Would you please QUIT with the gd winking after every smug sentence out of your mouth?
You don't like smug? Are you SURE you're a PD fan?
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Some of us love TV, and love GOOD TV, something creative, well-written, artistic, thoughtful, and just plain fun.
And every--single--person who likes these things has to think PD qualifies as any of the above? Because, you know, some people might say you don't know what creative, well-written, artistic, thoughtful, or just plain fun IS.
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Even if we don't, even if we hate it, or even with the things we DO hate, we don't rub it in the faces incessently of those who do like whatever we don't like, and niggle and taunt that what we love will be taken away from us.
Right--that which you value more than life itself. Your only reason for existing. The show that keeps you from ending it all. How churlish of me. Please forgive.
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Personally, retaining a lead in the only demographic that matters
In a timeslot that demographic clearly isn't liking much right about now.
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and cleaning up in critical accolades (something Studio 60 did NOT do past the pilot,
So the critics who praised Studio 60 when it premiered, had all changed their minds two weeks after it premiered? Who knew? Actually, nobody.
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on top of the ratings drop) should be enough for the show. ABC certainly isn't cleaning up in pretty much anything else this season except for it's old standbys.
Ah--the classic CW argument--"Everything else they have is a flop, so they have to keep my show on!"
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But again, for the sake of common courtesy, can you please stop with the frigging winking? It's tasteless and condescending.
Pshaw! If you love PD so much, tasteless and condescending is just exactly what you're looking for!
Big Shots will go before DSM. It's reviled amongst critics. Alan Sepinwall actually referred to it as being worse than Caveman. And it's losing way more of its lead-in than DSM. I think DSM is safe until at least January. It's not a hit, but it's doing okay.
Thanks for finding the ratings, pisher. I guess my point wasn't so much about ratings comparisons as much as relative performance within its time period. Obviously, "Studio 60" has more viewers coming out of "Heroes" at 10PM than "Pushing Daisies" does anchoring the night at 8PM. But the old link seems to indicate "Studio 60" didn't win A18-49 in its second or third week -- a feat "Pushing Daisies" has already accomplished. By those standards, I feel like "Pushing Daisies" is doing better three weeks in.
Kid Nation seems to have upticked in demo over last week. CBS needs to make a decision soon on whether to shoot Kid Nation 2 for a spring airing. Maybe Moonves just got his rationale for the go ahead.
I think a summer time frame would help the show more. If a Spring version is in it futre, make just 8 episodes, not 16, for March/April airings
Now about VIVA LAUGHLIN viewing tonight...is it just me or has ANYONE seen any promos from CBS that feature the fact that SINGING occures...I haven't? If CBS is afraid of acknowledge it why...why...why would they greenlight it as a series?!
EVERY network tried to get this show based on the Brit version... and what happened is CBS didn't capture what made Viva Blackpool so good... The singing was TERRIBLE in the pilot and now what they have done is jack up the music and moved the singing to the background.
Still think if CBS could have talked Hugh Jackman into being on the show they might have something... Plenty of people will tune in tonight and probably on Sunday and feel duped that Hugh isn't really on the show. He's really good in Viva... rest of the cast and story..not so much.
I think the comparison between Studio 60 and PD is unjustified here. S60 lost nearly two million viewers and two points in the A18-49 demos from its second to its third week. Pushing Daisies lost only a few hundred-thousand viewers and didn't lose any of its A18-49 demo. If there is gonna be a decline, it's likely to be much slower than Studio 60's.
As much as I liked the pilot for Pushing Daisies, I did not like episode two. Everything I thought was magical about the premiere was annoying in the second episode. Once the woman started singing in the pie shop I started thinking "maybe I won't watch this next week", and I didn't. Plus that dead/back alive woman is very annoying (to me, anyway).
I seems to me it's just a typical procedural show. It's really not that different in form from a show like Medium. Actually a very similar idea. Stylistically it's very different, but that fades rather quickly. Anyway, I don't care if it gets cancelled or not, but I'm done with it.
Hey Marc, do you have the break down for male 2 day olds to 2 year olds demo for Kid Nation? This must be the target now. I figure if it is stellar with 2-11 year olds …..
I still think Kid Nation may stay to finish its run. CBS doesn’t have a lot to put at 8:00 at the moment. It’s too late in the fall to start TAR. Even without the non-elimination legs, and considering probably a few already planned preemptions during sweeps, the final would be pushed too far into December. Furthermore, 8:00 isn’t as good slot for the CSI repeats or drama premiers in general. I guess Jericho would be about the only real option.
Given the low expense of reality programming, the pending strike, and the lack of replacements, I think Kid Nation will finish its run. And as I type, there is probably a press release being offered to the alternative.
I do agree that if ABC is going to cancel a show it will probably be Big Shots first. The 10 o’clock slot on Wednesdays is owned for the most part by CSI NY, but the 10 o’clock period on Thursdays is still pretty open, with WAT down and ER fading.
I also think Bionic Women will get to finish the season if the ratings don’t fall of the chart. The ratings are not horrible at the moment. What other options does NBC have? DOND seems to be coming back a bit, but the sure way to kill that would be to go back to three nights a week. Heroes is a hit by today’s standards but doesn’t repeat well. Plus, NBC doesn’t have a full contingent of L/O franchises anymore to plug holes.
Fox is just Idoling by, sipping some sweet tea until January.
Originally posted by pisher: 10/02/06 – Overnights: 7.2/11; Viewers: 9.05 million; A18-49: 3.5/ 9
I'd say the advantage is Studio 60's so far.
This is almost as absurd as your claim that Studio 60 had a "small" drop between weeks 2 and 3. Pushing is doing what it's doing with no lead-in, while S60 had one of the largest lead-ins on all of NBC and was hemorrhaging it.
To spin Pushing's week 3 ratings into a negative requires either a lot of speculation or a lot of initial expectations that were unrealistic. You can say it's in for a S60 fall, but it just isn't there in the ratings yet.
Gossip Girl lost a half million from last week. Any growth that this show earned the last two weeks was taken away this week as it hit a series low. It was given a series order way too fast. There is no market for it. I'm just waiting for OTH to take it's spot after ANTM. It might not do fantastic numbers, but it will do better then Gossip Girl.
This week was the week B2Y was supposed to get it's season pickup. Now I think FOX will go with just a script order. How is this show doing worse in te ratings and demos than Til Death, a show most critics didn't want back this season?
Dirty, Sexy, Money is settling to unimpressive numbers. Yes, it is on the chopping block and on it's way out. It's in Cane territory. Right now DSM will be lucky to complete the full season. There's been a debate on which will be cancelled first PD or DSM. PD will definately stay around longer than DSM.
Life is facing the same situation as Dirty, Sexy, Money. Unless something drastic happens, it won't get a full season.
I'd say Bionic Women isn't starting out well either. A lot of people placed this as the first NBC show to get a season order (myself included). However, it's just pulling roughly the same numbesr DSM is. That is not good for a show that NBC highlighted all season as one of their gems. I'm sure it'll get a season pickup in stubborness, but is anyone impressed with it's declining performance?
Kid Nation is Kid Nation. Probably should be the first CBS show to be shown the door. Probably will be kept due to it's cheap production costs.
I have been saying the same things for last couple of weeks. It really makes no sense, especially with November sweeps around the corner. They should have just Phenomenon on Tuesdays at 8 followed by a 1 hour Biggest Loser at 9. And yank Singing Bee for now.
I have a feeling CBS will yank Kid Nation soon and put Power of 10 on Wednesdays at 8, at least for November sweeps. This would be a great move since NBC is pulling DOND off.
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Originally posted by SW: To me, NBC is just nutty for pulling the Wednesday Deal or No Deal for the next few weeks. It's just getting its audience back. Couldn't they use Phenomenon on Monday, Tuesday, later Wednesday, or on Friday?
This is almost as absurd as your claim that Studio 60 had a "small" drop between weeks 2 and 3. Pushing is doing what it's doing with no lead-in, while S60 had one of the largest lead-ins on all of NBC and was hemorrhaging it.
You know, it's funny--I seem to recall talking to people who sounded exactly like you last season, who insisted Studio 60 was doing great, and would not be canceled.
Seeing the ratings for Gossip Girl, I can't figure out why they picked the show up for a complete season. Even though the cast is not well known, it can't be a cheap show to produce. Then again, premature pick ups like this are probably why the CW is not doing very well.
