I wonder on the topic of Idol Gives Back next Wednesday if starting at 7:30 instead of 8 will help it get bigger ratings numbers than last year? I mean 2 1/2 hours of AI next Wednesday seems like alot. Even for a fan of the show
It's starting before prime time? That's weird. Would those numbers factor into the ratings? How does that work?
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Originally posted by tvratingsjunkie: I wonder on the topic of Idol Gives Back next Wednesday if starting at 7:30 instead of 8 will help it get bigger ratings numbers than last year? I mean 2 1/2 hours of AI next Wednesday seems like alot. Even for a fan of the show
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If Fox wanted to start Idol a half-hour early, they may have to confer with affiliates - they own the "Prime Access" slot.
BTW, the nets starting programming at 7:30/6:30 Central was commonplace before September 1971, when the Prime Access rule kicked in, and cut the nets' prime-time programming to three hours a night.
Originally posted by whatsonpop: It's starting before prime time? That's weird. Would those numbers factor into the ratings? How does that work?
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Originally posted by tvratingsjunkie: I wonder on the topic of Idol Gives Back next Wednesday if starting at 7:30 instead of 8 will help it get bigger ratings numbers than last year? I mean 2 1/2 hours of AI next Wednesday seems like alot. Even for a fan of the show
And more importantly, when are they going to show Jeopardy?
(Is Jeopardy even on any FOX affiliates?)
Edited, because I can't spell.
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Sadly, Men in Trees is a goner. A victim of bad scheduling.
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Originally posted by Holly: Was Supernanny a repeat again? Because if not, it took a bit of a hit. I really can't see Men in Trees coming back next year.
Ratings for CM and CSI: NY aren't impressive, but CSI: NY is just a little under it's season average and right around where it was last year at this time. CM took a bigger hit compared to it's season ratings, but up against Idol, that's not a surprise.
It will be interesting to see what happens when both CSI: NY and L&O are showing originals.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Sadly, Men in Trees is a goner. A victim of bad scheduling.
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Originally posted by Holly: Was Supernanny a repeat again? Because if not, it took a bit of a hit. I really can't see Men in Trees coming back next year.
Ratings for CM and CSI: NY aren't impressive, but CSI: NY is just a little under it's season average and right around where it was last year at this time. CM took a bigger hit compared to it's season ratings, but up against Idol, that's not a surprise.
It will be interesting to see what happens when both CSI: NY and L&O are showing originals.
I don't think a show after Grey's Anatomy is a bad scheduling.
Originally posted by Holly: Do advertisers actually believe that the Summer 2009 schedule won't change dramatically by the time we get to 2009?
I think the release of the 2009 Summer schedule is part of NBC's smoke and mirrors plan to define themselves as a 'industry leader'. The advertisers won't believe that the schedule is set in stone, but if they can be tricked into believing that NBC is thinking at all, then NBC has a better shot of lifting their wallets.
Anyone who reads English and follows TV in the past 4 years knows not to believe NBC can turn things around. They will end up in fourth again next year.
the return of original episodes of Criminal Minds (Viewers: #2, 12.81 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9), which held up well opposite American Idol, and the aforementioned CSI: NY (Viewers: #1, 12.84 million; A18-49: #1, 3.6/10).
Lower than I was expecting. I thought at least 14 million for each and thet 15 Million was very possible.
We'll se how the rest of the spring goes, but 13 million is still pretty good, in this day & age.
My guess is that things won't go up. The first episodes back are usually one of the higher rated eps. See, I told you this night was in trouble. No, actually things are still fine, but these are not the hits CBS would like you to believe they are.
the return of original episodes of Criminal Minds (Viewers: #2, 12.81 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9), which held up well opposite American Idol, and the aforementioned CSI: NY (Viewers: #1, 12.84 million; A18-49: #1, 3.6/10).
Lower than I was expecting. I thought at least 14 million for each and thet 15 Million was very possible.
We'll se how the rest of the spring goes, but 13 million is still pretty good, in this day & age.
My guess is that things won't go up. The first episodes back are usually one of the higher rated eps. See, I told you this night was in trouble. No, actually things are still fine, but these are not the hits CBS would like you to believe they are.
Well, then I'll say it, :-) "This night is in trouble."
No it's not gonna free-fall, but seriously, it's so obvious that all these procedurals are all declining. Everyone wants to blame this reason or that reason for Cold Case and now Criminal Minds and CSI:NY for underperforming.
Big Brother, NCAA, blah blah, I have to respectfully disagree.
I'll tell you why they're underperforming: CBS is aging. Procedurals are aging. And most importantly they have TOO MANY of them. Goodness gracious, look at their schedule.
Cold Case Shark CSI CSI:Miami CSI:NY NCIS Criminal Minds Without A Trace Numb3rs even 48 Hrs Mystery and The Unit
All these shows appeal to basically the same viewer. And take into account that other networks have shows similar to these as well.
It's TOO MUCH.
I keep saying, CBS had better get smart and sacrifice a couple or three of these weaker shows, and get some variety in their schedule or they will crumble in a couple seasons.
The catch 22 is, none of their shows are bad enough to replace yet (give it a season or 2 at the most) and then EVERYTHING will have gone sour (at the same time... yikes!).
They'd better have a lot of good new shows come fall 2009 or else.
Originally posted by the128boy: I keep saying, CBS had better get smart and sacrifice a couple or three of these weaker shows, and get some variety in their schedule or they will crumble in a couple seasons.
The catch 22 is, none of their shows are bad enough to replace yet (give it a season or 2 at the most) and then EVERYTHING will have gone sour (at the same time... yikes!).
They'd better have a lot of good new shows come fall 2009 or else.
They have had more success in new Comedies than new Dramas.
Only Shark and Moonlight have done decent in the Drama Department, but Old Christine, Rules..., BBT and HIMYM have done well for them the past 3 seasons.
Originally posted by whatsonpop: It's starting before prime time? That's weird. Would those numbers factor into the ratings? How does that work?
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Originally posted by tvratingsjunkie: I wonder on the topic of Idol Gives Back next Wednesday if starting at 7:30 instead of 8 will help it get bigger ratings numbers than last year? I mean 2 1/2 hours of AI next Wednesday seems like alot. Even for a fan of the show
And more improtantly, when are they going to show Jeopardy?
(Is Jeopardy even on any FOX affiliates?)
Excuse me, but you can't preempt King of the Hill reruns. That's ridiculous.
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the return of original episodes of Criminal Minds (Viewers: #2, 12.81 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9), which held up well opposite American Idol, and the aforementioned CSI: NY (Viewers: #1, 12.84 million; A18-49: #1, 3.6/10).
Lower than I was expecting. I thought at least 14 million for each and thet 15 Million was very possible.
We'll se how the rest of the spring goes, but 13 million is still pretty good, in this day & age.
My guess is that things won't go up. The first episodes back are usually one of the higher rated eps. See, I told you this night was in trouble. No, actually things are still fine, but these are not the hits CBS would like you to believe they are.
Well, then I'll say it, :-) "This night is in trouble."
No it's not gonna free-fall, but seriously, it's so obvious that all these procedurals are all declining. Everyone wants to blame this reason or that reason for Cold Case and now Criminal Minds and CSI:NY for underperforming.
Big Brother, NCAA, blah blah, I have to respectfully disagree.
I'll tell you why they're underperforming: CBS is aging. Procedurals are aging. And most importantly they have TOO MANY of them. Goodness gracious, look at their schedule.
Cold Case Shark CSI CSI:Miami CSI:NY NCIS Criminal Minds Without A Trace Numb3rs even 48 Hrs Mystery and The Unit
All these shows appeal to basically the same viewer. And take into account that other networks have shows similar to these as well.
It's TOO MUCH.
I keep saying, CBS had better get smart and sacrifice a couple or three of these weaker shows, and get some variety in their schedule or they will crumble in a couple seasons.
The catch 22 is, none of their shows are bad enough to replace yet (give it a season or 2 at the most) and then EVERYTHING will have gone sour (at the same time... yikes!).
They'd better have a lot of good new shows come fall 2009 or else.
In the eye's defense, they have tried diversity this year, but the lineup was wrong in many ways and the audience for the procedurals still doesn't like much else besides procedurals. I do agree the lineup looks ancient though and as much as it may not translate into viewers, buzz is something they completely lack on most nights (especially Tuesday, Wednesday, and Sundays). Adding at least another hour of comedies is the right direction. They can't seem to launch the hit serialized show so focus on other ways of finding the young audience: laughs, which are far and few between in today's TV world. As much as I dislike the show and as much as it will never make any real form of money for them, Moonlight will be kept for this reason as well, even if it means dragging down Fridays even more. I honestly think Cold Case only has a season or two left max and CSI:NY will probably not see season 10, unless an NBC-like collapse happens (and it could). Of course, just a few more chimp moves and ABC could collapse too.
