Originally posted by PaulC: I dont know whether they can afford to cancel 30 Rock or not. It depends on how Andy Richter's show does I suppose.
However, why would that decision be tied in any way to Studio 60? Is Scrub's fate tied to ER cause they are both set in hospitals? That line of reasoning always escapes me.
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Originally posted by TeelaJBrown: I've resigned myself to the fact that MIT will be cancelled. But can NBC really afford to cancel 30 Rock? Especially if they cancel Studio 60? Both of their 'behind the scenes of sketch comedy shows' shows will have failed.
At least Baldwin got to win an award or two...
My point was that a big deal was made in the press about which of the 2 shows would survive, and since they were covering similar ground, if the could both survive. NBC was of course confident they could both thrive (and I agree this is a silly argument as there are multiple hospital, law, police shows on and there's never that question). I just ponder whether NBC will wave the white flag and admit that people just couldn't get into the shows.
I still think 30 Rock deserves a chance, but that's just me.
Posts: 91 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 30 October 2006
You're right PaulC. I think 30 Rock definitley depends on Andy Richter: PI. If his show holds onto more Scrubs lead in then I'd say 30 Rock is in big trouble.
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Originally posted by PaulC: I dont know whether they can afford to cancel 30 Rock or not. It depends on how Andy Richter's show does I suppose.
However, why would that decision be tied in any way to Studio 60? Is Scrub's fate tied to ER cause they are both set in hospitals? That line of reasoning always escapes me.
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Originally posted by TeelaJBrown: I've resigned myself to the fact that MIT will be cancelled. But can NBC really afford to cancel 30 Rock? Especially if they cancel Studio 60? Both of their 'behind the scenes of sketch comedy shows' shows will have failed.
Originally posted by kimends: I am completely baffled by that rating for Supernatural. Wow. Last night's episode had to be one of their best episodes ever.
Yeah, it was awesome. And I'm not doubting the quality of the episode itself, but...doesn't the preview for next week's episode make it look HORRIBLE? I'm worried they are driving away viewers.
Posts: 302 | Location: Indiana | Registered: 29 January 2007
For a freshman sitcom opposite CSI and Grey's, it is more than renewable. And why shouldn't it "catch on"? As I wrote previously, what's so "inside" about Valentine's Day? It stopped being about making a tv show months ago.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: 81% isn't great Gee, especially when you have quite a compatible lead in with Scrubs. Face it, even if it's renewed, 30 Rock is very unlikely to catch on, and that is a real shame because it's a very good show.
Posts: 1462 | Location: NY | Registered: 19 September 2006
Originally posted by robert: SN did worse than OTH. Didn't expect that. CW is in big trouble
Well actually, One Tree Hill's final number was 2.73, so Supernatural did better. I have a feeling Supernatural's final number will be a bit higher than fast nationals...at least I hope it is because I can't make any sense of that rating.
OTH's ratings [Wed. Feb. 7th] were actually 2.85 million. So OTH's ratings are actually higher, plus OTH scored higher in the demographic as well. Final numbers can't be determined until after a week.
Did you ever hear of Arrested Development, Gee? Did that ever catch on?
Yes, I think 30 Rock will get renewed. But I doubt if it will ever find a large audience.
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Originally posted by Gee: For a freshman sitcom opposite CSI and Grey's, it is more than renewable. And why shouldn't it "catch on"? As I wrote previously, what's so "inside" about Valentine's Day? It stopped being about making a tv show months ago.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: 81% isn't great Gee, especially when you have quite a compatible lead in with Scrubs. Face it, even if it's renewed, 30 Rock is very unlikely to catch on, and that is a real shame because it's a very good show.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: 3. Too much fall-off for Men in Tees out of Grey’s Anatomy means the network is sharpening the axe.
[QUOTE] Originally posted by pisher MIT isn't getting stronger--it's just that Grey's is giving it bigger and bigger lead-ins, which it persists in throwing away.
Put it on without a lead-in, or with a weak lead-in. Watch the ratings fall. Like TIMBERRRRRR!!! [QUOTE]
Compared to what was occuring last fall with Six Degrees in the timeslot (each week audience levels dipped lower and lower), I would think ABC is happy that MIT has maintained the timeslot at the same levels each week. Sure they would hope for better retention, but the results ABC is getting is far better than what was occuring. Based on these ratings, why would they cancel the show. They are within two share points of winning the time period. I believe the show will survive for next season, but not on Thursdays. I'm sure Thursdays will go to another overhyped drama that can't fulfil its promised hype.
With everything else ABC needs to address, I'm sure patience with MIT will be shown.
I understand you can't know if an episode is great until you watch it, but I really thought the promo for this episode of Supernatural was well done and showed that this episode was going to be a big deal. Also, I'd be willing to bet people tuned out in the second half hour, which doesn't make any sense to me because I thought the first half hour was awesome. I mean come on...Sam killed a guy. Didn't people want to know WHY that happened?
But whatever. I'm trying not to get too worked up over this. There's nothing I can do about it.
Posts: 258 | Location: New York | Registered: 28 November 2006
C'mon. That was just press nonsense. No relation to real biz life.
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Originally posted by TeelaJBrown: My point was that a big deal was made in the press about which of the 2 shows would survive, and since they were covering similar ground, if the could both survive. NBC was of course confident they could both thrive (and I agree this is a silly argument as there are multiple hospital, law, police shows on and there's never that question). I just ponder whether NBC will wave the white flag and admit that people just couldn't get into the shows.
I still think 30 Rock deserves a chance, but that's just me.
Posts: 1462 | Location: NY | Registered: 19 September 2006
Originally posted by songstolove: OTH's ratings [Wed. Feb. 7th] were actually 2.85 million. So OTH's ratings are actually higher, plus OTH scored higher in the demographic as well. Final numbers can't be determined until after a week.
There's someone on this board, TravisYanan who gets the final numbers on the same day fast nationals come out. He posted One Tree Hill's final number, it was 2.73.
Posts: 258 | Location: New York | Registered: 28 November 2006
I am almost 100% certain that abc will not cancel MIT, but I think it will be heading back to Fri. nights next fall. It is a perfect show for that night, and it seems to have its 10-11 million faithful tree loggers. I wouldnt be surprised if abc puts MIT on the bench for a month in the spring to try out another new show in that most valuable time slot.
