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Survivor held up well against American Idol. I dont remember the last time I said this, but The CW did well last night. It was up against American Idol at 8pm and the repeat of Supernatural had 2.57 million viewers. I'd say last night was one of the best nights in awhile for The CW. and did anyone see this?
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quote: Originally posted by Obveeus: quote: Originally posted by Chimera:
but you're the one that insisted that it wouldn't increase at all this season, and you were proven wrong.
I never said that. You keep confusing me with other people or with an argument you wished you were having rather than the one you were actually having. Meanwhile, you most definitely did say that people that DVR'ed last year would watch ,ive this year. You used that as part of you claim as to why ratings would go up. And you also claimed that sameday timeshifting is not already counted in the ratings as a way to justify your math moving Lost from 14 million to 18 million. Own up to it. quote: I've been pretty consistent with what I say -- you, on the other hand, keep jumping around, never discussing the point I make but move on to a different point.
You just stated the exact opposite of what is truthfully occurring. Go back and reread the old thread again if you need help. Do not apply any of what other people said as being somthing I said. Do not avoid the things that you said. You claimed that timeshifters were going to boost the number and you used as your basis the incorrect belief that the timeshift numbers aren't largely already included in Marc's data.
Obveeus, I have explained this point to you about 50 times already -- I can't help it if you can't understand it. I don't know why you have this obsession with something I said four weeks ago, because when I point to you exactly what I said, verbatim, we start the whole discussion all over again. I am really tempted just to ignore you, because you just don't make any sense -- I didn't realize early on that your name was supposed to be the antithesis of your posts or your reasoning. |
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quote: Originally posted by lost_fan: This site seems to have the live+7 day ratings data for Lost and according to them it is seeing an 18% bump to the live numbers.
While this site references 3 million new vieweres, it given a final Live+7 viewer number of 17.7million. So, it added roughly 1.56million viewers over the numbers we get here each day. The other (about half) of the 'new' viewers were viewers that were already counted. |
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quote: Originally posted by mswood:
Ok, can does anyone remember the site that archives Marc's media week info? Any help would be appreciated.
TVTracker.com |
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quote: Originally posted by lost_fan: This site seems to have the live+7 day ratings data for Lost and according to them it is seeing an 18% bump to the live numbers.
Thanks for the link, lost_fan -- here's the statement: quote: New multi-network rating data that seems to be season averages shows a huge lift for Lost in DVR viewers. Lost had the third largest total DVR contribution beating out shows like House, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI.
Of the total views a week after air date (around 17.7 Million counting DVRs), 18% of the audience tivo'd the show. This works out to an average of around 3 million new viewers. That's not too shabby.
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Lipstick Jungle needs to be pulled now. It's in Bionic Woman/Journeyman level of true awfulness in ratings. Just end the thing. I could see something like Quarter Life fitting very well with Celebrity Apprentice. The same demos will be watching both shows. There's no hope for Eli Stone. It's not catching on at all. DFTL really didn't do well after Idol. 50% retention is not good, regardless of the competition. It won't be having that spot after Idol for long.
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quote: Originally posted by Obveeus: quote: Originally posted by mswood:
Ok, can does anyone remember the site that archives Marc's media week info? Any help would be appreciated.
TVTracker.com
thanks. |
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quote: Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
I dont remember the last time I said this, but The CW did well last night. It was up against American Idol at 8pm and the repeat of Supernatural had 2.57 million viewers. I'd say last night was one of the best nights in awhile for The CW.
Yep. CW was about on par with yesterday's (Wednesday's) numbers which were deemed to be a failure. I agree with you that it was a good night for CW, though. and did anyone see this?[/QUOTE] |
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quote: The first live American Idol results show opened the evening with a hefty 23.17 million viewers and an 8.4 rating/21 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m.
Is this number typical of an AI results show -- aren't they usually in the 26-28 million range? |
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quote: Originally posted by Chimera: quote: Originally posted by lost_fan: This site seems to have the live+7 day ratings data for Lost and according to them it is seeing an 18% bump to the live numbers.
Thanks for the link, lost_fan -- here's the statement: quote: New multi-network rating data that seems to be season averages shows a huge lift for Lost in DVR viewers. Lost had the third largest total DVR contribution beating out shows like House, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI.
Of the total views a week after air date (around 17.7 Million counting DVRs), 18% of the audience tivo'd the show. This works out to an average of around 3 million new viewers. That's not too shabby.
The thing is, if they got 3 million viewers over the live numbers, they didn't beat any of those shows, particularly when comparing premiere to premiere. Grey's, CSI, House, and Heroes all got over 3.4 million DVR viewers for their premieres. CSI averaged close to 3 mill while House and GA averaged well over 3 mill. Were they comparing the DVR number from Lost's premiere to the DVR numbers from the CSI and Grey's repeats that same week? |
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quote: Originally posted by Chimera:
I am really tempted just to ignore you, because you just don't make any sense
Feel free to ignore me while you deny not knowing how the timeshift numbers work and misrepresent what was said in that thread. |
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quote: Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleBlueBloodUndercover:
DFTL really didn't do well after Idol. 50% retention is not good, regardless of the competition. It won't be having that spot after Idol for long.
It his a season high in its ratings. What else would FOX put there? |
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FOX could put almost anything there and get a season high. Cops could be run there and it would have a season high. If Cops goes after Idol and gets a 50% retention rate, does it make it a winner? quote: Originally posted by Obveeus: quote: Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleBlueBloodUndercover:
DFTL really didn't do well after Idol. 50% retention is not good, regardless of the competition. It won't be having that spot after Idol for long.
It his a season high in its ratings. What else would FOX put there?
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quote: Originally posted by Holly:
Were they comparing the DVR number from Lost's premiere to the DVR numbers from the CSI and Grey's repeats that same week?
When they say that LOST came in 3rd best for DVR'ing, I am sure that they meant 3rd best for the week's worth of data they were looking at. |
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quote: Originally posted by Holly: quote: Originally posted by Chimera: quote: Originally posted by lost_fan: This site seems to have the live+7 day ratings data for Lost and according to them it is seeing an 18% bump to the live numbers.
Thanks for the link, lost_fan -- here's the statement: quote: New multi-network rating data that seems to be season averages shows a huge lift for Lost in DVR viewers. Lost had the third largest total DVR contribution beating out shows like House, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI.
Of the total views a week after air date (around 17.7 Million counting DVRs), 18% of the audience tivo'd the show. This works out to an average of around 3 million new viewers. That's not too shabby.
The thing is, if they got 3 million viewers over the live numbers, they didn't beat any of those shows, particularly when comparing premiere to premiere. Grey's, CSI, House, and Heroes all got over 3.4 million DVR viewers for their premieres. CSI averaged close to 3 mill while House and GA averaged well over 3 mill. Were they comparing the DVR number from Lost's premiere to the DVR numbers from the CSI and Grey's repeats that same week?
I don't know Holly. I haven't really seen it on other industry sites yet -- this one is from a lost forum. My guess is they were basing it on percentage increase and not raw viewer increase. CSI and Grey's premieres both had over 20 million, I believe, so if they added 3-4 million in DVR, they'd finish ahead in viewer increase, but lower in percentage increase. That's my guess at least. |
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