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That's so true about 30 Rock! Big Grin
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Also in the 9 p.m. hour were just renewed NBC sitcoms The Office (Viewers: #3, 8.35 million; A18-49: #3, 4.3/10) and 30 Rock (Viewers: #3, 6.59 million; A18-49: #3, 3.2/ 7), which were both below average


Actually, The Office was above average--honestly, they have been getting the show back into decent shape lately. Though I must confess, any episode that heavily features Rainn Wilson is going to make me laugh--"You-must-learn-your rulesssss----or you'll-be-eaten--in-your-sleep!" Big Grin

30 Rock could not have a more compatible lead-in, or more hype, and it still loses almost two million viewers, and slightly over a full percentage point in the demo. NBC can keep it on for another decade, but it'll never catch on.

As somebody blogging the Golden Globes said "It's official--30 Rock now has more awards than it has viewers."

Wink


 
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The sad thing is that it's true. Proving that critical acclaim doesn't always mean mass appeal.

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Originally posted by pisher:

As somebody blogging the Golden Globes said "It's official--30 Rock now has more awards than it has viewers."

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I haven't watched GA in a few seasons. However, a lot of people on the internet are complaining about the storylines and apparently they are driving away viewers.

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GA is sinking like a rock it wont be long before it is on par with Practice at this rate. ABC will have 2 shows worthy of cancellation on their hands.

How could ABC let GA get so bad?


 
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30 Rock may have won at the Globes, but it's a loser, and should be in the loser's section.

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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
That's so true about 30 Rock! Big Grin
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Originally posted by pisher:
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Also in the 9 p.m. hour were just renewed NBC sitcoms The Office (Viewers: #3, 8.35 million; A18-49: #3, 4.3/10) and 30 Rock (Viewers: #3, 6.59 million; A18-49: #3, 3.2/ 7), which were both below average


Actually, The Office was above average--honestly, they have been getting the show back into decent shape lately. Though I must confess, any episode that heavily features Rainn Wilson is going to make me laugh--"You-must-learn-your rulesssss----or you'll-be-eaten--in-your-sleep!" Big Grin

30 Rock could not have a more compatible lead-in, or more hype, and it still loses almost two million viewers, and slightly over a full percentage point in the demo. NBC can keep it on for another decade, but it'll never catch on.

As somebody blogging the Golden Globes said "It's official--30 Rock now has more awards than it has viewers."

Wink
 
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Eeker about Supernatural and very disappointing. Really want to see this series stick around another season and it's not looking encouraging for that to happen YIKES !


I don't think you have anything to worry about: it's the CW. It's not as if they have hit shows. Even Supernatural's lackluster performance tonight is still better than their best Friday and Sunday night performances this season.
 
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Bush messed up everything last night, well adios you horrible president!

Grissom was one of television's greatest all-time characters as Peterson gave us a memorable character who was devoted to his work. Very geniously developed character on the show of the decade and now we can look forward to Fishburne's Langston character to lead this classic into the next decade.

America's Most Watched Network got its heaviest rerun numbers in a long time out of the CSI: rerun. The 24 million viewers probably got over 25 million at some point. I was expecting a little higher, but 9pm on Thursdays is a tough timeslot to get all those viewers who watched CSI: in the past. CSI: will probably stil be around 10 years from now still among TV's highest rated shows. 11th Hour had decent retention, but its not the answer CBS needed. CBS should launch The Streets of San Francisco out of CSI: next year.

For CBS:
9:00 22.317, 5.8/14, 3.5/9
9:30 23.936, 6.6/15, 4.0/10
10:00 18.507, 5.1/13, 3.2/9
10:30 12.520, 3.3/9, 2.1/6

ABC is the were not thinking with our heads anymore network. WOW! this network just plain sucks right now. Its barely watchable on some nights during the week. GA has fallen into some type of gutter. The medical drama is starting to feel like a fad. I think its time to accept this show as just a solid performer and not a hit anymore. Private Practice numbers are up, but GA has died on them to have any chance of getting those viewers. PP can still compete for the #1 ABC show at 10pm. Scrubs has no replay value so ABC shouldn't even bring it back next year.

ABC needs to go back to the drawing board and start with a heavy pilot season of real type scripted shows.

NBC future looks bright, but Thursdays right now just plain old sucks. Not one hit on this night and with ER ending, its going to get even uglier. I'm not even going to talk about the overrated comedies b/c its not worth my time right now. So let me look to the future where NBC just made some announcements this week.

NBC should shape their network around a new approach with John Well's new potential cop hit Southland, which lands on Thursday April 9, 2009 in ER's timeslot (one week after ER shuts off the lights). Get 2 more simple watchable procedurals and some watchable multi-cam comedies. Also shape it around Kings if it succeeds when it premieres on Sunday March 15, 2009. The Amy Poehler Show sounds promising, but I'm not sure if its a multi-cam or single-cam. Better be a multi-cam, NBC. Same thing goes for Hilary Duff's new comedy. The Partridge Family comedy is shaky with me since NBC hasn't hit on their remakes after the first season.

For NBC:
10:00 6.580, 2.7/7, 2.1/6
10:30 7.388, 2.8/7, 1.9/6

The CW still exists?

Did FOX even air last night? Just kidding I know they did, but FOX would've been better off just going on ahead and airing Bones, but maybe they didn't want to go head to head with CSI: and I don't blame them. I really want to see Bones numbers next week as it should easily be #1 in its timeslot.

I think for the first time Survivor might be falling when it starts facing Bones on a regular basis head to head as Survivor's numbers are really close to Bones.

The CW finally has a night worth talking about. Smallville and Supernatural seem to be the only two scripted shows working on that failure of a network. That 1.8 in the demo for SV is the highest I've seen in some time on that network. Look for Jared of SN on the new Friday the 13th release in about another month in theaters.

On the cable side, I missed Patrick Swayze's new Chicago drama on A&E, but I'm hearing some good things about it. Hopefully did just as well as The Cleaner did in the ratings over the summertime.

The one show that really caught my attention last night even though I watched it last year was America's Best Dance Crew on MTV. This is an amazing show with some sick athletic kids performing original dance numbers.

This is the best reality competition on TV and sometime I think FOX should launch another reality competition out of Idol and see how it performs.

Again Why Does The CW Still Exists?
 
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The sad thing is that it's true. Proving that critical acclaim doesn't always mean mass appeal.


Nor does it prove that the acclaim is deserved--I think Fey just charms the pants off everybody. I mean, not literally. Wink

I like her personally, and I wish her well, but the show just isn't any damn good.
 
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Bush messed up everything last night, well adios you horrible president!


Somebody at a political forum had this response to Dubya's final program interruption last night--

Watching this speech reminds me of when I listened to my high school principal speak for the first time after I graduated. He still sounded crazy but no longer scared me.

The prospect of having to clean up his messes is still pretty scary, though.

The wrong is ended. But the malady lingers on. Frowner
 
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As a sample these:

09/25/08 18.47 M
11/20/08 15.91 M
01/08/09 13.87 M
01/15/09 12.95 M

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what data makes you draw this conclusion?
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GA is sinking like a rock it wont be long before it is on par with Practice at this rate. ABC will have 2 shows worthy of cancellation on their hands.

How could ABC let GA get so bad?
 
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"30 Rock" is respectable. It's doing close to what it always does, and the demo is perfectly admirable in the current landscape. And before you jump down my throat about the demo/viewer loss from "The Office," yes I understand the network has to aim for fuller retention. Even so, Liz Lemon and company are doing just fine.

ABC has killed "Grey's Anatomy." Heigl's character having an affair with a ghost is just plain preposterous (apologies to the cross-plane fornicators who may read thi). To have her do so while simultaneously carrying on a relationship with a guy whose last girlfriend went nuts is redundant. There you have it, ABC: weird and redundant. Too bad, because unlike a lot of people, I wanted "Private Practice" to have a shot!
 
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My guess is that GA will end in 2011, while DH might get two extra season till 2013
 
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I hardly think you can draw any conclusions comparing the season premiere to last nite's episode that went up against Grissom's departure from CSI.
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Originally posted by KSO:
As a sample these:

09/25/08 18.47 M
11/20/08 15.91 M
01/08/09 13.87 M
01/15/09 12.95 M

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Originally posted by vlis:
what data makes you draw this conclusion?
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GA is sinking like a rock it wont be long before it is on par with Practice at this rate. ABC will have 2 shows worthy of cancellation on their hands.

How could ABC let GA get so bad?
 
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30 Rock" is respectable. It's doing close to what it always does, and the demo is perfectly admirable in the current landscape. And before you jump down my throat about the demo/viewer loss from "The Office," yes I understand the network has to aim for fuller retention. Even so, Liz Lemon and company are doing just fine.


Not jumping, just disagreeing. In the full course of time, we shall see (that you were wrong).

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ABC set themselves on the wrong path by bringing back their dramas late. Add to it the fact that they only debuted LOM and OK, and it was a receipe for disaster.

I completely agree that ABC needs an amazing Fall of 2009. They have to find shows that can find an audience fast. The problem is right now they are relying on three scripted shows Lost, DH, and GA that are getting older and declining. These three shows are diminished platforms and ABC has to find new platforms to launch their shows.

As for NBC's Duff comedy, someone posted that it was single cam. So my guess is that it is single cam.

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Originally posted by BlueLick:

ABC needs to go back to the drawing board and start with a heavy pilot season of real type scripted shows.

Better be a multi-cam, NBC. Same thing goes for Hilary Duff's new comedy.


 
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