I don't know if you are asking me this or if it's a rhetorical question. However, I'll provide further clarification on my position on why I agree with Marc that TNT should consider Southland (as quick as possible since it's probably off topic for a ratings analysis).
TNT does run ER already so the audience is used to John Wells shows. There could be some cross promotion there with ER repeats and Southland. As you mentioned Dark Blue and Saving Grace, Saving Grace is ending and Dark Blue is on the chopping block. Everything I've read has stated that TNT is looking for real life dramas with a female lead, critically acclaimed actress. Southland is a real life cop drama with Regina King as the main focus who is getting critical buzz. Southland also has six episodes ready to go and programmable that are fully invested, looking for a home. Since it's a WB show and TNT is a WB owned network, putting it on provides a real chance to make a return on the investment already made with a reduced risk. They are airing their own material that's paid for by NBC.
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Originally posted by Bruce:
I don't think the show is within TNT's brand. Only recently have L&O reruns been bumped from the primetime lineup. The Closer is basically a very traditional type of show. Saving Grace is a one-star vehicle and Dark Blue, which I found unimpressive, is a smooth glitzy production. Recent syndicated rollouts are CSI NY and now Numb3rs. How does Southland fit into this?
But I do think that one of these shows - OTH, SPN, SV - won't survive this year and unfortunately for the OTH fans, I think it'll be OTH. SV actually helped their Friday schedule and SPN is close to syndication so WB might put down their collective foot to keep it for other financial benefits.
OT will end only if other actors refuse to come back or if CW calls it quits. OTH does much better in the W18-34 demo than SV and SN and it's a much better fit for CW's darling GG.
Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: I don't know if you are asking me this or if it's a rhetorical question. However, I'll provide further clarification on my position on why I agree with Marc that TNT should consider Southland (as quick as possible since it's probably off topic for a ratings analysis).
TNT does run ER already so the audience is used to John Wells shows. There could be some cross promotion there with ER repeats and Southland. As you mentioned Dark Blue and Saving Grace, Saving Grace is ending and Dark Blue is on the chopping block. Everything I've read has stated that TNT is looking for real life dramas with a female lead, critically acclaimed actress. Southland is a real life cop drama with Regina King as the main focus who is getting critical buzz. Southland also has six episodes ready to go and programmable that are fully invested, looking for a home. Since it's a WB show and TNT is a WB owned network, putting it on provides a real chance to make a return on the investment already made with a reduced risk. They are airing their own material that's paid for by NBC.
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Originally posted by Bruce:
I don't think the show is within TNT's brand. Only recently have L&O reruns been bumped from the primetime lineup. The Closer is basically a very traditional type of show. Saving Grace is a one-star vehicle and Dark Blue, which I found unimpressive, is a smooth glitzy production. Recent syndicated rollouts are CSI NY and now Numb3rs. How does Southland fit into this?
Originally posted by TheMBC: My guess is the comedies will do better, so they'll move those, and then burn off Fringe on Fridays at 8pm with Dollhouse, no matter how much I love Dollhouse /:
Why do so many people suggest moving Fringe to Friday? That would just be an unnecessary death sentence when we have clearly seen that it can produce high ratings in another time period than Thursday at 9.
I love the idea of Fringe on Fridays at 9pm--the old timeslot of The X-Files, which became a cult hit there, and then moved to Sundays, big ratings, and a creative decline that still leaves a bad taste in the mouths of X-Philes.
Fringe wouldn't be saddled with high ratings expectations on Friday. The problem is budget--it's one of the more expensive shows to produce on the air now. But no way they wouldn't do better with Fringe than they're doing with Dollhouse now. You can't lower a drama's budget THAT much. Even the Leno Show isn't cheaply produced enough to justify those Dollhouse ratings.
FOX is right now debating how much longer they can let the Dollhouse debacle go on.
Originally posted by TheMBC: My guess is the comedies will do better, so they'll move those, and then burn off Fringe on Fridays at 8pm with Dollhouse, no matter how much I love Dollhouse /:
Why do so many people suggest moving Fringe to Friday? That would just be an unnecessary death sentence when we have clearly seen that it can produce high ratings in another time period than Thursday at 9.
Fringe should move to Tuesday at 9 and air behind AI again come January and then FOX can make a smarter decision for the coming fall and not air it against GA and CSI again.
Sometimes you can't be too concerned with what people are suggesting. Fringe will not be moving to friday, for the reasons you mentioned. It became the fall sacrificial lamb because they were prioriting Glee and they are hellbent on trying to make something out of Lie to Me, or at least developing an aud so they can move it around as well. Fox can see the wasteland that friday is becoming and Fringe can be re-habbed once away from the shows you mentioned and out of the neighborhood of FlashForward. I think the launch of that show temporarily hurt Fringe. Its decline may benefit Fringe.
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Leno now at 1.3? This is getting awful. What on Earth was NBC thinking by firing Leno from the Tonight SHow and then giving him the 10pm slot? Dumb, dumb, beyond dumb
Originally posted by GMYERS: Great rebound for GW and Medium but Numbers is obviously failing.
Numb3rs is not failing. What you see is an effect of the baseball game.
I was judging Numbers against the performance of GW and Medium which also went up against baseball last week and this week but they went up this week while Numbers did not.
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Originally posted by tommie: Actually - it wouldn't surprise me if Smallville got another season,
I wouldn't be surprised, either, especially if they pair Smallville with Tom Welling's other show in development for CW (the thing about the Cheerleeders being developed with the Desperate Housewives/Caprica/Reaper fixture Kevin Murphy). http://www.variety.com/article...4&cs=1&query=welling
Originally posted by GMYERS: Great rebound for GW and Medium but Numbers is obviously failing.
Numb3rs is not failing. What you see is an effect of the baseball game.
I was judging Numbers against the performance of GW and Medium which also went up against baseball last week and this week but they went up this week while Numbers did not.
The end of a tied game going into extra innings pulls in more viewership than early innings. Wait until the Nielsen data comes out for the baseball game and it will be clear why Numb3rs lost some viewers/demo.
Originally posted by robert: Leno now at 1.3? This is getting awful. What on Earth was NBC thinking by firing Leno from the Tonight SHow and then giving him the 10pm slot? Dumb, dumb, beyond dumb
Not compared to renewing Dollhouse. Face it, the networks are doing a lot of dumb things. They're all headed for the scrap heap, sooner or later.
