Big Brother performed respectably in a timeslot opposite the TV ratings monster and another reality show, The Biggest Loser. I'm actually a bit surprised at how well it did.
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Originally posted by lopez: Why Big Brother is not a loser?
THIRD in viewers THIRD in the demo
I agree .. With all the promotions CBS does for this show it got bad ratings . The Unit did much better against AI compared to BB !! What is CBS thinking ?
Originally posted by tvfan300: Big Brother performed respectably in a timeslot opposite the TV ratings monster and another reality show, The Biggest Loser. I'm actually a bit surprised at how well it did.
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Originally posted by Pam:
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Originally posted by lopez: Why Big Brother is not a loser?
THIRD in viewers THIRD in the demo
I agree .. With all the promotions CBS does for this show it got bad ratings . The Unit did much better against AI compared to BB !! What is CBS thinking ?
JUST FOR LAUGHS 3.4/5 1.4/4 5,072,000 ACCORDING TO JIM 3.3/5 1.4/3 4,908,000 CARPOOLERS 2.6/4 1.3/3 3,901,000 BOSTON LEGAL 4.9/8 1.8/5 7,249,000
BIG BROTHER 4.3/6 2.5/6 6,883,000 JERICHO 4.2/7 2.6/7 7,085,000
BIGGEST LOSER 4.6/7 2.9/7 7,399,000
AMERICAN IDOL 16.6/25 12.3/29 29,962,000
ONE TREE HILL 2.1/3 1.4/3 3,164,000 1.8/4
NIP TUCK (64 minutes) 1.8/3 1.6/4 2,714,000 DOG SHOW (USA, 182 minutes) 2.2/3 0.8/2 3,391,000
Granted Jericho's overall rating was not good, but it's 18-49 rating is not so bad. It actually grew out of Big Brother and was the second highest rated 18-49 program for the night. It will be interesting to see how Jericho rating hold up next week.
Originally posted by Pam: No surprise Jericho did not do well and it was expected .. My biggest surprise was CBS decision to still allow Big Brother since it got lower ratings and demos than The Unit and yet is much more hyped not only in media but on their website .
There is quality programming ie The Unit and the crud like Big Brother but CBS would have have the crud show on its schedule .. You gotta love networking choices *rolleyes* and now know why more and more are tuning out not tuning in ..
They didn't just decide to replace The Unit with BB, The Unit ran out of episodes because of the strike. And they aren't keeping it to slight The Unit. They're keeping it on because it will be over a month before any of the dramas come back.
To me, there's a blatant error in logic that shows like Gossip Girl and Veronica Mars are given inumerable chances because of executive favoritism, while shows like SPN and OTH have to fight for a renewal.
Agreed, but you're simply practicing the same 'logic' in reverse. Veronica Mars fans made every single complaint you did. And felt every bit as justified in doing so.
The shows that have been favored to a greater extent are the shows that Dawn Ostroff had a hand in developing. And yeah, by all means--fire her ass. But for all that, VM is canceled, and SN & OTH are still around. And they simply aren't as popular as they used to be, and they were never all that popular to start with.
Don't you think the VM fans would have KILLED for the Post-Smallville timeslot?
Then when they got it, they'd have complained about how VM couldn't be expected to get good ratings on Thursdays at 9pm.
And what I'm saying is that I honestly don't see much difference between these various CW fanbases. And all of them combined don't add up to a sufficient audience to keep the network alive. And they're preventing the network from finding an audience that can support it.
Nobody's saying you can't think and say what you like. Why do you have such a problem with people thinking and saying that they don't agree with you?
Originally posted by Pam: No surprise Jericho did not do well and it was expected .. My biggest surprise was CBS decision to still allow Big Brother since it got lower ratings and demos than The Unit and yet is much more hyped not only in media but on their website .
There is quality programming ie The Unit and the crud like Big Brother but CBS would have have the crud show on its schedule .. You gotta love networking choices *rolleyes* and now know why more and more are tuning out not tuning in ..
They didn't just decide to replace The Unit with BB, The Unit ran out of episodes because of the strike. And they aren't keeping it to slight The Unit. They're keeping it on because it will be over a month before any of the dramas come back.
If that is the case why hasn't CBS asked for new episodes of The Unit like it has other dramas ? Seems suspicious to me !
To be fair we're all here on a message board debating moves networks make involving television shows and posting on it several times daily. So I guess to most of us on here the shows that we like are more than "Just. A. Television. Program."
We're here to discuss ratings--of course we discuss the shows as well. Of course there are shows we particularly like (or hate). But in the end, the ratings are what they are. And the rest is just idle speculation. And if a show is more than just a show to you, that's going to bias your ratings analysis--and bring you to dubious conclusions.
And I'd understand if it was something really groundbreaking and relevant. But c'mon--the person I'm debating with is worried about ONE TREE HILL. Which is already in its fifth season. Enough, already!
JUST FOR LAUGHS 3.4/5 1.4/4 5,072,000 ACCORDING TO JIM 3.3/5 1.4/3 4,908,000 CARPOOLERS 2.6/4 1.3/3 3,901,000 BOSTON LEGAL 4.9/8 1.8/5 7,249,000
BIG BROTHER 4.3/6 2.5/6 6,883,000 JERICHO 4.2/7 2.6/7 7,085,000
BIGGEST LOSER 4.6/7 2.9/7 7,399,000
AMERICAN IDOL 16.6/25 12.3/29 29,962,000
ONE TREE HILL 2.1/3 1.4/3 3,164,000 1.8/4
NIP TUCK (64 minutes) 1.8/3 1.6/4 2,714,000 DOG SHOW (USA, 182 minutes) 2.2/3 0.8/2 3,391,000
Granted Jericho's overall rating was not good, but it's 18-49 rating is not so bad. It actually grew out of Big Brother and was the second highest rated 18-49 program for the night. It will be interesting to see how Jericho rating hold up next week.
Ha! After hearing all day that Jericho was a horrible terrible loser, it turns out to do 44% better in the Demo than BL, and even gains viewers from the premiere of BB, or as I call it, the Employement for Les Moonves' Wife Show.
By the way, that 2.6 in the Demo was better than every episode of Cane after the Season Premiere.
Cane's Ratings (finals)
Week Viewers Demo ----------------------------------------- 09/25/07 11.21 M 3.0 10/02/07 9.19 M 2.5 10/09/07 9.11 M 2.3 10/16/07 8.54 M 2.2 10/23/07 7.98 M 2.0 10/30/07 8.05 M 2.0 11/06/07 7.78 M 1.9 11/13/07 7.29 M 1.8 11/20/07 7.54 M 2.0 11/27/07 6.48 M 1.6 12/11/07(2hr) 7.69 M 2.0 12/18/07 7.13 M 1.8
No, it's not a blockbuster, but I'd rather be in its shoes than Jim Belushi's last night.
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Third highest. AI and TBL had higher demo ratings.
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SHOW HH A18-49 Viewers A18-34
JUST FOR LAUGHS 3.4/5 1.4/4 5,072,000 ACCORDING TO JIM 3.3/5 1.4/3 4,908,000 CARPOOLERS 2.6/4 1.3/3 3,901,000 BOSTON LEGAL 4.9/8 1.8/5 7,249,000
BIG BROTHER 4.3/6 2.5/6 6,883,000 JERICHO 4.2/7 2.6/7 7,085,000
BIGGEST LOSER 4.6/7 2.9/7 7,399,000
AMERICAN IDOL 16.6/25 12.3/29 29,962,000
ONE TREE HILL 2.1/3 1.4/3 3,164,000 1.8/4
NIP TUCK (64 minutes) 1.8/3 1.6/4 2,714,000 DOG SHOW (USA, 182 minutes) 2.2/3 0.8/2 3,391,000
Granted Jericho's overall rating was not good, but it's 18-49 rating is not so bad. It actually grew out of Big Brother and was the second highest rated 18-49 program for the night. It will be interesting to see how Jericho rating hold up next week.
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Originally posted by Pam: No surprise Jericho did not do well and it was expected .. My biggest surprise was CBS decision to still allow Big Brother since it got lower ratings and demos than The Unit and yet is much more hyped not only in media but on their website .
There is quality programming ie The Unit and the crud like Big Brother but CBS would have have the crud show on its schedule .. You gotta love networking choices *rolleyes* and now know why more and more are tuning out not tuning in ..
They didn't just decide to replace The Unit with BB, The Unit ran out of episodes because of the strike. And they aren't keeping it to slight The Unit. They're keeping it on because it will be over a month before any of the dramas come back.
If that is the case why hasn't CBS asked for new episodes of The Unit like it has other dramas ? Seems suspicious to me !
There's no reason to stop BB now or in the middle of it's run. If it were just filling that one spot, maybe there would be reason to shorten it. But it's also filling two other spots, which would be empty otherwise.
Originally posted by Pam: No surprise Jericho did not do well and it was expected .. My biggest surprise was CBS decision to still allow Big Brother since it got lower ratings and demos than The Unit and yet is much more hyped not only in media but on their website .
There is quality programming ie The Unit and the crud like Big Brother but CBS would have have the crud show on its schedule .. You gotta love networking choices *rolleyes* and now know why more and more are tuning out not tuning in ..
They didn't just decide to replace The Unit with BB, The Unit ran out of episodes because of the strike. And they aren't keeping it to slight The Unit. They're keeping it on because it will be over a month before any of the dramas come back.
If that is the case why hasn't CBS asked for new episodes of The Unit like it has other dramas ? Seems suspicious to me !
There's no reason to stop BB now or in the middle of it's run. If it were just filling that one spot, maybe there would be reason to shorten it. But it's also filling two other spots, which would be empty otherwise.
Sorry for disrecting anyone watching BB .. I guess I am really shocked CBS did not request new episodes of The Unit but that is no reason to get down on BB.. I do not watch it as it doesn't look good to me but I'm not into reality shows !!
Originally posted by Pam: Sorry for disrecting anyone watching BB .. I guess I am really shocked CBS did not request new episodes of The Unit but that is no reason to get down on BB.. I do not watch it as it doesn't look good to me but I'm not into reality shows !!
I don't like reality shows either, and if CBS decided to drop The Unit and air BB in a non-strike situation, I would agree with you.
LOS ANGELES (thefutoncritic.com) -- FOX has confirmed its summer plans, which will once again include new seasons of "So You Think You Can Dance" and "Hell's Kitchen."
Joining them this time around: newcomer "When Women Rule the World" as well as fresh installments of "The Moment of Truth."
Things kick off on Thursday, May 22 with the two-hour season premiere of "So You Think You Can Dance." Two-hour editions of the series will run on Wednesdays and Thursdays through June 5. Then on June 12, "The Moment of Truth" will fill the 8:00/7:00c hour on Thursdays followed by "Dance's" one-hour results shows at 9:00/8:00c.
Next up is the two-hour premiere of "When Women Rule the World" on Monday, May 26. Subsequent weeks will feature "Rule" at 8:00/7:00c and repeats of "Bones" at 9:00/8:00c.
Tuesdays will showcase repeats of "House" at 8:00/7:00c with the new season of "Hell's Kitchen," which bows April 1 as previously announced, continuing at 9:00/8:00c.
Rounding out the network's summer slate will be movies on Friday nights, mainstays "Cops" and "America's Most Wanted" on Saturdays and repeats of "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?" and its animated quartet on Sundays.
To review, here's a recap of the aforementioned plans:
Monday, May 26 8:00/7:00c - "When Women Rule the World" (Two-Hour Series Premiere)
Mondays (June 2-July 21) 8:00/7:00c - "When Women Rule the World" 9:00/8:00c - "Bones" (Repeats)
Monday, July 28 8:00/7:00c - "When Women Rule the World" (Two-Hour Season Finale)
Monday, August 4 8:00/7:00c - "Teen Choice 2008" (Two-Hour Special)
Sundays (as of June 1) 7:00/6:00c - "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?" (Repeats) 8:00/7:00c - "The Simpsons" (Repeats) 8:30/7:30c - "King of the Hill" (Repeats) 9:00/8:00c - "Family Guy" (Repeats) 9:30/8:30c - "American Dad" (Repeats)
Originally posted by GuyNoir: While I think the show is riddled with inconsistencies (as lakers247 said, it would be much better on HBO or Showtime)
What does one have to do with the other? Shows like The Wire or Dexter are better written than anything on CBS. Jericho on Sci-Fi, maybe. Big Grin
Heh...You're right, I wasn't very clear. I think part of the problem with Jericho is that it was both too dark and edgy (for a mass audience on CBS) and not dark and edgy enough (for a good-sized cult audience). On message boards fans go back and forth between liking the concept of the show and mocking the elements that are there to "lighten" it (perfectly coiffed women, romantic triangle subplots, town cookouts).
Presumably, a premium network like HBO would allow the show the freedom to really explore such dark subject matter without restrictions on language and tone (hey, they kept The Wire on for five years).
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Originally posted by AmericanGothic: I think one of the many problems with The CW is that they are very selective with what shows they want to succeed. They could've done better with handling shows such as: Life Is Wild, Hidden Palms.
In the case of Hidden Palms, I think they paid for a product, then realized that it was total garbage when it arrived. All the other networks will hold off a show like that for summer burnoff as well. Life is Wild is a bit different because, at least on paper, it looked like it would be a show with broad range appeal and a fascination 'on location' angle. Unfortunately, what showed up was just another family/teen soap and for whatever reason (I won't speculate on at the moment), the fans of the last family soap in that timeslot were unwilling to try the new show. It is unfortunate that the 7th Heaven fans rejected Life is Wild, but people thinking that the show would have suceeded if it had simply been moved to another night and advertised more are kidding themselves. The CW did have a 'here it is. Now, it is up to you to keep it on the air' attitude for the show. It was an experimental type show due to the setting and if the 'word of mouth' wasn't going to get people to watch it, nothing would. Jericho is getting the same attitude from CBS right now. The fans were told to make it popular or this would be the end. If the 'core fanbase' won't watch the show and pursuade their friends/family/neighbors/etc... to watch it, then it won't survive.
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It's probably the reason she never made UPN successful
Despite the propaganda on this messageboard, UPN was every bit as successful as WB.
