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Originally posted by whatsonpop:
I kinda feel bad for David. He is not the one who did all the praising of himself. He is 17 years old. I feel he is talented, but at the end of the day, do we really think a 17 year old is gonna win?

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Originally posted by Holly:

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Originally posted by robert:
I don't understand why almost eveyone is against sunbtitles? I even watch englsh speaking shows/movies with subtitles on DVD.

Well, I'm sure there are a lot of reasons.

I suspect most Americans simply feel no need to watch shows with sub-titles. There is such an abundance of English programming and movies available, that they see no reason to seek out foreign language shows. Most Americans just aren't used to watching shows with sub-titles and have no motivation to start.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who multi-tasks when watching TV, and, like I said, it's harder to multi-task when you have to keep your eyes on the screen all the time.

You also loose a bit in reading sub-titles. It's harder to pick up vocal cues like inflection when you don't know the language or are focused on reading rather than listening.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
2 million viewers?
We have two networks that struggle to do that with English speaking programming. I really doubt that the average person is going to know/ seek/find out that Univision has subtitles.

plus, the programming is bad (for lack of a better word) that those that did sample it, wouldn't stick around. The cultural gap is too wide.

What do you mean by "the programming is bad"?

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by robert:
What do you mean by "the programming is bad"?

He means that Univision isn't airing procedurals.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link

Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

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At this point, Ryan and Simon have whipped up enough animosity for each other that it’s straddling the line between disgust and sexual tension. It’s just too “Moonlighting” for words. The minute they sleep with each other, the show will take a dive in the ratings.

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Originally posted by lopez:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link

Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

With those numbers, Univision is the real #5 network. Forget the CW.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
2 million viewers?
We have two networks that struggle to do that with English speaking programming. I really doubt that the average person is going to know/ seek/find out that Univision has subtitles.

plus, the programming is bad (for lack of a better word) that those that did sample it, wouldn't stick around. The cultural gap is too wide.

What do you mean by "the programming is bad"?

The acting on the scripted shows are pretty bad. The variety shows look awful. Its almost like the quality is about 40 years behind.

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Originally posted by College Basketball Fan:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by whatsonpop:
I kinda feel bad for David. He is not the one who did all the praising of himself. He is 17 years old. I feel he is talented, but at the end of the day, do we really think a 17 year old is gonna win?


Jordin Sparks was 17 and they never failed to remind us of that last season.

I agree with David A. being a overrated and with singing first being a major disadvantage and going last a major advantage. It's a great way for the producers to subtly manipulate how the voting will go. As stated in an earlier post, Sayesia (sp?) is last in voting at dialidol.com and David A. is the only one considered statistically safe.

With the large differentiation in viewership from the first half hour to the last, watch how the producers pick the order in which they sing week to week. It's not random. Jordin sang last several times last year and it was always on weeks she had a great song/performance. It becomes pretty obvious who they want to win every season.

They'll even change up how they do the eliminations to skew voting the following week.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
The only downside to Univision is that its ratings growth is limited to the population growth of the hispanic communities.

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Originally posted by lopez:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link

Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

With those numbers, Univision is the real #5 network. Forget the CW.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link

Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

Which brings the same question i had yesterday: why we don't get Univision ratings here?

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Originally posted by Josh_Kane:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Univision comes in second to FOX for the WEEK in 18-34 ratings.
Mediaweek link



Marc, it may be time to learn Spanish.

Which brings the same question i had yesterday: why we don't get Univision ratings here?

We are talking about AMERICAN TV NETWORKS here guys. I can accept the truth that the Spanish-speaking net Univision beats The CW. SPRING TIME is the WORST SEASON for The CW.

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Originally posted by Holly:
You also loose a bit in reading sub-titles. It's harder to pick up vocal cues like inflection when you don't know the language or are focused on reading rather than listening.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CSI: Guadalajara