I dont get why people get so bent out of shape over pishers remarks. He has every right, just like you and I, to state his opinion. I personally could care less about him/her and try to avoid answering back to his comments and I suggest if you have the same problem you do the same.
It's just that the shows we're supposed to discuss are mainly so BORING.
They can't help gravitating to a more interesting subject. They literally can't stop themselves.
NBC is blowing it with Bionic Woman (or at least what I've seen of it). It would be more competetive if it wasn't so poorly done. And Michele Ryan walks through her scenes wearing the same constipated look. I predict the numbers will continue to fall.
Til Death has been given many chances by Fox and people just aren't interested. The puny growth out of Back to You is negligible.
I don't see anything wrong with them. They are highly opinionated but respectful. Maybe they get tired of his smilie use?
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Originally posted by tv avenger: I dont get why people get so bent out of shape over pishers remarks. He has every right, just like you and I, to state his opinion. I personally could care less about him/her and try to avoid answering back to his comments and I suggest if you have the same problem you do the same.
Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville: The CW was stubborn. They thought they could buy a hit with unreliable data and the promise of stability. Basically, they made a huge mistake.
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Originally posted by Carrie: Seeing the ratings for Gossip Girl, I can't figure out why they picked the show up for a complete season. Even though the cast is not well known, it can't be a cheap show to produce. Then again, premature pick ups like this are probably why the CW is not doing very well.
I disagree... the show is struggling for sure but what else is going to work? the show had every critic applauding it and tons of buzz and it didnt open... what else can they do? If they cancel the show what else do you put in it's place? at some point the CW has to say it's not our lineup... it's us...
The bottom line is every network is stuck with this... if we cancel this what do we have to put in its place?
We have this 2-3M viewer difference between a hit and a failure... and I'd guess that's the closest that ratio has ever been...
DSM is dead in any context. Sorry, but the numbers show it. Please stop trolling and doing insults. It reflects negatively on you and your posts.
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville: Yes, Pushing Daisies hasn't been talked about at all. Please troll somewhere else.
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Originally posted by meggie:
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There's been a debate on which will be cancelled first PD or DSM. PD will definately stay around longer than DSM.
No there hasn't. The debate has been between DSM and Big Shots, which you so handily left out of your post. Funny that.
I never said it wasn't talked about. I just haven't seen this great Pushing Daisies vs. DSM debate you seem to have been reading. I've seen PD vs. S60 and DSM vs. Big Shots. But I'm not surprised you avoided delving into that debate, because we all know your show loses in that matchup.
I thought it was dead as well. But, reading over some posts after mine, I think it might not be as dead as I thought.
Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville: DSM is dead in any context.
It did perform better than Week 4 of The Nine, with a lead-in that had over five million fewer viewers and 2.8 less in the demo. That should be pleasing to you, since you're a big fan of following a timeslot's track record. As for the notion that it's in "Cane territory," are you one of those people who thinks the 18-49 demo doesn't matter?
In other news: NBC has to be really bumming about the bottom falling out for Bionic. I think people are finally realizing what a trainwreck that show is (unless it drastically improved since the first two eps... I admit I haven't seen the last two).
Life, meanwhile, only dropped around 500K viewers and zip in the demo (from a lead-in that bled 1.5 mil, 0.5 demo), is still about 50% better than the end of Kidnapped was doing, and is now retaining nearly 90% of its Bionic lead-in and 85% of its demo. For a show that is STILL getting very little promotion! I don't think the show is doing well or anything, but I can't imagine it would be on the immediate chopping block, all things considered. And it's still doing significantly better than Journeyman, that's for sure.
pisher is an instigator. He'll say things he knows push people's buttons because it is fun and it incites debate on the board. Love him or hate him, it is almost impossible to ignore him.
If he wasn't here, it would probably be necessary to invent him.
I have to say I 100% agree with everything you said about PD's episode 2. It was like eating fudge, after two servings I was sick of it's overly rich taste. In fact I was surprised it's third week didn't see a bigger drop off. But I did give episode 3 a chance and to my surprise I liked it again. Episode three was different, the whole over the top style was toned down a little, the characters became a little more complex as the girl, Chuck had to come to terms with someone dying in her place and I will give it another week to see where it goes.
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Originally posted by TK: As much as I liked the pilot for Pushing Daisies, I did not like episode two. Everything I thought was magical about the premiere was annoying in the second episode. Once the woman started singing in the pie shop I started thinking "maybe I won't watch this next week", and I didn't. Plus that dead/back alive woman is very annoying (to me, anyway).
I seems to me it's just a typical procedural show. It's really not that different in form from a show like Medium. Actually a very similar idea. Stylistically it's very different, but that fades rather quickly. Anyway, I don't care if it gets cancelled or not, but I'm done with it.
I thought it was dead as well. But, reading over some posts after mine, I think it might not be as dead as I thought.
I think Big Shots could be in more trouble.
A little more fuel for the fire...
and Nets LOVE awards like the Emmys and Golden Globes.... Big Shots has zero chance of even being nominated at this point but DSM could pick up some noms...
Leave pisher alone. His comments are among the more intelligent here.
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Originally posted by baturcotte: pisher is an instigator. He'll say things he knows push people's buttons because it is fun and it incites debate on the board. Love him or hate him, it is almost impossible to ignore him.
If he wasn't here, it would probably be necessary to invent him.
NBC has never given Life proper promotion. It's like they are expecting the show to fail or at least use it as a scapegoat to justify scheduling changes. If promoted, it could do much better in it's timeslot. NBC seems to not want to do that.
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Originally posted by spotupj:
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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville: DSM is dead in any context.
It did perform better than Week 4 of The Nine, with a lead-in that had over five million fewer viewers and 2.8 less in the demo. That should be pleasing to you, since you're a big fan of following a timeslot's track record. As for the notion that it's in "Cane territory," are you one of those people who thinks the 18-49 demo doesn't matter?
In other news: NBC has to be really bumming about the bottom falling out for Bionic. I think people are finally realizing what a trainwreck that show is (unless it drastically improved since the first two eps... I admit I haven't seen the last two).
Life, meanwhile, only dropped around 500K viewers and zip in the demo (from a lead-in that bled 1.5 mil, 0.5 demo), is still about 50% better than the end of Kidnapped was doing, and is now retaining nearly 90% of its Bionic lead-in and 85% of its demo. For a show that is STILL getting very little promotion! I don't think the show is doing well or anything, but I can't imagine it would be on the immediate chopping block, all things considered. And it's still doing significantly better than Journeyman, that's for sure.
My guess is that they Power of 10 Wednesdays at 8 through December, than Amazing Race there in January. Maybe they will move Kid Nation to Saturdays to complete the run.
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I have a feeling CBS will yank Kid Nation soon and put Power of 10 on Wednesdays at 8, at least for November sweeps. This would be a great move since NBC is pulling DOND off.
Power of 10 is a viable option I didn't consider. Of course, will Power of 10 really do better than a low 2ish in the demo against first run competition? I don't know? Maybe?
Maybe CBS will just leave KN on tto finish its run, and plug TAr or Power of 10 in for Winter/Spring?
pisher is an instigator. He'll say things he knows push people's buttons because it is fun and it incites debate on the board. Love him or hate him, it is almost impossible to ignore him.
Actually, there's a very effective means of doing precisely that. Why do you think I never respond to Dumont anymore?
Seriously, I do enjoy trashing shows I perceive as both bad and overpraised by people who are too easily gulled by pretentious hacks. It's not my favorite thing in the world, or my 100th favorite thing in the world, but it passes the time at work, before I can go do my favorite things.
I'll probably continue doing it here for quite a while, regardless of the personal comments that are directed at me. In fact, the more personal comments that are directed at me, the more frequently I tend to post. And the more certain people defend a show they like by saying "If you don't like it, you're stupid and tasteless!", the more inclined I am to poke fun at said show.
So maybe certain people need to rethink their strategy?
