I'm sorry I stuck with the second half of the show, but S3 of Alias had a great concept that ultimately wasn't followed through with. The first 11 episodes were very good, though not quite up to the standard S1 and S2 set.
I'm a bit too late to the ANTM CW advertising discussion, but I wanted to point out that MySpace is absolutely covered in ANTM ads. Those were all over the site in the past couple of weeks, and I think that's the most affective campaign they've had so far. College students, teenagers, bands-- many sign into their MySpace accounts multiple times a day, which gives the show huge exposure to a tremendous amount of people.
I'm sorry I stuck with the second half of the show, but S3 of Alias had a great concept that ultimately wasn't followed through with. The first 11 episodes were very good, though not quite up to the standard S1 and S2 set.
I felt like S3 was where it all went wrong, though I was enjoying some of it. By S4, it was all over, which is why S5 was such a headscratchingly stupid mistake. Abrams got S5 (which he didn't run) because Bad Robot was producing Lost. But with all other BR shows either canceled or about to be canceled, he's got precious little leverage now.
I can't believe they handed this guy the keys to the Enterprise.
Even with the absolute knowledge that S5 was the end, the writers still blew it, and the ratings sucked to hell. Too many mistakes had already been made, and the concept was just too tired.
So again, if ABC drags its feet much longer about announcing a definite endpoint for Lost, it's not going to matter anyhow.
Marc well Lost has stayed pretty consistent though in it's slot. It is turning in 24/Heroes numbers instead of it's phenom numbers. IMO Lost was never supposed to be a smash phenom but it became one. Also Marc you are wrong about Lost being a loser. Do you know who is happy, it is the FREAKING AFFILATES? The affilates want to do a jump for joy and party over Lost's numbers. Marc ABC has made affilates mad with most of their 10pm shows not doing great and that provides a bad lead-in for their local news. Lost is actually increasing the numbers for their local news bigtime. Also Lost is number 1 in demos. Marc no matter what HH's or Viewers mean nada, it all demos and all the time. Demos are the revenue in network's pockets. Also the last three weeks while Lost has been low, it has not declined anymore and staying consistent. It should also help CSI NY is about to go into repeats and Medium. So Lost is not a loser at all on 10pm. It just is no longer a phenom. With Lost's premise, it was never designed to be more then a five year show.
I think that a long as LOST doesn't do worse than Alias did, then it will stay on. Alias was never anything spectacular in ratings but it stood on for 5 or 6 seasons.
1)It was five seasons, and the fifth season was 17 episodes.
2)It wasn't as expensive to produce as Lost.
3)It only got a fifth season BECAUSE of Lost.
4)ABC really wishes it hadn't gone for a fifth season. And honestly, the fourth season was probably a mistake too.
I still think LOST will probably last just as long as Alias did as long as it doesn't do worse; but I will say, it would probably be better if next season was it's last. As for Alias, I never watched the show other then occaisionally catching it's repeats in syndication and I never really got into it.
Posts: 1543 | Location: NY | Registered: 17 November 2006
It had a good even flow. The first contestant got to the $175,000 question and the second is in the middle of the 4th question, I think.
The fun thing about this show is that it is not JUST about the questions and answers. It the squirmming of the contestant when they know they don't know the answer. Foxworhty does very well involving everyone (contestant, kids and viewers) into the show.
You get more laughs from this show than most current sitcoms.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Looks like 5th Grader is a winner It scored a 13.6 rating / 20 share to WIN the 9pm hour.
Please tell me you are not serious about the 5th Grader's ratings. How many questions did they even go through?
If they are moving 5th Grader to the 8:00 slot, then what are they going to air in the 9:00 slot? Considering that the tone of the show is so different compared to CSI and Grey's, would Fox consider keeping the show at 9 to compete against the King and Queen of ratings? The numbers do decent enough, however almost everything else is in repeat during the hour as well.
Posts: 768 | Location: New York City | Registered: 03 January 2007
I'm not sure the desired affect (more viewers) would be achieved. For every person willing to come back for 'the answers', there would probably be two people that quit watching because they 'are not going to invest any more time in a show that they know will end'.
Um---?
What is your basis for this assumption?
A show dropping in the ratings after a cancellation announcement is nothing new. People don't want to 'waste time' being invested in a show that won't continue. You claim people will rush back to watch the last bit of LOST. I am saying that people are more likely to rush to watch some other show in that timeslot that will keep going rather than 'abandoning them'. After all, they don't want to fall behind everyone else. When LOST is gone, everyone else will be talking about whatever other show is on some other station against it. The 'devoted LOST fan' will now be behind the curve to everyone else.
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Plus there's the problem of people wanting answers, but the writers having to hold them in reserve for the finale, which you say people never want to happen.
The fact that the writers have nothing to offer is a shortcoming of the writers. They thought up a great beginning and end without having any idea what to do with the middle. So, people will tune in for the finale, but more and more will tune out from the pointless, go nowhere middle episodes.
Originally posted by JONNYSBRO: Marc well Lost has stayed pretty consistent though in it's slot. It is turning in 24/Heroes numbers instead of it's phenom numbers. IMO Lost was never supposed to be a smash phenom but it became one. Also Marc you are wrong about Lost being a loser. Do you know who is happy, it is the FREAKING AFFILATES? The affilates want to do a jump for joy and party over Lost's numbers. Marc ABC has made affilates mad with most of their 10pm shows not doing great and that provides a bad lead-in for their local news. Lost is actually increasing the numbers for their local news bigtime. Also Lost is number 1 in demos. Marc no matter what HH's or Viewers mean nada, it all demos and all the time. Demos are the revenue in network's pockets. Also the last three weeks while Lost has been low, it has not declined anymore and staying consistent. It should also help CSI NY is about to go into repeats and Medium. So Lost is not a loser at all on 10pm. It just is no longer a phenom. With Lost's premise, it was never designed to be more then a five year show.
Posts: 1543 | Location: NY | Registered: 17 November 2006
The fact that the writers have nothing to offer is a shortcoming of the writers. They thought up a great beginning and end without having any idea what to do with the middle. So, people will tune in for the finale, but more and more will tune out from the pointless, go nowhere middle episodes.
I agree. And the show makes it so obvious that the writers are kind of struggling to keep the show going. Although, I think ABC will keep it for 2 more seasons, I think it would better if they let it end next season.
Posts: 1543 | Location: NY | Registered: 17 November 2006
A show dropping in the ratings after a cancellation announcement is nothing new.
Dude, that's not what we're talking about here. ABC guaranteeing one or two seasons to finish up the story of a given show is not a CANCELLATION--at least not if they do it while the show is still getting halfway decent 18-49 ratings.
People who drift away from a serialized program with a narrative that seems hopelessly stuck in place DO frequently come back when they learn the story is ending. Geez, people even came back in huge #'s for the end of Star Trek: Voyager.
Yes, if ABC canceled Lost DURING a given season, with the resultant guarantee that the finale would be hastily contrived, they could lose more viewers.
But it's just crazy to say that would be the reaction to ABC saying "Enough with the stalling, the story ends on this date, because Lost isn't just another television show."
Which it is, of course, but people used to think of it as being something more.
People are leaving NOW, and they'll go on leaving, until such time as ABC persuades them they aren't just being strung along to maximize profits, and to hell with the story.
To announce a definite end to the show would not lower the ratings. To fail to do so guarantees the ratings will continue to fall.
