Originally posted by robert: Is this a joke? SCC is a disaster compared to PB from the ratings point of view. SCC has so much potential that it has lost almost half of the audince in 6 weeks
You mean, SCC would be a smashing success if it had started the season below 8m viewers and 3.3 demo like PB, and never had performed above those levels?
Week Viewers Demo
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09/17/07 7.51 M 3.3
09/24/07 7.41 M 3.1
10/01/07 7.29 M 3.1
10/08/07 7.35 M 3.1
10/22/07 7.44 M 3.0
11/05/07(8pm) 7.69 M 3.3
11/05/07(9pm) 8.00 M 3.4
11/12/07 7.18 M 3.1
01/14/08 7.87 M 3.3
01/21/08 7.83 M 3.1
02/04/08 7.43 M 2.9
02/11/08 7.84 M 3.3
02/18/08 7.37 M 3.1
And it keeps falling from year so year.
SCC ratings of course couldn't stay near its football-fueled premiere, but it is hard to know what would have happened without the strike. For the first time this week, numbers are (slightly) up.
Not to mention, PB has become really bad. Nearly unwatchable compared to its first season. SCC was getting better those last episodes.
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Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton: People also keep forgetting that 24 has been dropping year to year. Last season it was doing 10 million range... There's no reason to believe it may have dipped further had it returned this season.
While 24 did drop from season 2 to season 3 and from 5 to 6, it has generally been on an uptrend. Season 6 averaged better than seasons 1-4.
1--8.6 million 2--11.73 3--10.30 4--11.90 5--13.78 6--13.0
TSCC didn't perform anywhere near where Fox was hoping, but depending on their development slate, it could still be worth the renewal. I know they have "The Fringe," anybody know what else they are planning?
Confirmed: Fringe Dollhouse Some procedural called The FBI Some drama about several families living in the same building during different time periods supposedly linked in a supernatural way Some drama about powerful business women (along the lines of Devil Meets Prada from the description)
There could be more because some places are still reporting that the Prison Break with women spin off is still an option. Maybe that is one of a several they are considering.
Yeah, FOX looks very good for next fall. At least some of those new series have decent chances of performing very well.
Ahh, do we really need another woman's busines series. Isn't the failure of CASHMERE MAFIA and LIPSTICK JUNGLE enough...me I say bring on PRISON BREAK: CHERRY HILL at the woman's prison.
Not to mention, PB has become really bad. Nearly unwatchable compared to its first season. SCC was getting better those last episodes.
I don't agree here with PB being unwatchable. It's a highly entertaining and addictive show that keeps you wondering what is going to happen next. Nobody can do a cliffhanger before a commerical like PRISON BREAK. I don't think they were creatively dead. Inventing SONA was a great way to have a Prison in the series again but not be a carbon copy of FOX RIVER.
Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton: People also keep forgetting that 24 has been dropping year to year. Last season it was doing 10 million range... There's no reason to believe it may have dipped further had it returned this season.
While 24 did drop from season 2 to season 3 and from 5 to 6, it has generally been on an uptrend. Season 6 averaged better than seasons 1-4.
1--8.6 million 2--11.73 3--10.30 4--11.90 5--13.78 6--13.0
Well, those 24 stats would suggest that T:TSCC should be given another chance, since its average ratings (even when not including the playoff inflated pilot) for its first season are pretty much the same as 24's, and look how that prospered once it was given a fair chance.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: -Total Viewers: ABC: 11.21 million -Adults 18-49: ABC: 3.1 rating/8 share ---------- -Yesterday’s Winners: 20/20: The Royal Family (ABC) ---------- -Ratings Breakdown: A special edition of 20/20 focusing on the Royal Family led ABC to Monday victory, with a first-place finish in total viewers and a tie with Fox among adults 18-49. Anchored by Barbara Walters, the two-hour edition of 20/20 averaged a solid 14.16 million viewers and a 3.7 rating/10 share among adults 18-49 from 8-10 p.m., building in each half hour as follows:
20/20: The Royal Family (ABC) 8:00 p.m. Viewers: 14.20 million (#1), A18-49: 3.4/10 (#1) 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 14.75 million (#1), A18-49: 3.8/10 (#1) 9:00 p.m. Viewers: 14.22 million (#1), A18-49: 3.9/ 9 (#1) 9:30 p.m. Viewers: 13.46 million (#1), A18-49: 3.8/ 9 (#1)
Given the ratings last night, ABC would be wise to consider running the full BBC six-hour miniseries "Monarchy: The Royal Family at Work" which is the source material from which 20/20 borrowed extensive footage from.
The BBC miniseries drew sizeable ratings in Great Britain and Canada. Perhaps ABC could run it this summer?
Originally posted by robert: Is this a joke? SCC is a disaster compared to PB from the ratings point of view. SCC has so much potential that it has lost almost half of the audince in 6 weeks
You mean, SCC would be a smashing success if it had started the season below 8m viewers and 3.3 demo like PB, and never had performed above those levels?
Week Viewers Demo
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09/17/07 7.51 M 3.3
09/24/07 7.41 M 3.1
10/01/07 7.29 M 3.1
10/08/07 7.35 M 3.1
10/22/07 7.44 M 3.0
11/05/07(8pm) 7.69 M 3.3
11/05/07(9pm) 8.00 M 3.4
11/12/07 7.18 M 3.1
01/14/08 7.87 M 3.3
01/21/08 7.83 M 3.1
02/04/08 7.43 M 2.9
02/11/08 7.84 M 3.3
02/18/08 7.37 M 3.1
And it keeps falling from year so year.
SCC ratings of course couldn't stay near its football-fueled premiere, but it is hard to know what would have happened without the strike. For the first time this week, numbers are (slightly) up.
Not to mention, PB has become really bad. Nearly unwatchable compared to its first season. SCC was getting better those last episodes.
Thank you for proving my point. PB is doing better in demos than SCC although PB in its third season and SCC was pushed like no other show by FOX
And PB it's still one of the best dramas currently in TV. Which is not much considering the quality of the shows is not good on TV right now but it's more than enough for me
Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton: People also keep forgetting that 24 has been dropping year to year. Last season it was doing 10 million range... There's no reason to believe it may have dipped further had it returned this season.
While 24 did drop from season 2 to season 3 and from 5 to 6, it has generally been on an uptrend. Season 6 averaged better than seasons 1-4.
1--8.6 million 2--11.73 3--10.30 4--11.90 5--13.78 6--13.0
Well, those 24 stats would suggest that T:TSCC should be given another chance, since its average ratings (even when not including the playoff inflated pilot) for its first season are pretty much the same as 24's, and look how that prospered once it was given a fair chance.
I think the question on TSCC is whether there is room. With two new sci-fi shows set for next year and all the other male-skewing dramas, they might decide they can do better than TSCC by introducing new shows.
Not to mention, PB has become really bad. Nearly unwatchable compared to its first season. SCC was getting better those last episodes.
I don't agree here with PB being unwatchable. It's a highly entertaining and addictive show that keeps you wondering what is going to happen next. Nobody can do a cliffhanger before a commerical like PRISON BREAK. I don't think they were creatively dead. Inventing SONA was a great way to have a Prison in the series again but not be a carbon copy of FOX RIVER.
At least they try to create cliffhangers (some work others don't. Most of the shows on TV these days don't try to do that anymore. Which is bad cause i always remember that back in the 80s and 90s many shows ended their episodes with cliffhangers.
Well, I wouldn't buy the uptrend. The only reason for that is season 5 and 6 didn't air any repeats unlike the other seasons. 24 is one of my favorite shows, but it's numbers would be lower than the other seasons, especially season 6 if it aired reruns.
SCC deserves another chance and I think it has a shot if brought back in the fall. With news of the new movie coming out, maybe the hype will help out.
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Originally posted by Holly:
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Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton: People also keep forgetting that 24 has been dropping year to year. Last season it was doing 10 million range... There's no reason to believe it may have dipped further had it returned this season.
While 24 did drop from season 2 to season 3 and from 5 to 6, it has generally been on an uptrend. Season 6 averaged better than seasons 1-4.
1--8.6 million 2--11.73 3--10.30 4--11.90 5--13.78 6--13.0
Originally posted by Holly: I think the question on TSCC is whether there is room. With two new sci-fi shows set for next year and all the other male-skewing dramas, they might decide they can do better than TSCC by introducing new shows.
You might be right. If FOX does decide not to renew Terminator:SCC, this would be the perfect kind of show to port over to CW. They needs something 'big budget' that can 'put them on the map'. Warner Bros. would be wise to give the show a shot on CW to belp out their own network interests.
Originally posted by Marc Berman: -Total Viewers: ABC: 11.21 million -Adults 18-49: ABC: 3.1 rating/8 share ---------- -Yesterday’s Winners: 20/20: The Royal Family (ABC) ---------- -Ratings Breakdown: A special edition of 20/20 focusing on the Royal Family led ABC to Monday victory, with a first-place finish in total viewers and a tie with Fox among adults 18-49. Anchored by Barbara Walters, the two-hour edition of 20/20 averaged a solid 14.16 million viewers and a 3.7 rating/10 share among adults 18-49 from 8-10 p.m., building in each half hour as follows:
20/20: The Royal Family (ABC) 8:00 p.m. Viewers: 14.20 million (#1), A18-49: 3.4/10 (#1) 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 14.75 million (#1), A18-49: 3.8/10 (#1) 9:00 p.m. Viewers: 14.22 million (#1), A18-49: 3.9/ 9 (#1) 9:30 p.m. Viewers: 13.46 million (#1), A18-49: 3.8/ 9 (#1)
Given the ratings last night, ABC would be wise to consider running the full BBC six-hour miniseries "Monarchy: The Royal Family at Work" which is the source material from which 20/20 borrowed extensive footage from.
The BBC miniseries drew sizeable ratings in Great Britain and Canada. Perhaps ABC could run it this summer?
