I wish it wasn't, but I am almost positive that is wrong. I checked the AOL TV listings and the game was on the CBS affiliate, and I heard from someone with DirecTV in San Fransico, and they had the football game on CBS.
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
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Originally posted by Twins12: Yes, but I don't think BBT holds it, because it was preempted for Football in San Fransisco.
Heroes season 3 is starting to suck some serious eggs. That being said, Supernatural gets first dibs on the divine Adrian Pasdar once Heroes tanks. What a perfect fit he'd be for the SPN universe.
Unfortunately, HIMYM just can't do it on its own. This time last year it had 8.6 million, and 3.3 in 18-49. BBT had 9.4 million and 3.8 in 18-49.
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Originally posted by pisher: I'm actually more surprised by HIMYM's ratings, as opposed to BBT's.
It's become a legitimate hit in its FOURTH season? It was a modest success before, not a flop--but even so. Nice legs. Thanks for showing them off last night, Ms. Hannigan.
Originally posted by ChrTh: First, let me start off by apologizing for having the nerve to question your role of speaking for all fans of a tv show.
Second, contradiction time:
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: The (lack of) quality has everything to do with its sad ratings.
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No, Heroes is bad. Season 3 may be better than season 2, but its no where near its season 1 quality.
If Season 3 is better than Season 2, but the ratings are worse, than obviously it is NOT quality (or lack thereof) that is driving the ratings.
So your point again was ... ?
I believe he means the lack of quality over the past two seasons have everything to do with the poor ratings now. Sure season 3 may be better than the very bad season 2. But the quality of season 3 still isn't that good and definitely not good enough to get people interested in the show again. (At least that's the clear impression I got; I don't know the quality of the show because I don't watch it. However I know it's been getting terrible reviews and NBC just fired some writers on the show because they feel the show wasn't very good now).
Looks like Chuck is stuck in the 6 millions. But if it stays there it should complete its full season order at least.
Also, Smallville and Supenatural are going to get a hit by losing the New York audience with football on the CW in New York.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Grey's Anatomy Fans better be ready for a low Finals for This Thursday. The Boston ABC Affiliate is airing the Pats v Jets game.
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
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Originally posted by Twins12: Yes, but I don't think BBT holds it, because it was preempted for Football in San Fransisco.
It looks like the game may have been on both the CBS and CW affiliates in San Fransisco. Just found this comment from someone in SF in a TV forum :
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For some stupid reason, two local stations (one being our CBS affiliate) broadcast ESPN Monday Night Football even if as it was playing on ESPN already. I realize some people STILL don't have cable, but no contingencies were even made for an alternate broadcast of the show. It blows cuz this is one of the few network shows I try to never miss. And with no way to watch the episode posted like other networks do, they've forced my hand to hit a torrent site.
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
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Originally posted by Twins12: Yes, but I don't think BBT holds it, because it was preempted for Football in San Fransisco.
And without HIMYM as a lead-in, BBT would have been lucky to last a full season.
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Unfortunately, HIMYM just can't do it on its own.
It can, however, beat its lead-in in the demo. Week after week.
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This time last year it had 8.6 million, and 3.3 in 18-49. BBT had 9.4 million and 3.8 in 18-49.
But most weeks, HIMYM did better than BBT, as you conveniently forget.
Again, the two shows are allies, not competitors. But let's see how BBT is doing by its fourth season--if it makes it that far. Personally, I think it's benefiting from its lead-out at least as much as its lead-out is benefiting from it.
And without HIMYM as a lead-in, BBT would have been lucky to last a full season.
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Unfortunately, HIMYM just can't do it on its own.
It can, however, beat its lead-in in the demo. Week after week.
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This time last year it had 8.6 million, and 3.3 in 18-49. BBT had 9.4 million and 3.8 in 18-49.
But most weeks, HIMYM did better than BBT, as you conveniently forget.
Again, the two shows are allies, not competitors. But let's see how BBT is doing by its fourth season--if it makes it that far. Personally, I think it's benefiting from its lead-out at least as much as its lead-out is benefiting from it.
I think they're a great pair. But it's amazing how they've taken off this year compared to last. I hope the figures continue to improve.
The problem with Heroes is almost strictly NBC. Yes, quality is down from first season. But quality isn't why the show lost 6 million viewers between seasons 1 and 2: NBC moved DOND. The hit in viewers was instanteous*. Why are numbers down between seasons 2 and 3? Show didn't come back after the strike. You can argue quality, but at the same time, we've seen this result (lost viewers) with a lot of shows that didn't come back after the strike. Why are numbers down in seasons 2 and 3? Because Heroes outperforms both its lead-out and its lead-in consistently (always?). It's being forced to win the entire night for NBC.
Yes, there have been a lot of creative missteps, both last season and this season. And frankly, the solutions are ones that TPTB may be loathe to implement (for example: get rid of everyone with a last name of Petrelli; either mature Hiro or kill him). But the show still has a lot of potential and can regrow its audience after turning around creatively.
But first NBC has to come up with a better plan because what they're doing now just isn't working.
*If I'm remembering correctly; I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong
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Well, it's doubtful that they can find new ways of Penny interacting with and being shocked by Sheldon 40 episodes from now, they'll slowly start hemmorhaging viewers. These two make the show, as it was so incredibly clear last night.
Seriously, does anybody like that little annoying wannabe womanizer dude? And how old is the constant gag with the Indian guy's woman shyness getting at this point already?
No reason to appolgize. Debate is good, when done right.
Never said I spoke for ALL fans. My Opinion is my own, but I think (based on comments from others) a lot of the problems with Heroes is it is not prodcing the quaily that the first season had. Just because This season is better than last season, doesn't mean it is good. Its just not as crappy as the previous season.
A lot of viewers have bailed because (IMO) the series is not what it was in season 1. Some, like me, have stuck it out for these 15, or so, sub-par episodes since the end of season 1. Some gave up early some later. It would take a lot from the show to start winning back Viewers, but right now, it is still driving them away.
Heors will continue to lose viewers until it becomes as good, if not better, than season 1.
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Originally posted by ChrTh: First, let me start off by apologizing for having the nerve to question your role of speaking for all fans of a tv show.
Second, contradiction time:
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: The (lack of) quality has everything to do with its sad ratings.
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No, Heroes is bad. Season 3 may be better than season 2, but its no where near its season 1 quality.
If Season 3 is better than Season 2, but the ratings are worse, than obviously it is NOT quality (or lack thereof) that is driving the ratings.
Yes, but remember HIMYM is in the higher rated 8:30 time slot. BBT is the one that moved to the lower rated time slot, and is getting these great ratings. If they switched time slots and BBT was back at 8:30 it would absolutely be killing HIMYM in the ratings. It would be over a million viewers higher. The demos would still be close, with BBT having a slight lead like it was last year when BBT was at 8:30, because HIMYM skews a little younger.
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Originally posted by Tamaleobas: [QUOTE]Originally posted by tvismyjob: Thanks to having a suitable lead-in.
Unfortunately, HIMYM just can't do it on its own. This time last year it had 8.6 million, and 3.3 in 18-49. BBT had 9.4 million and 3.8 in 18-49. [QUOTE]
But, with a suitable lead-in, HIMYM does better than BBT, since it gets a 4.1 in the demo.
What a perfect fit he'd be for the SPN universe.
