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Primetime: What Would You Do? (Viewers: #2, 7.52 million; A18-49: #2, 2.8/ 8). Worth noting for Primetime: What Would You Do? was the double-digit growth out of According to Jim.

I would give Primetime: WWYD an honorable mention Marc.

Rationale: it improved over the worst lead-in on ABC's schedule by 3-4 million viewers, by over a full point in the demo, built on its own prior week numbers by over a million viewers and over half a point in the demo, and beat other original fare by a substantial margin. Its numbers would also put it in the top 5 of ABC shows in both viewers and the demo for the week.

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I watched Primetime last night, and this once proud hard-news program has devolved into a salacious version of Candid Camera. Is Primetime the new Dateline?

I expect better from ABC News.

Well, I didn't watch all of it, but the portion I watched would hardly be called salacious, imo. It's more appropriately a psychological study of how people respond in different situations. The segment I watched was whether about people would help out a person that seemed obviously troubled, if not distressed. The incredible thing is that many did not, even though they had just finished a seminar on "good samaritans." This is hardly "To Catch A Predator" territory.

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1. It's very unfair for the contestant that sings first in AI. It's watched by 6 millions less viewers than the contestant that sings last

I think this is a good point. Last week many were surprised that asiah epperson was sent home and she happened to be first. i wonder if that means that sayesha is in trouble tonight. Usually, we think that the first and last slot is the best to have because people will remember it more, but since we know the ratings keep going up maybe first is not good to have.

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The only downside to Univision is that its ratings growth is limited to the population growth of the hispanic communities

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Univision and the others are going to get hit hard by the digital conversion next year, though. They have a much higher percentage of over-the-air viewers with older TV sets and no desire to contact the government for a coupon.

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On David A - he may have a good voice, but he has zero stage presence and I'm tired of the producers & the press ramming it down my throat that I'm supposed to love him. Yes, I know it's not his fault, but it puts me off. Besides that, a 17 yr old who behaves like a 12 year old is just not in any way appealing as a "star". I'd like to see him go home soon, but given his lead in the voting it looks like he's got it all locked up for the time being. Shame, because there's a great number of talented singers this year.

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Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link

Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

Which brings the same question i had yesterday: why we don't get Univision ratings here?

We are talking about AMERICAN TV NETWORKS here guys. I can accept the truth that the Spanish-speaking net Univision beats The CW. SPRING TIME is the WORST SEASON for The CW.

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On David A - he may have a good voice, but he has zero stage presence and I'm tired of the producers & the press ramming it down my throat that I'm supposed to love him. Yes, I know it's not his fault, but it puts me off. Besides that, a 17 yr old who behaves like a 12 year old is just not in any way appealing as a "star". I'd like to see him go home soon, but given his lead in the voting it looks like he's got it all locked up for the time being. Shame, because there's a great number of talented singers this year.

I think that each week he has been solid except for last night, where he was extremely weak and nervous. But I don't think the judges are "ramming him down our throat" that we should love him -- they obviously like him, but you are free to like whoever you like. I do think that he acts too young to ultimately win it all, but who knows...

But out of curiousity, how do you know that he leads in the voting? I didn't think that information was publicized.

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On David A - he may have a good voice, but he has zero stage presence and I'm tired of the producers & the press ramming it down my throat that I'm supposed to love him. Yes, I know it's not his fault, but it puts me off. Besides that, a 17 yr old who behaves like a 12 year old is just not in any way appealing as a "star". I'd like to see him go home soon, but given his lead in the voting it looks like he's got it all locked up for the time being. Shame, because there's a great number of talented singers this year.

I think that each week he has been solid except for last night, where he was extremely weak and nervous. But I don't think the judges are "ramming him down our throat" that we should love him -- they obviously like him, but you are free to like whoever you like. I do think that he acts too young to ultimately win it all, but who knows...

But out of curiousity, how do you know that he leads in the voting? I didn't think that information was publicized.

He is pushed down our throats. In the papers, on the TV, in the blogs he is presented as the big favourite. And that influences a lot of people. Just like in a political election.
Look at me, i never watched regularly AI before but all the publicity around this Archuleta kid made me watch the show and hope he fails somehow. I was extremely happy about last night.
I always hope overated singers, shows, movies, politicians, sporsment etc. fail. Of course that's a subjective opionion, what i find overrated you may find underrated.
I really feel sory for those other AI contestans, who many are way better but they're completely forgotten in the media coverage

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Primetime: What Would You Do? (Viewers: #2, 7.52 million; A18-49: #2, 2.8/ 8). Worth noting for Primetime: What Would You Do? was the double-digit growth out of According to Jim.

I would give Primetime: WWYD an honorable mention Marc.

Rationale: it improved over the worst lead-in on ABC's schedule by 3-4 million viewers, by over a full point in the demo, built on its own prior week numbers by over a million viewers and over half a point in the demo, and beat other original fare by a substantial margin. Its numbers would also put it in the top 5 of ABC shows in both viewers and the demo for the week.

Numbers aside for a moment.

I watched Primetime last night, and this once proud hard-news program has devolved into a salacious version of Candid Camera. Is Primetime the new Dateline?

I expect better from ABC News.

Well, I didn't watch all of it, but the portion I watched would hardly be called salacious, imo. It's more appropriately a psychological study of how people respond in different situations. The segment I watched was whether about people would help out a person that seemed obviously troubled, if not distressed. The incredible thing is that many did not, even though they had just finished a seminar on "good samaritans." This is hardly "To Catch A Predator" territory.

The psychologists observation was to add a veneer of relevance. Her finding? People are kind Samaritans if they have the time...people in a hurry look the other way.

Salacious came later in the hour when Primetime hired actors to play waiters who are trying to seduce one partner of a couple who are diners. One of the actresses even bared her midriff to ask the diner if that was where she should emblazon a tattoo.

As I said, salacious, cringeworthy Candid Camera reality schlock. This is ABC News creating its own version of Moment of Truth, with actors playing roles and unsuspecting citizens as subjects of the entertainment that Mr. Allen Funt popularized. And from what used to be a newsworthy newsmagazine.

It may gather good ratings. To some, it may have contained a moment of golly-gee entertainment, perhaps even finding a kernel of valuable information. But it is absolutely unworthy to be aired under the banner of ABC News.

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So now the question. We all know Jericho filmed two variations of the final episode which will air in two weeks. Do they show the ending with a final conclusion to wrap everything up. OR, do they show the episode that was intended to be shown if their was going to be a 3rd season?

If they want to milk more money out of the 'nut' crowd, they should air the season finale, then put the series finale on a DVD release shortly afterwards. If they want to be realistic about their renewal chances, they should just air the series finale version. If, by some miracle, they get renewed on Sci-Fi or some such cable outlet, they can always go the route of Sledge Hammer and pretend that the end never happened.

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Just wondering, what were the numbers for the NEW episode of According to Jim?

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I kinda feel bad for David. He is not the one who did all the praising of himself. He is 17 years old. I feel he is talented, but at the end of the day, do we really think a 17 year old is gonna win?

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So, the demise of AI was in fact greatly exagerrated. My guess is Kristy Lee Cook gets anohter week because of her looks, and that means either Ramiele or Syesha is going home.

As for over-rated, its not Jason Castro (who I doubt anyone thinks will actually make the top 3), it has to be David Archuleta. Im sorry, but there is nothing special about him. He doesnt have Michael John's looks, David Cook's singing ability, Brooke White's raw emotion, or Carly's total package.

He is arguably he most over-rated singer on this show since Fantasia Burrino, and if the judges are stupid enough to keep pimping him, he will be the latest disappointment who wins American Idol..

As for OTH, huge hit last night because of Idol. I thought it would hold up better because it had been doing pretty well when going up against just the boys the last few weeks.

However, yet again, it was a very solid episode, leading into what looks like it could be the best episode of the series next week..

As for Jericho, I am very disappointed that the fans got it back, and then stopped watching. While it was not as good last night as it had been, the writing this season is a lot better than last year, and its a shame people arent watching.

Its a real shame that its done in 2 episodes because I really think they could have had some good storylines the next few seasons if people watched the show..

You're absolutely right. I didn't watch past editions of AI but this year that Archuleta kid is annoyingly overrated. And all those praises are getting to him.
As for OTH, i'm very disappointed with the fact that AI hurted the show badly last night. And it's going to hurt it just as much next week, which is a shame

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2 million viewers?
We have two networks that struggle to do that with English speaking programming. I really doubt that the average person is going to know/ seek/find out that Univision has subtitles.

plus, the programming is bad (for lack of a better word) that those that did sample it, wouldn't stick around. The cultural gap is too wide.

What do you mean by "the programming is bad"?

The acting on the scripted shows are pretty bad. The variety shows look awful. Its almost like the quality is about 40 years behind.

Oh please, i could say the same thing about ai which is the most watched show. And talking about bad acting, have you seen some of the actors from GA lately. Or do you remember The OC?

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CSI: Guadalajara      

They could probably get away with CSI:Los Angeles or CSI: Denver and have it realistically be a cast filled with Spanish speakers.

As for the acting ability: looks just like the daytime soaps to me. I don't think it is about 'bad acting' so much as it is about cranking out 5 shows per week on a tiny budget. Some of those CSI shows (David Carruso) have huge budgets and only churn out one show every week, yet they still look like they are reading directly from cue cards.