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I've watched MF and you are right, not that funny tonight. Still need to watch CT.
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Originally posted by lopez:
Cougar Town was hilarious tonight, much better than Modern Family IMO.


Good thing I opted for Glee tonight then, which was meanwhile a great episode. Some great comedic moments mixed in tonight. IMO, one of the best (and funniest) of the series. I also gotta give props to Old Christine tonight - for having a very low key storyline with Christine dating Dave Foley's character, it was a good episode, while adding a big storyline twist at the end (I don't wanna give it away!). Hopefully up against a Modern Family repeat it did okay.


You only watch one or the other? So it ain't so! Red Face


No, usually I opt to watch the ABC comedies, then watch Glee sometime online. But Glee has been excellent lately, and now I'm probably going to watch the ABC comedies online and watch Glee live. Modern Family/Cougar Town have really been losing me lately, though. The Middle, meanwhile, is turning out to be my favorite of the block - what a great little show that has turned out to be.


As long as you aren't missing out on anything!
You're right, Glee pulled out a great episode this week!
 
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This is quite a drop from the Sunday ratings for The Prisoner.

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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Tuesday cable finals

The Prisoner (120 minutes)
- 0.947 million viewers
- 0.6/1 HH
- 0.3/1 A18-49



Same pattern we keep seeing when a famous show of this type is remade--initial curiosity, then growing indifference.
 
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That's true. The difference though is AMC realized that right off the bat and made it into a six hour mini-series.

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Same pattern we keep seeing when a famous show of this type is remade--initial curiosity, then growing indifference.


 
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Amazing but true--when Patrick McGoohan was making The Prisoner, his backers wanted him to make MORE episodes. He didn't want to--he only had so many stories he wanted to tell about this character, and he didn't want to water it down, and get mired in formula & repetition. So he compromised and shot a few extra episodes, but not nearly as many as they wanted.

The Prisoner is what television could have been.

THIS Prisoner is what television has mainly become.

Just a number.
 
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Amazing but true--when Patrick McGoohan was making The Prisoner, his backers wanted him to make MORE episodes. He didn't want to--he only had so many stories he wanted to tell about this character, and he didn't want to water it down, and get mired in formula & repetition. So he compromised and shot a few extra episodes, but not nearly as many as they wanted.

The Prisoner is what television could have been.

THIS Prisoner is what television has mainly become.

Just a number.


I love you pisher. Wink
 
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Aw shucks.

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Invasion launched very well out of Lost and held decent numbers for awhile before too many viewers grew restless with the pace of the story. Since Surface and Threshold premiered in the same year, with Surface muddling along and T-hold bombing, I think some credit has to be given to Lost for helping Invasion.

The 4th season of Alias, which was widely viewed as a mediocre season for the series, got a short term boost from Lost, although eventually the delivered viewers figured out they didn't want to watch Alias.

As time has gone on and the Lost audience has winnowed down, I think it's in less of a position to be a lead in, and not because there are fewer viewers. There is increasingly less general casual audience in the mix and what you've got left are hard cores who probably couldn't care less what comes on after.

They could pair V after Lost, but with V I think the best thing they could do is air it in the highest profile time period they can find and yet avoid major competition.

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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas:
Looking back, I can't think of a single show that benefitted from a pairing with Lost. Lost tends to have an audience that is independent of everything else.

Sorry but I also have to disagree with the pairing of Lost and V. I don't think it's a good idea based on their previous history. ABC tried a sci fi night with Lost and Life On Mars. The idea was that two male skewing sci fi like shows would work well together. Unfortunately, the flow never happened and I don't think ABC would like to try that again. I think that V and Lost need to be on two seperate nights.

The best idea in my opinion is Lost Wednesdays at 10 PM. It fills up a spot that is weak and will be a good end cap to the night. It also could bring some attention back to the comedies before it. With V, I would move it to Tuesdays at 9 PM once Idol cuts down to an hour in March (around top 10 when it goes to one hour). I would have Dancing with the Stars Tuesdays at 8 PM (I don't think there will be much of a cross between the two audiences) and Happy Town would replace The Forgotten at 10 PM. Before The Olympics I'd run Wife Swap or True Beauty or comedy repeats/Better Off Ted/Scrubs and The Forgotten. I think relaunching the night in March makes more sense since there is a break for The Olympics and it ends up being only about four weeks of programming.

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And, they probably need to air it with Lost. If they want the show to last past this season, it'll need some help.

 
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The best thing they could do with V would be to shelve it and write off the loss--but they won't do that. Yet.
 
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I liked Ally McBeal well enough at the beginning, sadly the after a few years I started hating Ally/Calista but still loved all of the supporting characters/actors.

I hope this is just a rumor or The CW is going for the feel of the show, the quirky/outragous dramady without actually being bringing back Ally McBeal.

I think The CW needs to stop poching FOX's old hits and try to find something new and interesting.

TV-Aholic - I like your idea about a werewolf teen drama based on the Twilight series..you never get good stories revolving around werewolves.

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Originally posted by Julie:
Ally McBeal is one of the best shows FOX ever put on the airwaves, and is in my opinion one of the greatest dramas of all time. I can't even tell you enough how much I'm enjoying my Complete Series DVD, and how I remembered just how good, just how true and real and emotionally-connected this show really is.

Please, no. The CW has gone WAYYYYYY too far this time. You cannot just revive a show like Ally McBeal. NO ONE could EVER play the role like Calista Flockheart did. Ever. If The CW were to ever revive a show like Ally, and cast someone like Hilary Duff in the role, that would truly be the nail in the coffin for The CW.
 
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I liked Ally McBeal well enough at the beginning, sadly the after a few years I started hating Ally/Calista but still loved all of the supporting characters/actors.

I hope this is just a rumor or The CW is going for the feel of the show, the quirky/outragous dramady without actually being bringing back Ally McBeal.

I think The CW needs to stop poching FOX's old hits and try to find something new and interesting.

TV-Aholic - I like your idea about a werewolf teen drama based on the Twilight series..you never get good stories revolving around werewolves.

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Originally posted by Julie:
Ally McBeal is one of the best shows FOX ever put on the airwaves, and is in my opinion one of the greatest dramas of all time. I can't even tell you enough how much I'm enjoying my Complete Series DVD, and how I remembered just how good, just how true and real and emotionally-connected this show really is.

Please, no. The CW has gone WAYYYYYY too far this time. You cannot just revive a show like Ally McBeal. NO ONE could EVER play the role like Calista Flockheart did. Ever. If The CW were to ever revive a show like Ally, and cast someone like Hilary Duff in the role, that would truly be the nail in the coffin for The CW.


90210 and Melrose Place are utter failures. Why doesn't Dawn Ostroff realize this? Remaking a show like Ally McBeal would be by far their biggest mistake - you can't just make another Ally McBeal. It isn't that easy.

I agree - season 1 of the show was fantastic, especially the latter half, some of the best television I've ever watched, while seasons 2 and 3 and especially season 4 were also fantastic. Season 5 I didn't care for much, with all the late unnecessary additions to the show, and the fact that Ally almost took a backseat role by then. But, even the worst episodes of Ally McBeal couldn't match up to the best episodes of a remake.
 
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Can CW really thrive by going from the "WB Leftovers" network to the "Remakes of 90's FOX dramas" network?

Vampire Diaries is anything but original (or good), and is in many ways an uncredited TV adaptation of Twilight--but at least it's not based on a previous TV show. And it's the closest thing to a hit they've ever had.

So while I don't believe CW will ever produce a good show, they could avoid a lot of flops by staying the hell away from remakes.
 
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Top 10 Markets (with Detroit, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Minneapolis-St. Paul,
Indianapolis & Ft. Myers-Naples)
Final Household Ratings-Primetime

Tuesday, November 17

NBA Basketball: Chicago Bulls 101, Sacramento Kings 87
[#3] Chicago WGN-9 (CW) 10:00p-12:30am ct: 4.2/8 (149,000 households)

NBA Basketball: Phoenix Suns 111, Houston Rockets 105
[#12] Phoenix KUTP-45 (MNT) 6:30-9:00pm mt: 3.8/6 (71,000 households)

                                                     # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                                   NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
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 8:00  ABC  V                                      5.5/ 9    5.1/ 9    7.5/12    7.1/11    4.6/ 8
 9:00  ABC  Dancing With The Stars results        12.1/19   10.2/17   13.9/22   11.9/17    8.6/14
10:00  ABC  the forgotten                          4.5/ 8    3.5/ 7    6.6/10    6.3/10    4.8/ 8

 8:00  CBS  NCIS                                  10.5/17    6.8/12   10.0/16   14.8/22   10.8/18
 9:00  CBS  NCIS: Los Angeles                      7.0/11    5.5/ 9    8.4/13   12.9/19    8.2/13
10:00  CBS  The Good Wife                          9.4/16    6.5/13   11.3/18   11.0/17    7.7/13

 8:00  NBC  Merry Madagascar                  (S)  3.7/ 6    1.7/ 3    4.3/ 7    3.5/ 5    4.2/ 7
 8:30  NBC  Biggest Loser                          3.6/ 6    2.8/ 5    6.0/10    3.9/ 6    4.6/ 7
10:00  NBC  The Jay Leno Show                      2.0/ 3    3.7/ 7    4.7/ 7    4.1/ 6    4.7/ 8

 8:00  FOX  So You Think You Can Dance             3.3/ 5    3.0/ 5    2.8/ 4    3.1/ 5    3.8/ 6

 8:00   CW  90210                                  1.5/ 2    1.0/ 2    1.6/ 3    1.6/ 2    1.2/ 2
 9:00   CW  Melrose Place (Heather Locklear)       1.8/ 3    1.0/ 2    1.7/ 3    0.8/ 1    1.1/ 2

 8:00  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     1.4/ 2    1.1/ 2    1.2/ 2    2.4/ 4    0.7/ 1
 8:30  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     2.3/ 4    1.2/ 2    0.9/ 1    1.8/ 3    0.9/ 1
 9:00  MNT  Deal or No Deal                        1.3/ 2    0.5/ 1    1.1/ 2    1.2/ 2    0.4/ 1
 9:30  MNT  Deal or No Deal                   (R)  1.2/ 2    0.5/ 1    0.9/ 1    1.1/ 2    0.5/ 1

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  1.0/ 2    0.6/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.3/ 1    0.8/ 1
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.4/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.3/ 0    0.3/ 1    0.2/ 0
 9:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  1.0/ 2    0.2/ 0    0.7/ 1    1.6/ 2    0.7/ 1
10:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  1.3/ 2    0.4/ 1    1.3/ 2    1.3/ 2    1.0/ 2
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  1.0/ 2              0.5/ 1    1.2/ 2    1.1/ 2


                                                     # 6       # 7       # 8       # 9       #10
 Time  Net  Program                              SF/OAK/SJ     BOS       ATL     WSH DC      HOU
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 8:00  ABC  V                                      2.9/ 5    5.1/ 8    8.2/12    6.9/11    5.1/ 9
 9:00  ABC  Dancing With The Stars results         9.1/17    7.6/12   12.5/18    9.0/15   11.1/17
10:00  ABC  the forgotten                          3.3/ 7    4.4/ 9    6.1/10    4.6/ 8    6.2/10

 8:00  CBS  NCIS                                  11.2/21   13.9/23    9.0/13    9.3/15    8.8/15
 9:00  CBS  NCIS: Los Angeles                      6.5/12   11.0/18    7.4/11    8.1/13    6.8/10
10:00  CBS  The Good Wife                          6.8/15    8.4/16    5.7/ 9    7.5/14    6.4/10

 8:00  NBC  Merry Madagascar                  (S)  1.8/ 3    3.4/ 6    4.7/ 7    3.6/ 6    3.8/ 6
 8:30  NBC  Biggest Loser                          3.6/ 7    6.1/10    4.4/ 6    6.1/10    4.3/ 7
10:00  NBC  The Jay Leno Show                      3.1/ 7    4.2/ 8    4.5/ 7    4.7/ 9    3.3/ 5

 8:00  FOX  So You Think You Can Dance             4.8/ 9    3.3/ 5    5.2/ 8    4.6/ 8    1.8/ 3

 8:00   CW  90210                                  0.5/ 1    1.8/ 3    1.9/ 3    1.1/ 2    1.4/ 2
 9:00   CW  Melrose Place (Heather Locklear)       0.6/ 1    0.9/ 2    1.2/ 2    0.8/ 1    1.3/ 2

 8:00  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     1.7/ 3              2.9/ 4    0.5/ 1    1.6/ 3
 8:30  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     1.3/ 2              2.8/ 4    0.6/ 1    1.3/ 2
 9:00  MNT  Deal or No Deal                        0.9/ 2              1.5/ 2    0.5/ 1    0.7/ 1
 9:30  MNT  Deal or No Deal                   (R)  1.1/ 3              1.0/ 1    0.9/ 1    0.6/ 1

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.6/ 1    0.9/ 2    0.5/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.2/ 0
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.2/ 0    1.4/ 2    0.7/ 1    0.3/ 1    0.5/ 1
 9:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.5/ 1    0.8/ 1    0.8/ 1    1.0/ 2    0.4/ 1
10:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.7/ 2    0.7/ 1    0.9/ 1    1.1/ 2    1.3/ 2
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.4/ 1    0.7/ 2    0.5/ 1    0.9/ 2    1.1/ 2


                                                     #11       #14       #15       #25       #64
 Time  Net  Program                                  DET     TAM-StP  MIN-StPl     IND    FtMy-Npl
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 8:00  ABC  V                                      7.8/13    4.6/ 7^^  5.7/ 9    5.7/ 9    7.1/10
 9:00  ABC  Dancing With The Stars results        13.0/20    9.7/14^^ 10.6/17   10.1/15   10.7/16
10:00  ABC  the forgotten                          4.8/ 8    4.8/ 8^^  4.7/ 7    4.7/ 8    3.8/ 6

 8:00  CBS  NCIS                                  10.0/16   13.2/19   14.1/23   12.6/19   14.6/21
 9:00  CBS  NCIS: Los Angeles                      8.2/12   10.0/14   10.7/17   10.2/15   12.2/18
10:00  CBS  The Good Wife                          7.1/12    7.8/13   12.0/19    8.6/14   10.5/18

 8:00  NBC  Merry Madagascar                  (S)  4.7/ 8    4.2/ 6    6.1/10    5.9/ 9    3.9/ 6
 8:30  NBC  Biggest Loser                          6.4/10    4.7/ 7    7.5/12    6.1/ 9    4.5/ 7
10:00  NBC  The Jay Leno Show                      6.2/11    3.5/ 6    5.9/ 9    4.4/ 7    4.3/ 7

 8:00  FOX  So You Think You Can Dance             4.5/ 7    5.3/ 8    4.9/ 8    3.3/ 5    3.4/ 5

 8:00   CW  90210                                  1.3/ 2    1.0/ 1    1.3/ 2    2.0/ 3    1.4/ 2
 9:00   CW  Melrose Place (Heather Locklear)       1.2/ 2    1.6/ 2    1.0/ 2    1.2/ 2    1.6/ 2

 8:00  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     2.0/ 3    1.2/ 2    2.7/ 4    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1
 8:30  MNT  Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?     1.3/ 2    1.1/ 2    2.5/ 4    0.8/ 1    0.5/ 1
 9:00  MNT  Deal or No Deal                        0.6/ 1    0.9/ 1    1.9/ 3    0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0
 9:30  MNT  Deal or No Deal                   (R)  0.8/ 1    1.3/ 2    2.0/ 3    0.7/ 1    0.1/ 0

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.4/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.4/ 1    -.-/--
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.3/ 1    -.-/--
 9:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.5/ 1    1.0/ 1    1.5/ 2    -.-/--
10:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.6/ 1    1.4/ 2    1.8/ 3    0.1/ 0
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.6/ 1    0.8/ 2    1.1/ 2    0.4/ 1

        ^^  Combined rating of this market's two ABC affiliates
 
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