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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

But when nothing else is being programmed, it should have much higher ratings. Numb3rs could of done better if not for Moonlight.

Moonlight is not hurting Numb3rs LOL !!I do not watch Numb3ers but this logic had me laughing since now Monnlight is responsible for Numb3rs ratings ? Seems to me if you enjoy a show you watch no metter what comes on before or after or am I crazy ?

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
You are completely missing the point. No one cares how many Moonlight trinkets someone is peddling on online auctions.

Are you suggesting that the illegal trinket salesmen don't dutifully send in a percentage of their profits to CBS?

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

<yawn>
We've already see it. Moonlight held its own.

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Originally posted by Pam:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

But when nothing else is being programmed, it should have much higher ratings. Numb3rs could of done better if not for Moonlight.

Moonlight is not hurting Numb3rs LOL !!I do not watch Numb3ers but this logic had me laughing since now Monnlight is responsible for Numb3rs ratings ? Seems to me if you enjoy a show you watch no metter what comes on before or after or am I crazy ?

If Numb3rs followed GW, it could of had 10 million viewers easily. Moonlight, didnt. Moonlight IMO is a COMPLETE FAILURE.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

<yawn>
We've already see it. Moonlight held its own.

Yes it did and often did much better in demos too so LOL

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Originally posted by Pam:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

<yawn>
We've already see it. Moonlight held its own.

Yes it did and often did much better in demos too so LOL

Well that was three months ago, put them agaisnt each other today.

Total Eclipse, it is not worth wasting your time arguing with these people. They hate Moonlight and have from the beginning. No matter what you or I say they will still hate the show. Leave them to their little dark negative corner where they belong.

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Originally posted by Pam:
Moonlight is not hurting Numb3rs LOL !!I do not watch Numb3ers but this logic had me laughing since now Monnlight is responsible for Numb3rs ratings ? Seems to me if you enjoy a show you watch no metter what comes on before or after or am I crazy ?

Sorry, but you must be crazy if those are the only choices and you still insist that lead-in doesn't matter. People can claim Friday is a time when few people watch netowrk TV and they will be right, but the ratings pattern on CBS is very clear: more viewers both before and after Moonlighting is on. So, viewers are actively tuning away from Moonlighting.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

Womens Murder club should be picked up and put back in the place that it was doin good and thats at friday at 9pm.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

You keep missing the point. It faces zero competition, let another network or two put anything on opposite ML, and let's see what it gets.

I'd like WMC to go back to 9pm, then let's see what happens to Moonlight.

<yawn>
We've already see it. Moonlight held its own.

Look, I think these numbers are bad, but not terrible. If a network puts anything on opposite the numbers go from bad to terrible.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by Pam:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
How is Moonlight's Friday at 9 slot the hardest timeslot of the week? Let's look at its competition this week, a movie repeat on FOX, Dateline NBC, Duel on ABC which is heading towards cancellation and Wrestling on CW. Due to this weak competition, it makes Moonlight's drop even more alarming. It faces virtually no competition and it still can't keep the audience. Next season, it won't even be tops in its timeslot as NBC is programming Deal or No Deal Fridays at 9.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:

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Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Next season, CBS has to try a new show Friday at 9. They are just wasting the advantage they have with Moonlight. It is continually pulling down the schedule and forcing Numbers to pick it up again.

Friday at 9 is probably the toughest time slot of the week. It has been proven that even GW's repeat at 9 got a much smaller number than when it is repeated at 8.
Moonlight is a great show, and it's refreshing to see CBS take a chance, for one, with a genre show. I'm pretty sure CBS will pick it up for another season at the same time. It is a huge success story.

1. What drop? The last new ep scored a little over 8 mil. Considering how much other shows (DH, GA) have dropped lately, this is nothing. Excellent retention.
2. Friday nights are the toughest because less people tend to watch TV on Fridays, hence the low numbers across the board. And I mentioned the specific drop at 9 vs 8 earlier in this thread.

But when nothing else is being programmed, it should have much higher ratings. Numb3rs could of done better if not for Moonlight.

Moonlight is not hurting Numb3rs LOL !!I do not watch Numb3ers but this logic had me laughing since now Monnlight is responsible for Numb3rs ratings ? Seems to me if you enjoy a show you watch no metter what comes on before or after or am I crazy ?

If Numb3rs followed GW, it could of had 10 million viewers easily. Moonlight, didnt. Moonlight IMO is a COMPLETE FAILURE.

No.
If Numb3ers followed GW, numbers would have tanked. I already explained earlier that GW's numbers tanked when it aired at 9.

Clearly total eclipse is one of the few fans of the show so is tottally subjective.
Just want to clarify some points: it's watched by 3 times more people but the buzz around the show is 3 times less than for Veronica Mars, worldwide nobody knows about this show, it loses viewers from its 8pm lead-in although it has no competition, it skews old so that's a proof this "large fanbase" is just a dream of some people, it brings down CBS's line-up, will never be a hit.
So once again it may get renwed only if CBS thinks its fall projects are bad.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by Pam:
Moonlight is not hurting Numb3rs LOL !!I do not watch Numb3ers but this logic had me laughing since now Monnlight is responsible for Numb3rs ratings ? Seems to me if you enjoy a show you watch no metter what comes on before or after or am I crazy ?

Sorry, but you must be crazy if those are the only choices and you still insist that lead-in doesn't matter. People can claim Friday is a time when few people watch netowrk TV and they will be right, but the ratings pattern on CBS is very clear: more viewers both before and after Moonlighting is on. So, viewers are actively tuning away from Moonlighting.

Are you still living in the 80s?
Moonlighting was a wonderful detective dramedy back in the late 80s.
The show I am talking about is Moonlight, which I strongly suggest you try watching.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
If Numb3ers followed GW, numbers would have tanked. I already explained earlier that GW's numbers tanked when it aired at 9.

Your explanation is not valid. You compared GW repeating in its regularly scheduled timeslot with GW repeating in an out of time slot brief appearance.