVER going to be looking to CW as a model? Has an airing of any show on it ever even topped 6 million viewers? In any half-hour, even?
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The Real Wedding Crashers' numbers are pathetic as is the show.
I don't get the huge deal about Heroes being down. It was gone for a month and a half. It wasn't even repeated until Saturday night. It'll go back up, maybe not into the 6's it was in, but it'll surely go up. What show, that's been on hiatus, hasn't come back with numbers that were down. It's happened to Heroes, Jericho, Lost, and Prison Break (I think).
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