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Originally posted by CaseyM:
NBC Roll Eyes Stupid decision after stupid decision.

Btw: which show will take over from Medium at 10pm?

Dateline.


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http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/13/nielsen-weekly-top...house/3756#more-3756

This shows how overrated the demos are. Is really anyone thinking Hell's Kitchen is a more succesfull show than House?

No, but because House will finish above 7.0 in A18-49 average for new episodes on the year. So yes demos matter most.


 
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Originally posted by Hawk-eye:
Given the full pick-up of Christine and their interest in BTY, it would seem CBS must intend that second night of comedy that has been a frequent topic around these parts. So is it wednesday or Sunday? I still prefer Christine and another comedy on Sunday, but the safer choice (which is usualy the path most traveled) is Wednesday.


I'm sure it will be Wednesday. They'll keep TAR on Sunday.


You are probably correct. However, I think they should keep TAR on Sundays and still add the comedies by cutting down to one drama.
 
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To TravisYanan or anyone else seeing this entry, please provide ratings information for the following cable programs, premiering soon, so I can use them on the Daily Game:

NBA Playoffs (ESPN/TNT) (late May-early June)
Andromeda Strain (A&E) (May 26)
In Plain Sight (USA) (June 1)






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Originally posted by CaseyM:
NBC Roll Eyes Stupid decision after stupid decision.

Btw: which show will take over from Medium at 10pm?

Dateline.


For only about 6 weeks- then Nashville Star in Mid-June. I just have a feeling NBC is just waiting for the regular season to end now. (And I'll be the first to say it- I predict AG will be up to 8 million on June 2nd- that's the first Monday after Memorial Day weekend. The poor showing is because DWTS is at the final 4 and House started the season finale, as I've said before. If the Olympics didn't start the first week of August, they probably would have waited until the first week of June to start AG)
 
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Originally posted by weaklink75:
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Originally posted by lopez:
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Originally posted by CaseyM:
NBC Roll Eyes Stupid decision after stupid decision.

Btw: which show will take over from Medium at 10pm?

Dateline.


For only about 6 weeks- then Nashville Star in Mid-June. I just have a feeling NBC is just waiting for the regular season to end now. (And I'll be the first to say it- I predict AG will be up to 8 million on June 2nd- that's the first Monday after Memorial Day weekend. The poor showing is because DWTS is at the final 4 and House started the season finale, as I've said before. If the Olympics didn't start the first week of August, they probably would have waited until the first week of June to start AG)


We have Dateline on Monday. We have Dateline on Friday and we have Dateline on Sunday. Dateline is becoming the new DOND Roll Eyes




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CW gets early start on fall season

Slate to focus on big franchises
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

The CW will get a jump on the competish next season, launching Sept. 1 with a fall sked that the net will promote as its most cohesive ever.
“We want to make some noise before the official season premiere,” said CW entertainment prexy Dawn Ostroff, who is pitching the nets fall sked to advertisers tonight in a tent erected outside Lincoln Center. “Launching three weeks beforehand should give us an advantage.”

Coming off of a difficult year ratings-wise, the CW is hoping to inject some life into the lineup by focusing on big franchises. Inspired by the buzz surrounding frosh success “Gossip Girl,” all three of the weblet’s new fall entries were designed to have built-in aud interest.

“It’s the first show we developed exclusively for the CW,” Ostroff said of “Gossip Girl.” “It’s amazing the kind of press and attention that it’s gotten. We asked, wow, do we take that building block to build other franchises? We’ll be able to create a real brand with pop culture, buzz-worthy shows.”

In the case of new Tuesday dramas, “90210” is an update on the 1990s Fox skein -- and will even include a few familiar faces from the Aaron Spelling sudser. “Surviving the Filthy Rich,” meanwhile, is based on the Alloy Entertainment book series “How to Teach Filthy Rich Girls.”

“‘90210’ is a franchise that’s near and dear to people’s hearts,” Ostroff said. “The goal here is to create a whole new franchise. But the people coming back (from the original) will fit into the new franchise.”

That already includes Jennie Garth, who will reprise her role from the original series. Ostroff said other cast members from the first “90210” will be making appearances as well.

Ostroff admits that bowing two new shows on Tuesday is a risk, but she believes it’s tempered by the fact that “90210” is a known brand.

“I do think it will get a lot of attention,” she said. “Although there’s some concern (about the Tuesday schedule), if ever you would do something like this, this is the way to do it.”

On Wednesday, new 9 p.m. reality entry “Stylista” not only revolves around famed glossy magazine Elle, but it comes from the “America’s Next Top Model” mavens Tyra Banks and Ken Mok.

Beyond that, CW is sticking with stability on Monday (“Gossip Girl,” “One Tree Hill”) and Thursdays (“Smallville,” “Supernatural”). Net will also target a slightly more urban crowd on Friday nights, replacing WWE’s “Friday Night SmackDown” block with comedies “Everybody Hates Chris” and “The Game,” and repeats of “America’s Next Top Model.”

With “SmackDown” departing the network at the end of the summer, Ostroff touted the compatibility of the net’s Monday through Friday sked.

“For the first time ever we will have flow on the schedule, horizontally and vertically” Ostroff said. “We can bring people in on Monday and have them come back Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. It’s always been challenging for us to get that kind of flow.”

Ostroff also plans to hammer the message that, contrary to popular belief, the CW is not a teen-targeted net.

“Women 18-34 are our target demo, we’ve always known that our median age is 34, a full ten years younger than the other networks,” she said. “It’s not as if it’s a bunch of teens watching our network.”

Then there’s Sunday. Not only is the CW outsourcing its primetime to sked to indie production company Media Rights Capital, but it’s also giving up its Sunday afternoon “Easy View” block to the indie shingle.

That means MRC won’t only be programming the 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. block on the night, but it also controls the 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. two-hour lineup of repeats on Sunday, which CW has relied on to help defray the costs of its original series.

MRC is still developing the two comedies and two dramas it has in the works for Sunday primetime, and opted not to announce those projects at CW’s upfront event as originally planned.

Tribune Co., which is working with MRC on the slate, has stressed that the shows will target a broader, adults 18-49 crowd, than the CW’s traditional aud. But Ostroff said she believed the shows would still be female-oriented.

“It may be older, but it will still be female, and the quality of the programming will be good,” she said. “They’re working with showrunners and writers that we would work with.”

Ostroff said she’s been consulting with MRC on their slate, and said the deal to farm out the night will allow the network to air more scripted programming throughout the week.

“It’s still going to be a much better situation than where we were with the WWE,” she said. “Wrestling is such its own brand, we couldn’t promote into or out of it.”

As for midseason, the CW picked up 13 more episodes of “Reaper,” which Ostroff said came after execs were encouraged by some of the show’s post-strike tweaks. Show will evolve next year to be more relationship-oriented, and will also develop more of a mythology as opposed to the villain-of-the-week conceit.

“People are responding to the changes,” she said. “We have some new character ideas, and are making the show sexier and more relationship driven. It’s a natural progression of the show.”



CW primetime schedule for 2008-2009

Mon. Gossip Girl One Tree Hill

Tue. 90210 Surviving the Filthy Rich
Wed. America's Next Top Model Stylista
Thur. Smallville Supernatural

Fri. Everybody Hates Chris The Game America's Next Top Model

Sun. TBA

Bold denotes new show
"Reaper" will return as a midseason replacement

Read the full article at:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985565.html


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Well at least they're getting everything off to an early start. That's good...right? Confused




 
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Ostroff admits that bowing two new shows on Tuesday is a risk, but she believes it’s tempered by the fact that “90210” is a known brand.

“I do think it will get a lot of attention,” she said. “Although there’s some concern (about the Tuesday schedule), if ever you would do something like this, this is the way to do it.”


Heh. I said the exact same thing yesterday. Stop reading my posts, Dawn!


 
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Well at least they're getting everything off to an early start. That's good...right? Confused


It's very good, as that means shows will flop sooner. That means Reaper will be back on the air by November.


 
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Has this happened before? NBC without a single show in the weekly Top 20

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/13/nielsen-weekly-top...ere-to-be-found/3754


How sad for a network that used to have three shows in the top five just on Thursdays. So who is buying NBCU when GE stockholders force a sale?


Sadly (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) for NBC, the only part of NBC that's doing poorly is NBC Entertainment. The rest of NBCU is doing gangbusters--the cable properties, NBC News, the movie studios, etc. The GE stockholders won't be forcing a sale anytime soon. I happen to be one and while I would like to see the stock price go up the way it used to do, NBC Entertainment, while a cash cow, is the teeniest, tiniest contributor to GE's bottom line. I'm much more worried about GE Finance than I am NBCU at this point.
 
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Why hasn't NBC made a play for Back to You? They need a Cosby type show to jumpstart their thursday nights.
 
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wow good god, reaper is the cw only backup plan? should they wave the white flag now? the actors strike will kill them

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Originally posted by Zedman2:
CW gets early start on fall season

Slate to focus on big franchises
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

The CW will get a jump on the competish next season, launching Sept. 1 with a fall sked that the net will promote as its most cohesive ever.
“We want to make some noise before the official season premiere,” said CW entertainment prexy Dawn Ostroff, who is pitching the nets fall sked to advertisers tonight in a tent erected outside Lincoln Center. “Launching three weeks beforehand should give us an advantage.”

Coming off of a difficult year ratings-wise, the CW is hoping to inject some life into the lineup by focusing on big franchises. Inspired by the buzz surrounding frosh success “Gossip Girl,” all three of the weblet’s new fall entries were designed to have built-in aud interest.

“It’s the first show we developed exclusively for the CW,” Ostroff said of “Gossip Girl.” “It’s amazing the kind of press and attention that it’s gotten. We asked, wow, do we take that building block to build other franchises? We’ll be able to create a real brand with pop culture, buzz-worthy shows.”

In the case of new Tuesday dramas, “90210” is an update on the 1990s Fox skein -- and will even include a few familiar faces from the Aaron Spelling sudser. “Surviving the Filthy Rich,” meanwhile, is based on the Alloy Entertainment book series “How to Teach Filthy Rich Girls.”

“‘90210’ is a franchise that’s near and dear to people’s hearts,” Ostroff said. “The goal here is to create a whole new franchise. But the people coming back (from the original) will fit into the new franchise.”

That already includes Jennie Garth, who will reprise her role from the original series. Ostroff said other cast members from the first “90210” will be making appearances as well.

Ostroff admits that bowing two new shows on Tuesday is a risk, but she believes it’s tempered by the fact that “90210” is a known brand.

“I do think it will get a lot of attention,” she said. “Although there’s some concern (about the Tuesday schedule), if ever you would do something like this, this is the way to do it.”

On Wednesday, new 9 p.m. reality entry “Stylista” not only revolves around famed glossy magazine Elle, but it comes from the “America’s Next Top Model” mavens Tyra Banks and Ken Mok.

Beyond that, CW is sticking with stability on Monday (“Gossip Girl,” “One Tree Hill”) and Thursdays (“Smallville,” “Supernatural”). Net will also target a slightly more urban crowd on Friday nights, replacing WWE’s “Friday Night SmackDown” block with comedies “Everybody Hates Chris” and “The Game,” and repeats of “America’s Next Top Model.”

With “SmackDown” departing the network at the end of the summer, Ostroff touted the compatibility of the net’s Monday through Friday sked.

“For the first time ever we will have flow on the schedule, horizontally and vertically” Ostroff said. “We can bring people in on Monday and have them come back Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. It’s always been challenging for us to get that kind of flow.”

Ostroff also plans to hammer the message that, contrary to popular belief, the CW is not a teen-targeted net.

“Women 18-34 are our target demo, we’ve always known that our median age is 34, a full ten years younger than the other networks,” she said. “It’s not as if it’s a bunch of teens watching our network.”

Then there’s Sunday. Not only is the CW outsourcing its primetime to sked to indie production company Media Rights Capital, but it’s also giving up its Sunday afternoon “Easy View” block to the indie shingle.

That means MRC won’t only be programming the 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. block on the night, but it also controls the 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. two-hour lineup of repeats on Sunday, which CW has relied on to help defray the costs of its original series.

MRC is still developing the two comedies and two dramas it has in the works for Sunday primetime, and opted not to announce those projects at CW’s upfront event as originally planned.

Tribune Co., which is working with MRC on the slate, has stressed that the shows will target a broader, adults 18-49 crowd, than the CW’s traditional aud. But Ostroff said she believed the shows would still be female-oriented.

“It may be older, but it will still be female, and the quality of the programming will be good,” she said. “They’re working with showrunners and writers that we would work with.”

Ostroff said she’s been consulting with MRC on their slate, and said the deal to farm out the night will allow the network to air more scripted programming throughout the week.

“It’s still going to be a much better situation than where we were with the WWE,” she said. “Wrestling is such its own brand, we couldn’t promote into or out of it.”

As for midseason, the CW picked up 13 more episodes of “Reaper,” which Ostroff said came after execs were encouraged by some of the show’s post-strike tweaks. Show will evolve next year to be more relationship-oriented, and will also develop more of a mythology as opposed to the villain-of-the-week conceit.

“People are responding to the changes,” she said. “We have some new character ideas, and are making the show sexier and more relationship driven. It’s a natural progression of the show.”



CW primetime schedule for 2008-2009

Mon. Gossip Girl One Tree Hill

Tue. 90210 Surviving the Filthy Rich
Wed. America's Next Top Model Stylista
Thur. Smallville Supernatural

Fri. Everybody Hates Chris The Game America's Next Top Model

Sun. TBA

Bold denotes new show
"Reaper" will return as a midseason replacement

Read the full article at:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985565.html
 
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it also puzzles me why the CW didn't pick up sister channel CBS's moonlight -- even if it got half its ratings, it would be a hit on the CW. Not like UPN didn't get its start by taking buffy from the WB
 
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Monday original finals and network averages

SHOW/NET                     HH  A18-49     Viewers  A18-34

ABC                      9.3/15  3.7/10  14,000,000
CBS                      7.3/11  4.0/10  11,503,000
NBC                       3.7/6   2.3/6   6,235,000
FOX                      7.5/12  4.6/12  12,349,000
CW                        1.8/3   1.2/3   2,715,000   1.6/5

DANCING WITH THE STARS  11.9/18  4.2/11  18,469,000
SAMANTHA WHO? (9:32pm)   7.1/11   3.2/7  10,241,000
THE BACHELOR (10:02pm)   6.2/10   3.2/8   8,855,000

BIG BANG THEORY           5.0/8   2.9/9   7,792,000
HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER     5.4/8  3.8/10   8,934,000
TWO AND A HALF MEN       8.5/13  5.1/12  13,824,000
RULES OF ENGAGEMENT      6.6/10  4.1/10  10,618,000
CSI: MIAMI               9.1/15  4.1/11  13,923,000

AMERICAN GLADIATORS       2.9/4   1.9/5   4,988,000
MEDIUM                    5.5/9   3.0/8   8,729,000

BONES                    6.0/10   3.3/9   9,677,000
HOUSE                    9.1/13  5.9/14  15,022,000

GOSSIP GIRL               1.8/3   1.2/3   2,709,000   1.6/5
ONE TREE HILL             1.8/3   1.2/3   2,720,000   1.7/4

THE HILLS (32 minutes)    2.5/4   2.3/6   3,777,000  3.6/10


On 90210... I'm sitting on some inside information (and will remain so) and I just have to say that I had my doubts a couple weeks ago... but if these things happen, fans of the old series are going to EAT IT UP. I'm hearing the script is inching closer to being worthy of the buzz the show has received, too.
 
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