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Idol is nowhere near being canceled, but it does seem to have peaked, and started its long inevitable decline.

All shows reach this point--why would Idol be any different?

The Ed Sullivan show was vastly more popular and longlived than Idol could ever dream of being--it still reached the point where its ratings began to decline. If it happened for Ed Sullivan, it'll happen for Simon Cowell. All the sooner because Sullivan featured the greatest singers of that era, and Cowell--doesn't.

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Sorry but I have to disagree. Idol is doing just fine. Any FOX show would kill to have those numbers. It was a special charity show that was boring. Numbers will pick up today and all will be normal again.

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Despite lower than desired demos, ABC can't afford the gamble it would be taking by canceling Boston Legal. ABC's continued weak performance in the 10pm hour (Bachelor, DSM, Eli Stone, MiT, OR, Cashmere Mafia, Primetime, etc.) only solidify the need to keep Boston Legal's 10 million viewers around. Even B&S performed below 10 million without DH. I'll concede demo weakness, but why cancel a show that has a consistent viewership (and apparently high DVR numbers and high income viewers). All things considered, I find it difficult to believe it's even on the bubble.

Idol's numbers down last night, but understandable. I never miss, but last night really saw no need to watch. Its 24 million on Tuesday are much more concerning. I don't think any performance shows dipped that low last season. Seems week to week it's declining some.
This year's talent, while heavily hyped, doesn't measure up to last year for me. Maybe that's starting to become a problem with other viewers as well.

Looking forward to Survivor tonight. One of the best seasons in a long time. Tough competition in the 8:00 hour tonight!


The power house Idol is finally losing steam.


They'll pick up, but i think they'll be down. The thursday eps are always lower than the wednesday ones. (Besides 30 rock is back. Duh.)
 
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Sorry, but it's already gone.

http://thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7605
Based on that new scheduling, it may have dragged Shark out the door with it.


I'm sure this was brought up many times on this forum after the strike, but...

how idiotic was it of CBS to NOT bring the unit back for a few more episodes??
 
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I'll definately be watching that and 30 Rock tonight... and DEFINATELY contributing to a pointless argument over both their ratings tomorrow. :-)


Though perhaps not quite as pointless as 30 Rock itself. Cool


Well played. :-)
 
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Originally posted by Walter:
Now if any one remember on Monday when i said that secret talents of the stars would not last 2 episodes.

Well i was right.

You are a prophet of the one and done, Walter. Please, do tell me what your crystal ball foretells for the new sitcom starring Mr. Flavor Flav, "Under One Roof", that debuts next Wednesday at 8 pm EST / 7 pm Central on MyNetworkTV?
 
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Originally posted by pisher:
Idol is nowhere near being canceled, but it does seem to have peaked, and started its long inevitable decline.

All shows reach this point--why would Idol be any different?

The Ed Sullivan show was vastly more popular and longlived than Idol could ever dream of being--it still reached the point where its ratings began to decline. If it happened for Ed Sullivan, it'll happen for Simon Cowell. All the sooner because Sullivan featured the greatest singers of that era, and Cowell--doesn't.

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Cowell is not AI, and that is one of the reasons this show has an expiration date. He actually wants to start his own show (X-Factor from UK) in the US at one point, and he can't do that while he is under contract with AI producers.


 
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Please, do tell me what your crystal ball foretells for the new sitcom starring Mr. Flavor Flav, "Under One Roof", that debuts next Wednesday at 8 pm EST / 7 pm Central on MyNetworkTV?
dumont, every post of yours regarding the show has been identical to every post you made about Hotel Paradise before it aired. I predict a similar outcome once UOR airs.
 
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Cowell is not AI, and that is one of the reasons this show has an expiration date. He actually wants to start his own show (X-Factor from UK) in the US at one point, and he can't do that while he is under contract with AI producers.


It'd expire whether he left or not, but that will probably hurry things up. Still, the damage has been done.

The hell of it is, a genuine revival of the variety show would have been a great thing for television. Instead we got a celebration of mediocrity--people aspiring, in the most fatuous way imaginable, to be celebrities--instead of artists.

And I hope you're okay with my thinking that, even though I've watched about three minutes of AI in my life.

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Well played. :-)


It was an easy pick-up. Wink
 
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Originally posted by dumont:
Please, do tell me what your crystal ball foretells for the new sitcom starring Mr. Flavor Flav, "Under One Roof", that debuts next Wednesday at 8 pm EST / 7 pm Central on MyNetworkTV?
dumont, every post of yours regarding the show has been identical to every post you made about Hotel Paradise before it aired. I predict a similar outcome once UOR airs.

Come next Thursday morning, when the overnights show "Under One Roof" sitting atop "America's Sixth Place Models", I'll be joining Mr. Flavor Flav in a told-ya-so grin.
 
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Is ANTM new? Would that be a record rating for MyTv?


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Originally posted by Obveeus:
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Originally posted by dumont:
Please, do tell me what your crystal ball foretells for the new sitcom starring Mr. Flavor Flav, "Under One Roof", that debuts next Wednesday at 8 pm EST / 7 pm Central on MyNetworkTV?
dumont, every post of yours regarding the show has been identical to every post you made about Hotel Paradise before it aired. I predict a similar outcome once UOR airs.

Come next Thursday morning, when the overnights show "Under One Roof" sitting atop "America's Sixth Place Models", I'll be joining Mr. Flavor Flav in a told-ya-so grin.


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Is ANTM new? Would that be a record rating for MyTv?
It would be about double their record.
 
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Wow. Is FF that popular? Do people know about this show. I saw the first billboard the other day. Those are pretty lofty expectations. I think it will do good for MyTv, not sure it will beat Tyra. We'll see.

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Is ANTM new? Would that be a record rating for MyTv?
It would be about double their record.


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Is ANTM new? Would that be a record rating for MyTv?

Yes whatsonpop, I've updated the Nielsen predictive model in my dumont electronitrendicator, and it does indeed forecast that MNT will set a ratings record high next Wednesday night.

Are you by chance privy to overnight metered market results? If so, could you make a diary notation to please post the overnights for "Under One Roof" vs. "America's Next Top Model" next Thursday morning?
 
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I'm too far down the food chain to get overnights on a regular basis. I will see what i can do though. My only concern is that if you want the show to suceed, perhaps you shouldn't say so because we have all seen your track record! LOL Big Grin

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Originally posted by whatsonpop:
Is ANTM new? Would that be a record rating for MyTv?

Yes whatsonpop, I've updated the Nielsen predictive model in my dumont electronitrendicator, and it does indeed forecast that MNT will set a ratings record high next Wednesday night.

Are you by chance privy to overnight metered market results? If so, could you make a diary notation to please post the overnights for "Under One Roof" vs. "America's Next Top Model" next Thursday morning?


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